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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: VWE001 on November 12, 2002, 08:00:03 PM
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Tonight as the Rooks roll on, 4aces takes an M3 and pulls it into the map room waiting for the word that the city is down. Fair or unfair? I think its pretty cheap...
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This game is, "gamed," in every other dweeb way....so I see nothing wrong with it.
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Roll m3 into maproom?..U mean so it's not visable or something?
:confused:
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Sounds like a dangerous place to be
:(
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It sounds smart to me.
eskimo
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If you drive into a maproom, you cant be seen.
Solution is a 1k bomb.
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I reckon if you have some kind of an objective, be it offensive, defensive it doesn't matter... then people do whatever it takes to get it done. The only way to stop it is to make it impossible (narrowing the map room entrance for example). Otherwise, you work with the tools given you. Folks are playing at war... in a game... morality doesn't even enter the picture... and worrying about hurt feelings was about the last thing on that M3 driver's mind.
Btw, I rolled an M16 into the map room for base defence once. That was kinda fun. But the next time you run into this kinda thing, kill him. The map room doesn't protect him, and his icon still appears. He's just as much of a sitting duck as he would be any place else... He's just a little closer to where he needs to be is all. :)
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Sounds fair enough.
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Ground vehicles using cover?
HOW GAMEY!
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Its dorky as hell but its a flaw in the game so expect it to be taken advantage of. This is afterall, WAR.
Heres the deal. The Map room is a 3D object but for some some silly gawdamned reason you can drive into and through the 3D object without penalty, thus effectively hiding the M3 within the 3D object.
No one heavy object (M3) should be able to cross thru the path of a similar heavy object (Map room) without there being a physics penalty (Collision).
Right now, there is no peanlty, so its dweeby as hell.
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Actually Yeager, the openning is big enough that you can get through it and inside of the map room. You don't hit anything.
But still... you can't hide in it... icon shows... and it doesn't protect you.
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It's not collideable to eliminate everything but paratroopers from destroying it. Either it'd need to be set to a super high hardness (even then continuous shelling or lancaster swarming would eventually suffice) and troopers lethality correspondingly or the code should be changed.
It's more a question of if it bothers HTC. Seeing how he answered the "eng-off, gamey or not?" thread and that he landed at a vulched then capped MA field himself...
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You know when you're at a field and you go to the map room it is 'the' map room in the town (except from a CV which takes you to some remote and undisclosed location). You can use the external view from the maproom to view the towns' surroundings and check things out.
I would expect most of the veterans to know that, but some rookies may not.:p
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Originally posted by VWE001
Tonight as the Rooks roll on, 4aces takes an M3 and pulls it into the map room waiting for the word that the city is down. Fair or unfair? I think its pretty cheap...
We learned it from bishes!:rolleyes: :D :D
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That's nothing! I saw some real-life gaming the game last weekend. I was watching a football game on TV, the game was winding down, the team needed a field goal to win it. They were out of time-outs, it was 3rd down and they were in field goal range. 10 seconds left in the game. QB gets the ball and throws a forward pass 2 feet in front of him into the ground with the apparent intention of stopping the clock! They called it a "spike"! I couldn't believe it! Clearly not what the writers of the rules had in mind. That team should have taken the loss and kept their dignity! Gaming the game has reached college football! Look what you guys have started, or have you?;)
Point is, if it can be done, people will do it. The answer is making maprooms hard ojects, not crying because people want to win.
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I heard they actually threw the football through the air!!!
woah, is that a new rule or something ?
(ok, so it was a rule that no one paid attention to until it was used, successfuly)
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Originally posted by Oedipus
The moral is ....
When HTC hands out scholarships for winning in "Aces High" we would be expected to kick, scratch, gouge eyes out and even bite ears off to succeed?
Uh, you didn't see that thread? HT is giving his RV away to the winner...
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Originally posted by VWE001
Tonight as the Rooks roll on, 4aces takes an M3 and pulls it into the map room waiting for the word that the city is down. Fair or unfair? I think its pretty cheap...
If it prevents him from being shot by other GV's I give it a (http://www.plauder-smilies.de/nono.gif)
If not I give it a (http://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gif)
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Wow, this thread was started by someone who was using TBM's as fighters at 22k in the midway event and bragged about his squad of TBM's intercepting f4f's in the midway forum. And you complaining about other people gaming the game, now you know how it feels on the other end.
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Just read, yeah, you are a bit more subtle,lol. I think I almost got banned replying to his post in the Midway forum. My big mouth can be my own worst enemy:(
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Oedipus, I thought you were all about realism in gameplay. Did you guys toggle your engines too?:confused:
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What online simm were you part of before you came here?
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Aww sixpence, were you on of my 2 kills? I didn't say anything about gaming the game I just posed a question. Try not to read between the lines and find the hidden meaning, you sound like a girl.
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Hey !
6p you seriouly think that you're not biased at all ?
or you're joking ?
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Gee Oldpuss, I asked a question AND gave my own answer... do you have ADD or what?
TBM "air superiority fighter" now there's a new one! Yeah, I'd be pissed if some TBM forced my F4F to the deck from 22k AND shot me down... oh, but I wouldn't get into that situation.
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Originally posted by Voss
(except from a CV which takes you to some remote and undisclosed location)
Not quite. There are some maprooms visible on the map. It's one of those.
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Nevermind odipus, I misread the earlier post. I just never heard from you til recently. I guess your past will remain elusive to us. Your were from "airplane battle" weren't you? ;)
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Damn those cheatin Rooks:D
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Wow, alot written on this subject. Well, it seems, by this post, that everyone has been on the receiving end of the game being "Gamed". And nobody likes it, you get these posts all the time. And I hear they are working on it(mission arena?). But, when I signed up for Midway(soon as I got home from work), I was looking forward to recreating the battle of midway and getting away from the main. I saw Midway(the movie), in senseround(spell?) when I was a kid. The pacific war facinated me ever since. I was looking forward to this all month, emailed Yeager, kept in touch. When I first saw the map I thought "this is gonna be great!, we are actually going to recreate the battle" (Awesome map by the way, what detail, hope to see it in the CT.)And I actually thought where the IJN knew we were there, that history could change and Midway would be captured.Or maybe we would find their CV's first and history wouldn't change.Would there be a fierce battle near Midway with only one CV for each side left? I was pretty psyched. And what happened with the use of the TBM really disappointed me. And obviously it bothered others too. And you say that speaking up about is ruining the game for you.Well, I kinda feel the same way, I'm not going to say it was ruined, but it sure disappointed me. Now, for risk of being sensored I'm not going to say anything more about it. I'm going to call(like I should have along time ago), and voice my displeasure. Maybe we can get a "Realistic Recreation Event" for the people who really want to recreate a battle.
, and sorry to those who put the time and effort into the events and see the complaints. But I'm a customer, and I'm going to voice my concern when the product disappoints me. Thnx for the 6 cover Oed
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Edit that thing into digestible bite sized chunks for godsakes!
And while you're on the phone with HTC, please ask them politely to include every plane in the next release so scenarios don't have to rely on substitutions resulting in the situation you're complaining about.
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Lol, they get plenty of requests for planes(just reading a post in CT about Burma planeset). But, one plane at a time, have to keep us salivating over new releases;) And it works, I get a woody everytime a new release is about to be launched:D