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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Citabria on November 12, 2001, 07:37:00 AM
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what do you like about it most?
what do you not like?
I'll give my stupid opinion first since i started this thread: :p
I love HTC and their support of AH. best ever seen in this industry bar none.
the planes, flight models, virtual cockpits w movable head positions very intuitive, superfly and natedogs attention to detail in the 3d models, hitechs working 7 days a week for the past 2 years on AH :), I love ronni and yankee :D , the AH community and challenge of flying against the really good flyers, and bouncing newbies is great too.
I love vulching, wild wed, TOD, main arena furballing and trying to rack up kill streaks and beat fishu's silly streak record :p
don't like:
wind layers
AI 88mm and 5" flak aiming ability
lack of tower only radar option
night
storm front graphics
non-working, unfun Historical arena (CT)
[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: Citabria ]
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I find trying to find anything like a fair fight frustrating. It's not just a ganging whine, as I find it equally frustrating if half a dozen of my own side jump in.
I guess that's a cultural thing tho' and I've no idea what to do about it.
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Good: Smooth gameplay, plenty of opponents, growing planeset, expanded play, I can squelch the moron who goes off nightly on common channel.
Bad: I don't have enough time to play as much as I'd like, wish we had a few more early war rides, I can't squelch the moron who goes off nightly on country channel.
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What i like:
What Citabria said! This is 100% the best on-line sim i've ever played!!
What i don't like:
- No streak counter (unless you never die ;))
- That there's not 3x as many folks working at HTC with the same dedication to their vision than the current folks so we can have any new A/C and idea done in 1 week :P
- incentive to attack strat targets is not high enough.. i.e kill an airplane factory and a certain type is getting less available for exampl or depots/stations/convoys should have more direct influence (i.e if a conyoy doesn't get thru the fields consumables are doen to 90% (fuel, ammo) if a 2nd one is stopped 80% etc.
- not enough strat targets
- would like to have more clouds like we had
that's all
Cheers
DW6
[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: Duckwing6 ]
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It will be easyer to mention what i dont like
dont like:stormfront and night,not that i want them removed,i just hate them ;) .
Thats all im easy :)
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Pros: Too much to list imo but here are just a few on my "highly notable" list; TRAINS! The innovative and revolutionary view system, ability to effect settings in flight, the FM(!), damned good ballistics, very nice damage model, clouds (swoons), commandable navy, mannable ack-ack, nice variety of gv's, no MG, amphibious operartions, shore batteries, etc etc
Cons: lack of perma-squelch list, auto retracting flaps, huge number of insta-deaths on spawning lately, in-flight radar (colored bars ok). some aircraft views, lack of rear view mirrors (ties in with some aircraft that have too liberal of a view).
Westy
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[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: O'Westy ]
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Love:
~Graphics
~nighttime
~gameplay overall
~events
~community.
~Dislike:
~No perk vehicles
~Bar radar under 500 feet.
~CV's allowed to Waypoint offmap
~Ability of high ranking enemy to change country for 12 hours and turn CV's back over to their host country.
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Like:
-Being an FDB
-Excellent community...mostly :)
-Lovely sheep
-Chute strafing
-HiTech Creations, the whole company
Dislike:
-The next patch ain't out yet (it ain't workin' on my puter at the moment)
-Anyone who whines about the game on Ch 1
-Ripsnort's BMW and him talking about it all the time
-Dorks who need to whine or go on a tirade about dying on Ch1
SOB
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Originally posted by SOB:
-Ripsnort's BMW and him talking about it all the time
SOB
Only because Hajo brings up the topic all the time! (Hajo's Bimmer is garaged for winter :D)
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Citabria:
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what do you like about it most?
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Scenarios, TODs, and other special events!
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what do you not like?
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Too few early and mid war planes.
anRky
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Here's the likes and dislikes of a newbie.
Likes:
1)The community. Whether I've flown with them in other sims, or just met them for the first time, I haven't found anyone in the arena that I haven't enjoyed flying with or against.
