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Title: Puny ricers
Post by: J_A_B on November 15, 2002, 03:22:02 AM
While I did not make this picture, this is the sort of thought that runs through my brain every time a "kewl" little ricer go-kart pulls up next to my Caddy  :D


J_A_B
Title: Puny ricers
Post by: ra on November 15, 2002, 07:01:55 AM
Some of those little go-carts could blow the doors off your caddy up to about 90mph, and then cruise at that speed at 30mpg.  :)

ra
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Post by: gofaster on November 15, 2002, 08:18:08 AM
I'd like to see that race, say, around Sebring's Grand Prix track.
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Post by: Ripsnort on November 15, 2002, 08:20:51 AM
Bic lighters have a longer flame than a Zippo, but they're disposable.
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Post by: Dowding (Work) on November 15, 2002, 08:48:25 AM
Japanese automotive quality is arguably the best in the world, on a par with German engineering. I'd buy Mitsubishi, Subaru or Nissan over a Ford or Vauxhall (GM owned) any day of the week.
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Post by: AKDejaVu on November 15, 2002, 08:56:49 AM
Hell.. my car barely has 2 litres of storage capacity... but I'd take in on the track at Sebring... or how about Sears Point?

Its not lightning fast... but if the track has curves... watch out:
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Post by: Wlfgng on November 15, 2002, 08:59:11 AM
I love that ad!

friggin awesome.

gimme a muscle car any day over a rice-burner.
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Post by: Ripsnort on November 15, 2002, 09:00:01 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding (Work)
Japanese automotive quality is arguably the best in the world, on a par with German engineering. I'd buy Mitsubishi, Subaru or Nissan over a Ford or Vauxhall (GM owned) any day of the week.


To be honest, I would say that they've surpassed German engineering. Yet, you still don't see as many 1980 honda's on the road like you do 190-70'ish-80'ish VW's or BMW's. Yet they're out-manufactured 4 to 1.
Title: Puny ricers
Post by: ra on November 15, 2002, 09:12:26 AM
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To be honest, I would say that they've surpassed German engineering. Yet, you still don't see as many 1980 honda's on the road like you do 190-70'ish-80'ish VW's or BMW's. Yet they're out-manufactured 4 to 1.

German cars have more of a loyal fan base, Japanese cars are just practical, there's no fanaticism.  Plus, anyone who's sunk so much money to keep a BMW on the road isn't going to part with it so easily.  :)

ra
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Post by: Ripsnort on November 15, 2002, 09:13:56 AM
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Originally posted by ra
German cars have more of a loyal fan base, Japanese cars are just practical, there's no fanaticism.  Plus, anyone who's sunk so much money to keep a BMW on the road isn't going to part with it so easily.  :)

ra


If you ever compare Dealer service hourly rate, and parts, honda's and BMW's are pennies apart. ;)

Edit,Above^-- that is at the Toyota, Lexus level, which is on par or exceeds BMW quality.
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Post by: gofaster on November 15, 2002, 09:25:31 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
To be honest, I would say that they've surpassed German engineering. Yet, you still don't see as many 1980 honda's on the road like you do 190-70'ish-80'ish VW's or BMW's. Yet they're out-manufactured 4 to 1.


That's because Hondas have no soul, no character.  They're the sensible cars that people buy to get around town.  The only people with long-term plans for their Hondas are (a) retirees and (b) people that plan on customzing the crap out of them anyway.  I had a '93 Honda that I was going to hop up, but the electricals were going out - it went brain-dead one time too many.
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Post by: Ripsnort on November 15, 2002, 09:32:37 AM
I like Honda's, test drove them and Acura's. Very nice.  Didn't fit my required niche  of "Mid-life crisis, fun just driving to the store on the curvy roads near my house, yet able to commute with decent gas milege". I get 30 mpg with 225 HP...works for me :)
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Post by: gofaster on November 15, 2002, 09:37:58 AM
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Hell.. my car barely has 2 litres of storage capacity... but I'd take in on the track at Sebring... or how about Sears Point?

Its not lightning fast... but if the track has curves... watch out:


You're right - the current base Mini has a ton of character but is a bit mild-mannered.  When the supercharged model comes out, those things are going to rule the SCCA meets at Sebring in September.  Once BMW can engineer a Mini motor with more pull, those things are going to be real screamers.

If it wasn't for the fact that right now they're high-demand/low-supply vehicles, I might actually look into getting one for sport.
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Post by: AKDejaVu on November 15, 2002, 09:55:15 AM
The supercharged models are out already.  In the U.S. they are either even or outselling the standards.  I got a standard because it is better for in-town driving and has an 11:1 compression ratio wheras the S is somewhere around 9:1.  The standards have more room to grow as far as HP goes... and should have a better torque curve when doing it.

AKDejaVu
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Post by: Greese on November 15, 2002, 10:46:51 AM
I actually like the way a standard looks better than the S model anyhow.  Trying to "get the wife to know how good she would look in one"...
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Post by: Bluefish on November 15, 2002, 11:08:12 AM
With all due respect, anyone who thinks Hondas have no soul has never driven an S2000. Perfect 50-50 weight distribution, 240 horsepower out of 2 liters, and 9000 r.p.m. redline.

It's noisy as hell, but I love my Stook!
Title: Puny ricers
Post by: gofaster on November 15, 2002, 01:19:10 PM
The S2000 should've been an Acura.  And the uniforms the techs wear at F1 races should say "Acura", too.  But hey, they're all Honda guys.  With the death of the Prelude, Honda really only sells the Civic, Accord, a minivan, and 2 SUVs.  The S2000 is horribly misplaced in the Honda selling line-up.

I like the design and engineering of the S2000 (too bad it looks like the BMW at first glance).  I'm not too keen on the black and red leather interiors, either.  Nice ride, though.
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Post by: Saurdaukar on November 15, 2002, 02:08:27 PM
Bring me your rice... and all will be forgiven...

(http://instant-g.com/LocalCars/Carrera77/AX3.jpg)
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Post by: Ripsnort on November 15, 2002, 02:13:45 PM
I'll trade ya wheels for the Auto-X course :D
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Post by: H. Godwineson on November 15, 2002, 02:30:42 PM
I'd say that all modern automobiles are over-engineered.  They're almost impossible to work on.  Do you remember the days when you could adjust your own carburetor, change the spark plugs and the oil filter and the gas filter and the belts and time everything without out having to take it back to the dealer and pay some "automotive engineer" $50 an hour to take it apart just to change the plugs?  Remember straight six and slant-six and v-8 engines that were anvil tough and user-friendly?

You can have all this modern crap.

Regards, Shuckins
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Post by: Wlfgng on November 15, 2002, 02:44:29 PM
not to mention having room enough for you AND your girlfriend
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Post by: funkedup on November 15, 2002, 04:19:20 PM
Hehehe Mazz I toasted one of those last week in my Subaru.  :)
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Post by: Vulcan on November 15, 2002, 04:30:37 PM
I like my cars like my planes... big'n'green'mean:
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Post by: Saurdaukar on November 15, 2002, 07:43:33 PM
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Originally posted by funkedup
Hehehe Mazz I toasted one of those last week in my Subaru.  :)



Then he wasnt trying.  :cool:

Nah seriously - I dunno what Subaru you drive - I assume a WRX?  If so - I think you could probably dust any N/A 911 built prior to 1984 in a "stop light" race stock for stock - but engage at your own peril any product of Stuttgart that says "Turbo" on the back.  We elitest P-car nuts dont participate in such low class demonstrations of testosterone, however... honest.  :D

Come to the track and well show you what "fast" really means.  :cool: