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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on November 15, 2002, 07:15:24 AM
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does this mean we can sue the car dealership that sold the person the car he was driving when he caused the accident?
Jury Orders Gun Distributor to Pay Victim's Widow (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,70406,00.html)
or does this only apply to guns :rolleyes:
lawyers - chasing the easy buck via stupid jurors - in this case six women.
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Cool! This could potentially lead to Rosie O'Donnell sueing the silverware manufacturers!
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The six-woman jury placed 45 percent of the blame on the school board for allowing Brazill on campus with a gun in his pocket to kill his favorite teacher. It said half the blame lies with McCray (gun owner) .
Ok, if I read this right ................
Blame for Murder
gun distrib = 5%
gun owner = 50%
school = 45%
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100%
So the murdering thug of a 13 year old, Brazill, has 0% blame for the murder of the 35 year old teacher ? Was the jury so stupid they couldn't even add?
Didn't he steal the gun, bring it to school, aim and pull the trigger? (all caught on video tape by the way - not like that matters)
How retarded as a society are we getting.... :rolleyes:
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they were probably taught math by my old football coach.
"I want you to go out there and give 110% today!!"
I know it was meant to fire us up before a game, but all I could think every time was "we're screwed, the coach can't even do math"
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I agree, let's sue the Ford dealers ... do we really need a reason? :D
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It was in Florida so what did you expect?
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this may surprise some but... I believe that if a person creates an attractive nuisance that he does share some of the blame in an injury or death... say leaving a riding mower running while you go inside to take a call on street full of children.... I don't know the exact circumstances of how the kid got the gun (they say it was in a can loaded where people knew it was there).... I would say that if you left your hunting rifle loaded and leaning on the suv while you went in and put stuff away you would be liable to some degree.
but.... If you take some sensible precaution like keeping firearms out of sight or behind locked doors fine... I don't think a 13 year old tho should be able to blame a gun owner for his pre meditated murder spree.
It seems the real focus (according to the lawyer) is to get "junk guns" out of circulation... why this is a good thing is beyond me.
Older pensioners probly can't afford 600 dollar glocks... Is gun ownership and safety dependant on price? are wealthy people more responsible than poor? Do cheap .25 autos kill better than 600 dollar desert eagles in 44 mag? Are they easier to kill with?
lazs
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Originally posted by Mighty1
It was in Florida so what did you expect?
Gawdamn right coast.
Heehee.
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"...say leaving a riding mower running while you go inside to take a call on street full of children...."
Let's say a 16 year-old punk stole the above mentioned riding mower and ran over an old lady killing her. Should the punk be punished for stealing the mower and killing someone with it? Yes.
Should the mower owner be liable because of his/her negligence in leaving the mower running and leaving it unattended? Probably.
Should the victim's family be able to sue Cub Cadet (the fictional mower manufacturer) for $44 million? I don't think so.
I agree with Lazs and think that the victim's family realised that they couldn't squeeze anything out of a 13 year-old innercity kid, so they had to find a company to sue.
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Isn't America wonderful? More lawyers than doctors, sue-sue-sue..no personal responsibility anymore for the most part.
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Originally posted by Eagler
The six-woman jury placed 45 percent of the blame on the school board for allowing Brazill on campus with a gun in his pocket to kill his favorite teacher. It said half the blame lies with McCray (gun owner) .
Ok, if I read this right ................
Blame for Murder
gun distrib = 5%
gun owner = 50%
school = 45%
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100%
So the murdering thug of a 13 year old, Brazill, has 0% blame for the murder of the 35 year old teacher ? Was the jury so stupid they couldn't even add?
Didn't he steal the gun, bring it to school, aim and pull the trigger? (all caught on video tape by the way - not like that matters)
How retarded as a society are we getting.... :rolleyes:
...well there is actually probably about 130% of total blame, as you have to include the attorney's commission
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Let's see...while we're at it...let's see what weelse we can place the blame on.