2)The planes. No special reason, but they are what drew me to WW2 based FPS flight sims in the first place. If WW2 era planes weren't my fascination, I wouldn't be here. There's a nice variation of types.
3)The look. It's a nice looking game. That adds to the feeling of immersion. In this age of graphics memory 1000x bigger than hard drives of 10 years ago, processor speeds pushing 2k, and bus speeds 100x processor speeds of 5 years ago, and with no end in sight, there's no reason to not have both a game that plays well and a game that looks good. One of AW's failures was its outdated look that kept players from finding out about its outstanding game play.
4)Access to the setup menu while in flight. That's very important to a new player who is still setting up stick- & key-mapping and joystick scaling.
Dislikes:
1)First and foremost is the cumbersome and unintuitive interface, the clipboard. Unfortunately I don't have any answer other than learning how to use it so that it's intuitive and uncumbersome. The reason that it's the way it is is most likely because it's also a very powerful and useful tool.
2)Nose bounce. It's pretty much gone, but imo it should never have been there.
3)Until recently, lousy instructions. The new help file is awesome, I haven't had a chance to read all 173 pages yet however. Is there a way for squads to congregate & plan missions, ala AW? I suppose I have some reading to do.
That's all I can think of for now,
Mosca
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What I like/love:
~Fantastic look and feel of the various aircraft, each is unique. Not like other games where its the same flight model with a different cockpit.
~Scenarios/TODs
~The quality of players/pilots the game attracts. (We got tired of dying to 9-year olds who rolled out F-22s vertical, launched 6 missiles, augered in and repeated this process. Then, these same morons would claim skill if they shot you down...nevermind you dodged 5 of their 6 missiles)
~Newbies can see and play the real thing for 2 weeks.
Dislikes:
~Bugs. I'd say more but don't want the flames.
~Maps. Need more. We've had the same basic 3/4 for a year.
~Pilot Wounded on bombers, where you have multiple pilots, gunners, etc.
~Incredible AI ack that can't hit a slow moving aircraft over the CV/base but CAN ping something going real fast over it. Huh?
~Lack of alternating weather/wind levels.
~ No bullet holes in cockpit, wings, etc
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dislikes:
Only one. That whoopee ND Isles map! :) (Am I even in contention Rude?)
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Originally posted by Citabria:
[QB]what do you like about it most?
Shooting people down.
what do you not like?
People shooting me down.
eskimo
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Good: Looks sharp and has a very well rounded gameplay.
Bad: Though I say it is very well rounded, the game misses entirely the flavor of early-war aircraft.
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bad: lack of non-furball action.
good: lots of furball action when that's what you're in the mood for.
pet peeve: bringing a shot up plane back from a gang bang with a dead engine, landing it on 1 wheel, skidding 3 feet off the side of the runway, and the host says 'you have ditched'.
ra
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bad: whiners
good: whiners
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The Good:Graphics,gameplay,support,strat,immersion
The Bad:FM needs stalls/spins(more likely to get stick stirring message than flight departure),no perk vehicles,clipboard shows perk points earned..instead of flight points
The Ugly:Sally lifting shirt at AH con.. :)
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Good = HTC. Regardless of what I may or may not like about AH, HTC is an incredible company which I have nothing but the utmost respect for.
Bad = focusing gameplay on the landgrab. This really degrades from the air combat in AH. Ideally landgrab would be a limited, peripheral issue, like vehicles and boats.
J_A_B
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Pros: Everything minus the cons :) Great game overall. Too lazy to type everything I like about it.
Cons: collision modelling. NDisles map, lack of more GVs and early war planes.
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As far as what I like about the game there's too much to list. I'd include the unwavering support from the HTC staff. Its nice having people there who share the same passion for the game as those playing it. <S> HTC.
The graphics and interface are top notch. I like the plane set (several 109's to choose from hehe) although I'd like to see some more early war planes--I'm sure that'll come in time.
As for what I don't like there's only a couple of things. The self-retracting flaps would prolly be at the top of my list. I really don't understand that at all. I have a button mapped just for retracting them <shrug>.
