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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: MaddDog on November 13, 2002, 08:01:12 PM
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I have only 2 questions about 1.11.....Can anyone confirm that the Me-163 and B-29 with A-bomb will be in the next version?:confused:
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Pyro said the Me163 would be in 1.11.
I haven't heard anything about the B-29 though, and would be very, very, very surprised if the A-Bomb is ever added. I recall HTC saying that the 4,000lb bomb introduced with the Lancaster was the largest bomb that was going to be done in AH.
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An A-bomb is one of those things that sounds "neat" but would add nothing to gameplay. If it WAS added it would have to be used so rarely that there would be no point in having wasted the time on it.
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Ok i wasnt sure about the B-29 with A-Bomb..... there another post here about it being in AH supposedly soon i think and it talked about small boy coming with it, and..... a 4000 that kinda sucks there were many more big bombs, and just 1 more thing cant waite for the Me-163, them 262s are gonna have alil competition now!
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Originally posted by MaddDog
.....and just 1 more thing cant waite for the Me-163, them 262s are gonna have alil competition now!
For about 2 minutes :D
palef
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I've never heard anything about the B29 being added for 1.11, not even a rumour
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Sorry guess i mistook it, go down to BGBMAWS post says B-29wwweee or something that where i heard it, was just wondering
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...so how is radioactive fallout going to affect rebuild time?
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id say they perk the bomb hardcore.....and if u use it basically u got the base...... as far as death from radiation i dont think so though i do think that any planes fly near when it blew should die!
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Originally posted by MaddDog
..................B-29 with A-bomb will be in the next version?:confused:
sure one A- bomb cost 3000 perks;) have u enough perks???
ramzey
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thats kinda just being dumb....100 - 200 at the most it would only take out 1 base. it would be used like the 262 not often but when in need!
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Originally posted by ramzey
sure one A- bomb cost 3000 perks;) have u enough perks???
ramzey
Why yes I do have nuff for one of them.
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B-29? No no no plz not. I guess we have enough US Iron that falls apart.
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Originally posted by palef
For about 2 minutes :D
palef
I hope you mean 8 minutes, or else the refuling guys cheated you! :D
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Originally posted by GScholz
I hope you mean 8 minutes, or else the refuling guys cheated you! :D
Way I figure it is, you have 3 minutes to climb up there, 2 minutes to fight, and 3 minutes to get the hell away.
palef
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Originally posted by palef
Way I figure it is, you have 3 minutes to climb up there, 2 minutes to fight, and 3 minutes to get the hell away.
palef
The last 3 minutes ... well, the bombers won't follow you down, and if the escors want to, they can follow you back to base anyways knowing you only got minutes of fuel left anyways. Fight with all your fuel and dive back to base, you'll prolly be right on top of it.
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Originally posted by GScholz
The last 3 minutes ... well, the bombers won't follow you down, and if the escors want to, they can follow you back to base anyways knowing you only got minutes of fuel left anyways. Fight with all your fuel and dive back to base, you'll prolly be right on top of it.
I hear what you are saying.
One tactic I read about the Me163, and I shall try to verify it today (I think it was in Flight Journal about 6 months ago), was that it had such pleasant flying characteristics that Me163 Pilots would attempt to drag pursuers back into their airfield ack, and then engage them! I'd like to do that with some thrust still available!
I can hear the whines about ack draggin rocketships now! ;)
palef
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I can't remember who posted the following, but it was my understanding that the Me163 would only be available in defending strat targets and would launch from a spot near them, not from normal airfields. I don't remember who posted that, might have been something Pyro said online, but that was my understanding. That would make the Me163 a fairly rare plane to encounter unless very near strat targets.
-Soda
The Assassins.
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Originally posted by Soda
I can't remember who posted the following, but it was my understanding that the Me163 would only be available in defending strat targets and would launch from a spot near them, not from normal airfields. I don't remember who posted that, might have been something Pyro said online, but that was my understanding. That would make the Me163 a fairly rare plane to encounter unless very near strat targets.
-Soda
The Assassins.
This years con HiTech opined that the 163 would be limited in the MA to those fields local to the HQ............. However given that longe range HQ raids are few and far between then it might only be rarely used.........
