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Title: ID the A/C 2587
Post by: whgates3 on November 08, 2002, 07:25:25 PM

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Title: ID the A/C 2587
Post by: MiloMorai on November 08, 2002, 09:03:03 PM

Westland Welkin, the son of the Whirlwind.

Title: ID the A/C 2587
Post by: whgates3 on November 09, 2002, 02:14:56 AM

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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Westland Welkin, the son of the Whirlwind.

as you already know, you are correct.
why these planes were not more heavily used, i dont know (other than the engine trouble). the whirwind went onto active service during the Battle of Britan and was faster than the Mk. I spit (although those high set tail-planes tend to be trouble in a swift dive - Welkin had much better tail configuration and was faster than the Mk. V spit), much more heavily armed and reputedly quite manuverable - i've been hunting the 'net and cant find one claim for an air-to-air kill by the whirlwind.  
either plane, if added to AH, would probably be quite effective.
apparently the other main flaw with the whirlwind was high stall speed - as hard as it is to find combat performance info about the whirlwind, its twice as hard for the Welkin

Title: ID the A/C 2587
Post by: palef on November 10, 2002, 07:08:03 PM

Here's a pretty sad combat report that involves Whirlwinds - Mostly gleaned from "The First and the Last", by Adolf Galland.

http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/swedish_aviators/haggberg.htm

This book would probably help:

[E0297] Moyes, Philip J.R.. #191 - The Westland Whirlwind - Profile Number 191. Leatherhead, England: Profile Publications, 1967. 8vo - over 7¾" - 9¾" tall. Soft Cover. Very Good Plus 12 p., photos, color scale drawings. $7.00

Palef

Title: ID the A/C 2587
Post by: whgates3 on November 11, 2002, 12:27:09 AM

tak så mycket.
i've seen a couple of other accounts of poorly executed combat by whirlwind pilots, but no claims for success by a whirlwind pilot