That and the stall horn are about it. I'd rather have some buffetting instead. More realistic. That damned howling banshee stall horn just about drives me nuts some nights! Can you tell I like to ride the edge just a little?
I've been in AH since March and I'm having a blast. Great job on a great game.
Drano
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Pro: "Feel" of flying is closest to actual compared to other games so far... IMO. Continual updates, always evolving. Amazing variety in ways to entertain yourself. Incredible Price. Owner operated.
Cons: Where's that B-25C in 345th colors?
Whiners.
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Good: Everything BUT:
Bad: damage model (its either undamaged or ripped off), no permanent squelch list, 38 quirks (yeah, you didnt see that one coming! lol!), no early war planes.
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I just returned here after taking a time out and tried to spawn a vehicle. It took me almost an hour to figure out that a 2 foot tree could kill my tank.???
Whats this all about???
I used to have a ball with the ground vehicles in here...and I know many others did. Spawning a vhicle in here now is a useless endevour and a waste of time.
Considering that there are some real unsatisfied cutomers in another sim right now(shouldnt need to mention which)it would behove HTC to make the groundwar more fun.
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Likes:
Graphics
Sounds
Interface
Huge number of AC
GV's Buffs
Lots more
Dislikes:
Killshooter
Lack of Killrunner
Espionage
Hates:
Lil bushs killing gv's (trees are ok)
Severely underpowered gv engines
Pet Hates:
the fact that the 40mm Hurri, Typhoon, IL2 and other AC designed for killing armour are not used because a P51 or other mg armed plane can penetrate heavy armour just as easily or more easily then the former.
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Likes: F6F Hellcat
Dislikes: All other aircraft
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Likes: just about everything.
Dislikes: my 56k dial up connx from Aus
inst-a-death(tm) ground object modelling
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Likes
1) Heightened level of realism
Yeah, I know nobody knows here what is 'real' and what isn't... but the difficulty of flying and fighting here sure shines above many other sims I have encountered. And the levels of research - community and HTC alike - seem to be very high too.
2) WWII material
I wouldn't be playing AH if there were something like Phantoms and Falcons and Hornets here. I play AH because there are Spitfires and Hurricanes and Mustangs and.. er... um... do 109s have any nicknames?? Something about antique, vintage aircraft make me smile :)
Dislikes
1) :mad: Hispanos
2) relatively inferior graphics compared to some box sims.. it ain't bad, but it ain't excellent either :) let's hope for improvements
3) Ndisles :D
4) minor graphical errors
5) cockpit art takes a lot away from immersion.. :(
Overall, though the number of dislikes is more than likes, the two likes outweigh all the dislikes added up :)
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Likes..
I feel that the fighter combat is bar-none, hands-down the best I've ever seen.
Dislikes..
Ground Vehicles are a tad screwed up.
Bombers are totally screwed up.
Total lack of feedback regarding customer concerns.
Thats just about it. Even with my 3 big dislikes, the game is still probably the best game of any type I've ever played.
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LIKES:
1) Mission diversities.
2) Variable convergence.
3) Fleet assaults.
4) Aircraft diversities.
5) Frequent updates.
6) Perk system.
7) Graphics.
8) Ack that saves me.
DISLIKES:
1) Hillary Clinton.
2) Enemies that think I give a rats ass.
3) Friendly dweebs that think I give a rats ass.
4) Damaged aircraft with 100% functionality.
5) The trim model.
6) Wind Layers.
7) The logic behind what ack hits/doesn't hit.
8) Rank system favoring kills/time regardless of life vs death.
9) Suicidal amazinhunks killing CV (I can do it without dying, why can't you?).
10) Control surfaces falling off rather then getting shot to hell.
11) Spawn death bug.
12) Lack of permanent squelch feature.
13) Ack huggers/ack that doesn't save me.
[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: Voss ]
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Total lack of feedback regarding customer concerns.
