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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: krazyhorse on November 11, 2002, 10:29:21 AM
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hi yall i wanted to JOSEPH TOBUL,68, who died in an airshow in columbia sc while flying his F4U corsair.link (http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/4492083.htm)
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link doesn't work
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It should be:
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/4492083.htm
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finally got it
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. A very sad Veteran's day indeed.
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A very sad day indeed. :( I meet Joe Tobul at an airshow in Hickory NC a couple years ago. He was a real nice guy and he and his plane were always a favorite there.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the Tobul family.
Joe
Skyfoxx
(http://www.alltel.net/~hensons/f4u4a.jpg)
Joe's F4UF at Hickory NC 2000
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"He got about a mile from the runway, and I guess he decided he couldn't make it," Givens said. "You could tell he intentionally tried to keep from hitting anything. He lost a good bit of speed on that first turn."
Very sad vet/rememberance day indeed. This gentleman is obviously already a hero for his service, and his final act on this earth has driven home that point. There is IMO no better way to check out, than to do it while protecting others, and adding in the fact that he was no doubt doing what he loved best, flying his F4, I'm certain that wherever he is he has a big grin on his face.
I think there should be a joint civilian/military decoration for pilots who intentionally ditch their aircraft in a less than ideal attitude in order to miss civilians on the ground.
to the Tobul's.
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PLease tell me....
If u have a good speed to fly and u r engine stops unexpectet. Why does so many planes chrash ?
Isnt it possible to bring it gliding on the ground some how ?
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he crashed because he was trying to avoid hitting houses.. :(
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this is the first time iv'e missed this show in 3 years, most of the flying is low level and a highly urban area , it would be very difficult to not hit any houses or businesses he did GREAT, ive had the chance to meet him in person so have my wife and son, a very kind person he will be missed prayers to Mr.Tobul's family and freinds
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Pic of Joe Tobul's F4U-4 "Korean War Hero" taken Saturday 9 November, the day before the crash:
(http://www.foxfiredesigns.com/airshow/f4u4640.jpg)
Joe Tobul flying lead in the missing man formation to open the Celebrate Freedom Festival on Saturday 9 November:
(http://www.foxfiredesigns.com/airshow/missingman640.jpg)
The Tobuls have a website at http://www.koreanwarhero.com (http://www.koreanwarhero.com) .
God rest Joe Tobul.
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Originally posted by fffreeze220
PLease tell me....
If u have a good speed to fly and u r engine stops unexpectet. Why does so many planes chrash ?
Isnt it possible to bring it gliding on the ground some how ?
Maybe, but he was in a bad spot. Apparently his engine quit at low altitude two miles out from the airfield heading away. Some witnesses saw him make a turn back toward the field, then turn away when he realized he was going to come down short of the field in a subdivision. He went down in a swampy wood 75 yards away from two houses.
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a real hero, sacraficed his own life and that beautiful plane to save lives of others, even at the most casual of air force flying...
ive seen p51s and b17s engines quit at airshows i have been to, and they glide back down and usualy get little damage, just no his day i guess.... very sad :(
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I think there should be a joint civilian/military decoration for pilots who intentionally ditch their aircraft in a less than ideal attitude in order to miss civilians on the ground.
This might be worth considering in cases like Jimmy Rossi, F86 driver who recently lost his life when he choose to stear his to the ground rather than eject. Rossi was high enough to eject, so he made a concious choice to risk death rather than let his aircraft kill anyone on the ground.
Not to speak ill of the dead, but Tobul might not have been doing anything particularly heroic. He choose a swampy field because his chances of survival were alot better in a field than hitting houses obviously, and for him, he was probably too low to bail out.
It's possible, not knowing the circumstances, that his engine quit high enough to bail out, but having and loving an aircraft like an F4U, just about any pilot would rather try and dead stick back to the airport rather than bail out.
Either way, a good man is gone too soon, and that is a tragedy to those who cared about him.
dago