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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: airspro on November 03, 2002, 08:15:22 AM
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swithch too rooks :D :D :D
I have seen the LIGHT and it's rook ;)
So all these evil BISHUPS please to see the light and SAVE yourselves while you still have time .
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Once a long time ago my old squad (air_squadron ) came to FA 2.0 and we flew the Brit typhoon and really thought we were something great because we could kick the German sides bellybutton . Then we rellised that all we were doing was ganging up on the weakest country .
We then switched sides and learned from our mistakes .
Please to see the light :)
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spro
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Pretty quite here , wonder , I really wonder about this .
Another thread on this .
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=644534#post644534
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I recently made a tour of all three countries, and ended up deciding to fly Bishop. I like the sense of humor and the players.
Flying as a rook I had to deal with two obnoxious boneheads (one on vox). This one guy kept berating me to take my PT away from the carrier as it was blocking his shots (subsequently he managed to get the carrier sunk).
Rooks never ran a mission in the 2 1/2 days I flew there. As a Bishop I can count on 2 - 3 per hour at peak times (many thanks to Fester, Rocstar and others).
Perhaps these issues have driven away other Rook players as well.
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We don't need no stinkin' missuns! :D
(btw...thks TheFatz for your hard work )
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Originally posted by smash
I recently made a tour of all three countries, and ended up deciding to fly Bishop. I like the sense of humor and the players.
Flying as a rook I had to deal with two obnoxious boneheads (one on vox). This one guy kept berating me to take my PT away from the carrier as it was blocking his shots (subsequently he managed to get the carrier sunk).
Rooks never ran a mission in the 2 1/2 days I flew there. As a Bishop I can count on 2 - 3 per hour at peak times (many thanks to Fester, Rocstar and others).
Perhaps these issues have driven away other Rook players as well.
Well Smash, I was that “bonehead”. I recall asking the PT drivers to kindly not position themselves between incoming torpedo bombers and the defensive guns of the fleet. PT’s cannot defend a TG. What they can and often do manage to do is detonate proximity fuzes of the primary defensive guns, which are the 5” batteries. Time and time again, Ju 88s where able to drop torpedos unmolested because our shells detonated over the PTs. After repeatedly asking the PT drivers to move further out or to the rear, without any indication that they would do so, I became a bit short tempered. I’m sorry if I offended you. I was just trying to protect the ship. After all, in that instance we needed the CV platform operational. There were about a dozen other players depending on the CV to rearm and refuel. Getting it sunk because some people won’t move their PTs will not endear you to them one bit. Sure, you pay your money so you figure you can do whatever you want. However, when your fun infringes on the enjoyment of others, the line is crossed and squawking will be heard.
Personally, I have no use for PTs. I can see no purpose to them beyond being a great source of entertainment for those who kill them. Last week, I killed 49 PTs in the span of 5 minutes. That’s right, 49. Another gunner got twenty some-odd more. And what did those PTs accomplish? Nothing, zero, zip. You like PTs? Great, have a ball. But I would rather have my country-mates in aircraft or gun batteries, where they can actually make a difference. I‘ve got several squadies who love to take out PTs. The fact that they have yet to land a single sortie does not seem to dissuade them one bit. Hey, it’s their nickel… But should they inhibit the defense of the TG, I’ll be asking them to move clear as well.
What’s more, I can always count on one or two PTs spawning at a CV that is under attack. They motor right alongside. Why? To collect proximity kills on everything the AI ack kills. As often as not, they never even fire their guns.
As to losing CVs: The current modeling makes it very difficult to keep them afloat when suicide dorks are willing to fly straight into them. Check the scores of these guys and you’ll find most of them can’t kill anything by any other method. As it stands, I lose very few CVs because I won’t take them into situations where they cannot be properly defended. Yet, I often end up trying to salvage a CV placed in danger by someone else. Results depend more on the enemy than anything the commander might do. It is especially difficult when you can’t even get your own country-mates to cooperate. Sometimes we save them, most times it’s too late.
As to missions, how can you organize missions when everyone is actively defending against 4:1 odds? Who will fly them if every man is needed to hold what you have?
Now, tell us the real reason you moved to the Bish. It wouldn’t be related to getting ganged all the time, would it?
My experience is that the guys who pooh-pooh the Rook’s claim that the numbers imbalance is central to being reset often, they are the most likely to be found lined up to vulch.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Widewing
What’s more, I can always count on one or two PTs spawning at a CV that is under attack. They motor right alongside. Why? To collect proximity kills on everything the AI ack kills. As often as not, they never even fire their guns.
Yep...some even do this in SBD's.
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Cracks me up how some people always tend to put something about their score in a post saying hey, look how good i am. Chest thumping morons.
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Originally posted by BigGun
Cracks me up how some people always tend to put something about their score in a post saying hey, look how good i am. Chest thumping morons.
Killing PTs with a 5" gun mount requires zero skill.
The point was to demonstrate how useless PTs are. Instead, you have demonstrated how insecure you are.
Thanks for playing.
Widewing
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I just made a statement, no names. I guess if the shoe fits, wear it. But since you were only one who posted scores, I guess it wasn't too hard to figure out.
Not exactly sure how that deals with insecurity.
I regularly read the boards and I would guess with majority of posts I have read from Widewing, he inserts something to do with his score. Maybe insecurity?
I was just making a comment on I thought it was funny.