Ever play AH? It's a pretty good game, and the developers have plenty of close contact and feedback with the customers there. Try it! ;)
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I like drinking beer while flying
I dislike having to pee while fighting.
xBAT
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I like:
-HTC. :)
-The game. All in all is well worth the 30$/month it costed, much more now with 15$/month.
-The perk system. Nice way to add rare birds without serious whinin' (lazs1 doesnt count as he whines about everything <G> )
-The Fw190. Any game with this plane is worth a look :D
-strat system
In fact is faster to say that I like most things of AH :).
I dislike:
-Lack of more in-deep and important engine management (to keep the allied dweebs worried while I'm task-free in my kommandogėrated 190 <GDR> )
-Gameplay concessions that force more gameplay concessions to balance the unbalance created by the first gameplay concessions (understood? :D).
-In flight dot radar (in flight bar dar is fine with me,but only showing cons over 500 feet. Under 500 feet no cons should be shown, period).
-190F8 lacks 80% of loadouts it carried historically.
-190D9 still suffering weird radiator damage. 190A fine now :).
-Icon system with neon billboards wich make sneak attack attempts almost impossible. (WWIIOL is the most elegant icon system that I've seen, and I'm authorised to talk about)
-COmbat trim (tho is not much of a nuisance as it used to be)
-flap auto-retracting. Lack of combat flaps for german aircraft.
-laser rangefinder (closely related with icon system) allowing kills at relatively ultra-long distances.
-Hispano 1-ping wing rips from 1K.
-Fleet AAA. Field AAA. AAA in general. Ridiculous accuracy :D.
-Ostie not perked (should be, and not a cheap one)
-Wind layers. unrealistic, and add nothing but frustration to the gameplay.
- FPS on the low 30s in the best of the cases, and averaging 20s, in a system wich should pull at least 45. :mad:
-I lack HOTAS ------> Really deep hate this one :D
[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]
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I like damn near everything about the game.
I really like:
the way HTC handles it and stays involved.
flying with and against people I haven't seen since AW DOS.
Mindanao terrain.
Stuff I don't like? That's a very short list, HO's and collisions. There must be a better way to model them than what we have but I'm sure not smart enough to know what it is.
Buzzard
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<<<.. er... um... do 109s have any nicknames??>>>
Gelawndarten
ra
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I like the support we get
I like the options available eg. trains, planes, boats and other things
I dont like whiners much
I don't like HO dweebs (its a bias of mine)
I don't like whiners with bad conns who claim they wouldnt have died if their conn was better :)
I don't like the night (awright so I'm gettin old)
I don't like Spits :)
That about does it for me <S>
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My deal with any MMPOG:
Best part of the game: The people
Worst part of the game: The people
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As far as a total lack of feedback goes.. I can only say what has been my experience. I can give some examples:
Will there ever be a 109K in the game?
<silence>
There is something wrong with the damage model for the 190A5 and A8, can you look into it?
<Thunderous silence>
Why is the Ta-152 perked to such a degree as to make it virtually unseen in the MA?
<Roaring silence>
Etc., Etc., Etc.
In fact, what little feedback I DO see involves Hitech telling people that they don't deserve an answer because they are "whiners" (i.e. Supongo, Tac), or telling others just to stop "whining". Not exactly what I would call constructive feedback, but I guess since I have a "victim mentality" (ask Karnak what that is, I'm sure he can explain it better than I can), maybe I'm just oversensative.
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First, the 109G-10 is essentially the K. This has been stated over and over, I personally have seen it many times.
Second, the standing answer on checking over anything is "provide evidence it is wrong." Again, I've seen this over and over.
Third, the concept of the perk is to make the ultra-late war stuff available without resorting to rolling plane set. It keeps the stuff relatively rare, yet provides a path for anyone to get one. I don't know how many ways this can be explained, I sure got it on the first pass. You guessed it, this has been stated over and over.
Now disagree with HTC on any of those points, no argument. To say HTC doesn't respond to the community is not fair in the least.
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I'd buy your response, on all of those points, except for the fact I disagree with it.
