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Anti-War Leftists Exploit Children to Advance Cause
By Joseph J. Sabia
FrontPageMagazine.com | November 14, 2002
Unable to win the substantive arguments against President Bush’s War on Terrorism, the Left has set its sights on exploiting our nation’s most vulnerable citizens, the children. In America’s two most liberal cities—Ithaca, New York and Berkeley, California—liberals are force-feeding their anti-American propaganda to young children and insisting that they regurgitate these views to the local press.
The Ithaca Catholic Worker, a communist offshoot of Ithaca’s local Catholic Church, put a shy pre-teen girl named Leah Grady Sayvets in front of a local television camera and began asking her questions about the war on terrorism. The exchange between a middle-aged female reporter and the little girl went as follows:
Reporterette: "Let me make it easy. If someone does something violent to you, should you strike back at them?"
Leah: "No. I think you should talk to them and see what they think is wrong. What they have—what’s wrong..."
Reporterette: "So you think it's better to talk out problems?"
Leah: "Yeah."
Reporterette: "Do you think George Bush is acting like a bully on the playground."
Leah: [Giggles] "Yeah."
The Ithaca City School District has decided to enforce their moral relativist worldview on young children by giving first and second grade students grades on how well they "respect others of varying cultures." According to Cornell Review’s Ryan Horn, the grade for cultural tolerance appears before reading, writing, social studies, and science on students’ report cards. Through their new policy, Ithaca schoolteachers can penalize six-year-olds who express the view that President Bush is "good" and Saddam Hussein is "bad." Criticism of America will raise students’ grades because such criticism serves as a means of debunking the "myth" that Western culture is superior to Islamic fundamentalism.
Six-year-old girls are apparently too old for Berkeley anti-war activists.
According to a report by The California Patriot, leftists are using pre-schoolers to gain sympathy for their agenda. Congressman Barbara Lee (D-CA) and Berkeley Mayor Shirley Dean led several hundred demonstrators, including many local-area pre-school children, on a protest against the war in Iraq.
Many children spoke at this rally, yelling slogans like "No War on Children" and "Stop Fighting!" A member of the Berkeley College Republicans who was present at the event asked a six-year-old "demonstrator" named Celia whether she could name the leader of Iraq. According to the Patriot:
"Celia, stumped, turned to a friend and asked, ‘Is it a boy or a girl?’ Her friend, equally puzzled, responded, ‘I think it’s a boy.’"
Another little boy parroted his teacher’s earlier words, saying that the upcoming war in Iraq is about oil and "Bush wanting more land."
Similar exploitation occurred at Ramsey Clark’s anti-war rally in Washington, D.C., held a few weeks ago. During that event, several event organizers carried their children to the podium and instructed them to scream slogans like "No Blood for Oil." Other parents forced their kids to bang on drums while singing communist-era anti-war songs. Many of these young children wore shirts with peace signs and slogans that they could not have possibly comprehended.
Exploiting children for horrific political ends is nothing new. Yasser Arafat’s murderous Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) is well-known for teaching young Arabs that Jews are vermin and should be executed. National Socialist Germany devoted significant resources to the Hitler Youth program, which reprogrammed girls and boys into Nazi devotees. One of the central tenets of Soviet Communism was to separate children from the family unit and make them primarily loyal to the totalitarian state.
America’s cowardly anti-war Leftists, who endlessly claim to be interested in the welfare of America’s children, are now content to abuse kids to serve their political interests. This is how low they have sunk. For shame.
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Pre-schoolers protest possible war in Iraq
Allegations of exploitation arise
By Steve Sexton
They still believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus. They don’t know how to spell their last names or tie their own shoes. But they do know that “war is bad,” and that “Bush is a bully.”
The next generation of Berkeley peaceniks gathered on the steps of City Hall Tuesday to demonstrate their opposition to a pending war in Iraq- after school, of course. Armed with protest signs, microphones, and Harry Potter lunch-boxes, elementary and pre-school children demanded city leaders contact President Bush and halt his hawkish “war for oil.”