Let's blame GMC for building a SUV that ran over and killed an old lady. If GMC didn't build the truck, the lady wouldn't be dead!
Let's blame Swanson for making the TV dinners that got American fat, for it they didn't make the dinner...Americans wouldn't be fat!
Let's sue Xexrox for distrubuting the paper that a suicide note was written on, for if the guy can't write a note...he can't kill himself!
How the hell can the gun distrubuters be at fault? All they do is distribute guns to the gun shops, where people buy them. They aren't a fault for "not placing proper safty devices on the gun", the kid's to blame for removing the safety before shooting the gun.
This country cannot think to place the blame on a young child...for we all know children are innocent forever, right? It's the gun makers fault for making a weapon that the student somehow got ahold of and had it somehow discharge at the teacher. We can't bring ourselves to blame children for henious crimes.
We need to start placing the blame where it belongs. If a kid shoots a teacher...it's notvideo games' fault...it's not gun manufacturers' fault, it's the kid's fault. He pulled the trigger...he should be punished...
"A gun is simply a tool...it's a hard heart that kills..."
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Your a republican at heart Semper! ;) ya just don't know it yet. :D
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Because of all these reasons, this judgement will not stand up. It will be overturned on appeal. I'll bet $5 that it doesn't even make it past the Fla Supreme Ct, much less get to Federal Ct. The amount of precedence in other areas of the country will strangle this POS ruling before it goes too far.
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Originally posted by Dune
Because of all these reasons, this judgement will not stand up. It will be overturned on appeal. I'll bet $5 that it doesn't even make it past the Fla Supreme Ct, much less get to Federal Ct. The amount of precedence in other areas of the country will strangle this POS ruling before it goes too far.
I don't know about that ..
the defense lawyer was jumpin up and down on tv all happy as he feels he won with only 5% fee out of the original $75,000,000 the dead guys wife was pushing for....
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you ever turn on the tv and see that guy who yells a lot selling like 20 huge bowie knives for $100 or whatever? i think sometimes you can get knives and baseball cards all at the same time in some trailer-park bonanza offer....
what use could some skeletor lookin' knife possibly have other than for stabbing someone? i think it's irresponsible to flood the market with weapons but never the less...
i think you who say it's the responsibility of the person are correct and i agree that the manufacturers aren't the problem- education is in my opinion.
most of the people i know who have a lot of weapons usually have a pit bull or something too. feeling 'dangerous' and tough is important to them and to me that's an indictment of the education system. fix people and the crime rate will fix itself...
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Originally posted by Eagler
How retarded as a society are we getting.... :rolleyes:
No kidding... this same society voted for GW Bush.
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Christ Sandman, where the hell ya been all day...theres no "balance" in here without you, Thrawn or Midnight posting in here...just not the same! ;)
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Where is MT by the way? Haven't noticed him posting in a while.
Shuckins
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mrfish
dunno if its education or self-image/worth
they are insecure with themselves <- in one way shape or form, thus the need and this need sometimes turns into greed
you can be dumb as a rock and be very sure of yourself, happy with your life while on the other hand you can have a wall of diplomas and trophies and be one insecure twit
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Christ Sandman, where the hell ya been all day...theres no "balance" in here without you, Thrawn or Midnight posting in here...just not the same! ;)
I feel the love.
I just hope it doesn't leave a stain.
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Originally posted by Eagler
you can have a wall of diplomas and trophies and be one insecure twit
man that's the truth - but those twits are less likely to think having a gun and a sleeveless tee-shirt is going to get them the security they need - they're more likely to just be dorks and prattle on and on about something boring.
our society should put out more dorks i guess is what i'm saying....
ps- ommmmm :)
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I feel the love.
I just hope it doesn't leave a stain.
If it does, it'd be on my shoes and the back of your trousers. :D
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Careful... someone might get the impression that you're not pitching for the home team.