First of all, there seems to be neither rhyme nor reason in the way the perk values are assigned. Case in point, the F4U-1c and the Ta-152. Both were late-war (summer of 1945 for the -1c if I'm not mistaken, and December of 1944 for the 152), small production runs (200 for the -1c, and something similar for the 152), that had absolutely no impact on the war whatsoever. You can disagree with me here, but in my opinion if niether plane had been introduced, the outcome would have been the same for all parties involved. In my opinion, the -1c is FAR superior to the 152 given the typical MA circumstances (low altitude, multiple plane engagements). Furthermore, the -1c enjoys a 2,000 pound bomb payload, and rockets. All this in addition to 4 of the best cannons in the game (again, my opinion) with 900 odd rounds.
The Ta-152 is a superior aircraft above 30,000 feet, below that it is a marginal aircraft at best. Yet, one is perked into nonexistance, and the other is perked (extraordinarily cheaply) only AFTER usage reached mind-boggling levels. Even with the 8 point cost, the F4U-1c is still in the top 10 for usage.
Another fine example is the F4U-4. The plane makes 380 mph on the deck, is armed with 6 .50 caliber machineguns... and costs 60 points to fly. Thanks.. I'll fly an La-7 instead. It makes 385 mph on the deck, is armed with 3 20mm cannons, and is absolutely free. Or.. maybe I'll fly the F4U-1c instead.. it carries the same payload, plus it has roughly 5 times the hitting power with its 4 20mm Hispanos. The F4U-4 is NOT an overwhelming dominant aircraft, I believe every time I've seen one I've shot it down (I could be wrong here, but I know I killed 2 in the same sortie in a 190A8.. which is hardly a well performing aircraft). So please, you tell me, since HTC can't be bothered. What is the rationale behind assigning perk values to planes?
On the second point, I'm not sure I understand exactly HOW we are supposed to "prove something is wrong, or we are just whining". Exactly HOW was I supposed to show that in real life a 190A did NOT actually lose the engine if it took 1 hit anywhere on the aircraft? As far as I know, there aren't any 190s flying these days, and I highly doubt that if there were the owner would let me take potshots at it from different angles, just to see what would happen.
Even the long-raging, dead horse beating argument over buff guns can't be resolved. Why? Because HTC won't give us the tools to do it ourselves. I really thought I had a good tool in the .target function, until I realized that it stayed in the same position relative to the aircraft, making it impossible to isolate a pair of guns to the extent necescary to test them. Who is to say that buff guns do or do not hit harder than normal fighter guns? Nobody. Nobody can "prove" what they say, whether they do or do not believe that buff guns hit harder. All that can be done is that people that think something is wrong keep speaking up, and people that believe there isn't a problem keep telling them to make their own game, or stop whining, etc. etc. etc.
On the last point (or first point), of COURSE the 109G10 in the game is "functionally equivalent" to the 109K4. Everybody says it is, so that must be true, right? And before you ask, no I haven't done any scientific studies comparing the Aces High 109 with the 109K4 that I actually own and fly in real life (I wish... but I guess that would be the only way to PROOVE my case). I've only got what other people say to go on, namely that the K-4 climbed at 5200 FPM (which our G10 doesn't), and was equipped with tabs on the ailerons to assist in rolling the plane at high speeds. Hell, I'd want a K-4 just for that reason alone. I realize that adding a "new and improved" 109 to the game is probably very low on most peoples "wish-lists", but it'd be nice to have, in my opinion.
I don't doubt that perhaps you have had excellent communication with HTC regarding your concerns and the manner that they would be addressed in, but I haven't had that. So you'll have to pardon my opinion, I suppose. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
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1.08 is still being sorted out, so concerns about the F4U4's cost should be deferred until after a few more tours. I think these perk planes all get adjusted over time (though I am not sure).
The 152 IS a very dangerous aircraft. The problem with it in the MA is the dweeby way it is flown. The 152 is NOT a low level furballer. It's not even a medium alt furballer. Upstairs, though, this plane kicks major ass. Finding a fight up there, though, is problematic.