Now, PT boats, useless? I don't know, don't really drive them. I guess if someone has fun paying their $$ driving them little boats, then it isn't useless. On the same hand, some might argue sitting in a gun on the CV shooting at PTs defined as "useless" is USELESS.
Now to switch back to the topic, I agree fully, Bish are EVIL and must DIE.
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Originally posted by BigGun
I just made a statement, no names. I guess if the shoe fits, wear it. But since you were only one who posted scores, I guess it wasn't too hard to figure out.
Not exactly sure how that deals with insecurity.
I regularly read the boards and I would guess with majority of posts I have read from Widewing, he inserts something to do with his score. Maybe insecurity?
I was just making a comment on I thought it was funny.
Now, PT boats, useless? I don't know, don't really drive them. I guess if someone has fun paying their $$ driving them little boats, then it isn't useless. On the same hand, some might argue sitting in a gun on the CV shooting at PTs defined as "useless" is USELESS.
Now to switch back to the topic, I agree fully, Bish are EVIL and must DIE.
Ahh, so first you state it wasn't a specific "dig", then you turn around and say it is.... Why is so hard to speak plainly?
As to killing PTs, they are indeed useless if opposed, dangerous if ignored. We had 5 or 6 guys repeatedly spawn with the intent of torpedoing our TG. We killed them until they came no more... It was easy pickin's. Odds were that most would not have survived the AI ack. We couldn't take that chance.
I still have no idea why so many guys spawn PTs after their CV is sunk. They are little more than targets, and without known exception, they all die. Better to go get a fighter and return then fatten the kill sheets of the opposing side.
My regards,
Widewing
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Maybe they just like driven em Wide....hey, there's an bellybutton for every seat.
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"I'm not a Crook " :D :cool:
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well Spro .. basicaly rooks still have most bases, so we should join bish,beacuse they have a bit less that knits&rooks
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so its quite clear, i see your point now...
cya in tha Bish land :D :D :D
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Originally posted by Widewing
Killing PTs with a 5" gun mount requires zero skill.
The point was to demonstrate how useless PTs are. Instead, you have demonstrated how insecure you are.
Thanks for playing.
Widewing
PT's useless? I don't think so!
They are fun to attack another CV with.
They are fun used as a seaborne AA platform.
They are fun to use to attack a base with.
They are fun to attack inbound GV's at coastal bases.
Finaly, they are fun to use to kill a bases city preping it for troops.
Face it, PT's ARE a bit of fun....that's what we are in AH for isn't it?
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hey up PTs for prox kills nvr thought of that and SBDs ill have to try that...!!!!:p
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Originally posted by MrLars
PT's useless? I don't think so!
They are fun to attack another CV with.
They are fun used as a seaborne AA platform.
They are fun to use to attack a base with.
They are fun to attack inbound GV's at coastal bases.
Finaly, they are fun to use to kill a bases city preping it for troops.
Face it, PT's ARE a bit of fun....that's what we are in AH for isn't it?
Never said they weren't fun, just useless! Lol
Seriously, they are fun! However, they are also death traps, virtually undefendable against everything from rocket firing fighters, to dive bombers, to Ostwinds. Closing on a fleet is like wearing a sign that says "shoot me". That's where the fun stops, when 5" gunners pop you for giggles.
My regards,
Widewing
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Well Smash, I was that “bonehead”.
isn't anything that follows this unnecessary?:rolleyes:
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Our Squad has twice switched to Rooks for an evening and was great fun. Yup we are Bish, but sometimes we fly with Goth as rooks for a little side balancing. We are Bish so we don't usually fly against the Bish just the eveil knits
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I stated the "real reason", and I have to hand it to you for proving my observation to be correct. But in keeping with your request, I will follow up, in minus-ese. (and no offense to minus - I love your posts dude)....
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PT why say you bother? Rook glue not stick players with chest beater - I bother!!
You there - fatwing, no think why I write but cut up PTs! You think me no-wing?!? Bah - I fly many rook planes but where you in bang? Ha - shooting poor PTs. You hide in head when boom???:rolleyes: Simple use laser-tater for score.
I never voice grumble when Bish boneheads drive their eees, even if GV, PT, or CV, instead of saving my 6, cause save grumble for woman. She comes home and grumbles all the time. It no matter PT or not!! Bishes fun group, so I am there. Silly PT less issue.
So there........
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HHHAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Oh my god smash, that was the funniest thing I've read in ages.
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Found this old thread when our squad switched to the low numbered side .
Just so you all know I don't at this time think that the Bish are evil anymore , hehe , some are nice guys just misinformed as were all the good guys fly :lol
Don't plan on swiching either , met some nice guys and gals flying rooks and hope to be long time friends with more .
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PT's are not just fun
2-3 PT's can kill a town with Rox, 40mm and the rest
Pts are easy kills with a 5inch maybe, but if you let em do their stuff they can kill a cv with torps, rox and 40mm. (already got cv kills with rox)
Anyway AA shells shouldn't explode at PT's...I dunno if it was possible in real life but its a gameplay matter
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Noir, the thread is four years old..............
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maybe but AA shells still explode over PT's :)
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lol last week i was waiting outside of the cv ack of a bish cv and i kept killing all those fresh hogs and seafires that were upping as i was in my stang, once us rooks had a presence only 1 pt boat upped, lol shawk got bored and kamakazied it lol wtg shawk no action until someguy upped an sbd on the deck and sat there until bombers killed the cv yep i guess he was waiting for proxy kills, lol as for pts besides the occasional very rare chance to sink a cv pts are useless and are nothing but pony fodder