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a-bomb would be fun. call it the ultimate perk weapon. use it and lose all perk points.
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No, when you come back down you glide so it's 3 minutes to get up there, 5 minutes to fight and then just glide down and take as long as you like.
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of you're in a Me-163 @alt when you run out of fuel, you could probably gather enough speed on the way down to attack any low flying NME A/C...very aerodynamic plane, probable picks up speed in a dive very quickly
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I don't like the idea of the atom bomb, nuclear bombs destroy living things, they do not incinirate buildings.
It would make AH a very stupid game.
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I think you're mistaking the A-bomb with the neutron bomb. The A-bomb most certainly DOES incinerate buildings, not to mention blowing things away with the blast wave. The proposed neutron bomb would, in theory, only kill living things, but leave buildings standing.
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with all the people dead who would rent space in the buildings? nobody. market forces would drive rents way below the negative profit/sustainable loss level and all savvy landlord would burn down their buildings for the $$insurance$$ - thus the neutron bomb would effectively destroy buildings - anyway nukes, neutron & U-bombs are not WWII tech - A-bombs are, but only two saw combat - both were prototypes - so they wouldn't qualify under AH standards...maybe in SWOTL or AceFury
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Originally posted by bioconscripter
I don't like the idea of the atom bomb, nuclear bombs destroy living things, they do not incinirate buildings.
From the Peace Memorial Museum in central Hiroshima, models of the hypocenter of the blast (the area directly under the bomb when it detonated):
Before the bombing:
(http://www.csi.ad.jp/ABOMB/PPM/ppm02.gif)
After the bombing:
(http://www.csi.ad.jp/ABOMB/PPM/ppm03.gif)
The Atomic Bomb Dome -- the building that was directly under the bomb, and was protected because the shock wave was down, rather than sideways -- surrounded by rubble from the nearby buildings:
(http://www.csi.ad.jp/ABOMB/RETAIN/field01.gif)
If you want to see more clearly what the destruction was like, go to the Hiroshima Panorama Project (http://titan.iwu.edu/~rwilson/hiroshima/) website and look at Panorama 2 (http://titan.iwu.edu/~rwilson/hiroshima/rama2.htm) (the image is way too big to include here) -- aside from a few scattered ruins that still have walls standing, the buildings are gone[/u].
Hardly a lack of incinerated buildings.
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No, I am not mistaking it with the neutron bomb. At the point of the impact it destroyes most of the buildings but as you go farther out the percentage of buildings destroyed quickly decreases, living this are killed and some buildings colapse.
But who cares? A atomb bomb in AH would be very very stupid.
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I might be mistaken but i think the me163 had rocket rather than jet propulsion and it was an all or nothing supply, as in once you fire the engine the only way to switch it off was to run out of fuel.
If you are going to drag pursuers back to a base you will have to be pretty good at energy fighting to stay on top of a good prop plane flown by someone who knows you are forever losing your alt/energy. I would predict that only those who are new to AH would be caught out by a sudden reverse of a gliding 163.The rest of us will patiently wait for them to get too low/slow to escape an attack I suspect.
but who knows ? maybe it was incredibly maneouverable? I really havent read much on it but i have got a write up about it written by capt. Eric Brown dfc dso, the RAF test pilot so often quoted. Maybe its time to read up on it :)
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Actually hazed, the Me-163B's engine had a five position throttle. Those being off, ground idle, flight idle, cruise, and max. Since the major production version was the B (and the variant we'll get), it had a completely throttable engine. Info can be had (from Rudi Opitz himself) over here
http://www.flightjournal.com/articles/me163/me163_1.asp
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hey thnx i didnt know that
flakbait
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If you refer to the help webpages where it explains the perk points, there is a direct reference to the Tiger II and the B29. I believe the B29 is coming but when... maybe 2weeks :D
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No trouble a-tall, hazed! :) A few nights back I was in H2H and saw someone stuck a 163 in the middle of the runway using the terrain editor. Sitting beside the thing in my Yak really told me how small that rocket-powered egg was. Now after seeing the comparison on the above site between a 163 and a P-51, it must've been hell to hit those suckers. Half the length of a -51D sure ain't much of a target!
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