Hmm, 190 should take more pings without engine dying. There's no doubt about that.
My opinion about 109 K4? We got enough 109's. BUT, might as well add it to the perk list. <G>
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Urchin-
I don't ask that you agree with me or anyone regarding the veracity of your concerns- that isn't my point at all. You have stated that we are all ignored by HTC, and that is not true at all. You haven't gotten the answers you want, true enough, but HTC has been present all over this BBS since day one. Wanna get ignored? I can send you to a few other sims and let you try your hand. ;)
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I like:
- excellent 3d graphics with high detail
- the FM's 'feel' good (yeah I know, I should back it up with hard data, but people that have done AH aircraft performance comparison with hard data and sim tests, found out that many planes do match real life performance pretty close)
- the constant improvements of the game and the adding of more features on a regular basis.
- the damage models in general
- the community with alot of support and experts in various WWII aircraft fields
- the connectivity quality up to the last server upgrade, ;)
- the support and dedication of HTC staff towards their customers
I don't like:
- the unreal ack and 88mm accuracy
- FW190 one-ping-engine dead syndrome, although I thought that this would be corrected in 1.08, it is still a problem
- the current random placement of trees, rocks etc, I would like to see some clear patches for the purpose of ditching a plane, i.e. groups of trees rather than random placement.
- map change system, I would like to see a maximum on the days a certain map is active (it sometimes takes weeks to reset to a map)
- 'fixed perk system', I would like a trial on a rolling perk system
- current resource system: I would like a more eleborate resource system being implemented.
- tendency towards adding late war planes rather than early war planes. Even though the succes ratio of early war planes in MA will probably be small I think they would be very usefull in events. And people that don't care about score will have alot of fun flying them (that goes for early allied AND axis planes)
- Although I understand the reason, I don't like the current connectivety quality and hope it will be resolved soon.
Although my list of 'i don't like:' is longer than the list of 'I do like:' that doesn't reflect my feeling towards the game.
In general, for me, AH rocks. Salute HTC! :D
P.S. Cit, are you under contract with HTC for doing all these polls? :D
[ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: Apar ]
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Urchin,
I don't wish to partake in throwing this thread off course, but I will interject some points.
Our time spent on the BBS is inversely proportional to our workload. It's neither possible nor a goal of ours to try and answer everything brought up on this board. That would be more than a full-time job by itself. That said, on your points I would have to disagree with you. The 109K question has been addressed in the past and on subjects like that, any number of people can relay the salient points on the matter. There was a damage bug fixed on the FW's this past version. On the Ta-152, the cost was reduced. To say that none of this is addressed is not true. Look through our readme's with every version release and you'll find a very strong correlation between it and the feedback we receive on this board.
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Pyro, I know the 190 Engine damage was fixed in 1.08, and I heartily thank you for it. However, for the LONGEST time, there was no response from HTC on it, and the only response we got was "stop whining" from other players.
Same with the Ta-152. Yes, the price has been lowered. Usage has still not increased. Will the price be lowered until usage increases? <Silence>
I have nothing but respect for you guys regarding this game. Even with all my nagging and squeaking about little things, it is hands-down the BEST game of any genre I've ever had the pleasure of partaking in. I also realize that you don't really have time to answer a lot of the posts on the BBS, but what does bother me is most of the responses seem to be snide one-liners (your present response excluded, of course).
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Hmmm so what I think I hear you saying Urchin is that yer a fan of the TA 152 and want to fly it more (as well as others to fly it more) without going broke. I say, who cares myself. As has been pointed out here, it seems more suited to hi alt where nobody flies anyway to be of mucj use other than killing buffs, which was the intent of its designers anyway.
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stay on topic
STAY ON TOPIC
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Dislikes: People who try and take a thread off with them on their own little tangents. Boneheads who are mad about the price of the TA-152, but who will fly it anyway and just get more and more pissed as they lose successive aircraft and thus more perk points. :p Also, people who start stupid opinion threads, and those who reply to them.
SOB