Two hundred students from Berkeley schools met local dignitaries, including Mayor Shirley Dean, city council members and a representative for Congresswoman Barbara Lee, D-Berkeley. Surrounding a ‘peace bell’ fashioned out of melted guns taken off of East Bay streets, children took to the microphone saying, “I don’t want people to die,” and, “we can’t keep killing each other. Then we will all die and suffer.”
Though most students at the rally could not even name Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, many seemed certain the pending U.S. led war in Iraq is about oil.
Celia, age 6, who could not spell her hyphenated last name, told the crowd President Bush “wants to make war because he wants oil.”
“What is so important about cars anyway,” she asked.
Later, when asked if she could name the president of Iraq, Celia, stumped, turned to a friend and asked, “Is it a boy or a girl?” Her friend, equally puzzled, responded, “I think it’s a boy.”
Noah, who declined to give his last name, also age six, asserted the looming war is not only about oil, but also “other things, like Bush wanting land.”
“It is like us squashing ants,” he said.
With city officials looking on, the children sang a song about “peace in the world-that means no fighting.” They held colorful homemade signs calling for peace and no war. One boy had a blue bumper sticker emblazoned on the front of his t-shirt that read: “War in Iraq: NO.” Another held a sign saying, “No War on Children.” With her mother holding a bullhorn, one child shouted a chant for peace across the City Hall plaza, as if taking cue from UC Berkeley students on Sproul Plaza.
The delegation of city leaders addressed the amassed children, telling them “we heard your message.” Berkeley City Councilmember Linda Maio said, “We hear it loud and clear. Bush needs a time-out.”
The elected leaders then signed a pledge to call President Bush and tell him “children want peace” and to urge him to “use words to resolve conflicts as we are learning.”
The rally was organized through several Berkeley pre-schools that pride themselves on their alternative curriculum. At New School, academics are set aside for physical activities like yoga. And at Berkwood Hedge, a private K-5 school with 115 students, the curriculum focuses largely on issues of social justice. This year’s theme at the school is peace. Students in after school programs at public elementary schools in the city also comprised the congregation of young peace protesters.
Sandy Morrill, mother of a seven year old at Berkwood Hedge, accompanied her son to the protest, saying it is important for the children to have a voice in politics.
“This is what they’ve been learning at school,” she said. “They have been taught about conflict resolution, and here they see it in action. The kids get to wrestle with bigger questions.”
Director of New School in Berkeley Susan Hagen said the children are “very concerned about what is going on in the world.” “They don’t want war. We teach them about talking, discussion, and negotiation.”
But Skyler Johnson, 5, hadn’t learned much about the conflict in Iraq. When he was asked who is the President of Iraq, he shrugged his shoulders and said, “My mom might know.” After she came over and gave him a little coaching, he was able to muster, “We don’t want war. Oil kills lots of people.”
The rally, which seemed a logical extension of classroom learning to organizers, struck Berkeley College Republicans Treasurer Andrea Irvin as exploiting the children for their parents’ political beliefs.
“It is incredible that these parents are using their children to advance their political agendas,” she said. “That these teachers are indoctrinating the young children is unconscionable. They are using the kids as puppets.”
Mayor Dean said she didn’t think the rally was exploitive though. She said the kids instinctively know about solving conflicts. “They know the best way to do it is to talk things out,” she said.
The rally ended after an hour with students ringing the peace bell and then marching back to their schools waving their signs.
BERKELEY ANTI WAR PROTEST PICTURE:
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We reap what we sow...
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ehehehehe cool...
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umh Grünherz, as far as i remember the Hitlerjugend was trained
to use weapons, and not how to discuss problems ;) am i wrong ?
Gh0stFT
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Grun is just angry 'cause their boy-scout group didn't get any weapons training :)
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Grun, Just get your gun and defend the american youth from those nasty lefties ! You go boy !
hehehe I'm tired... :p
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So it's ok for schools and other public officals to indoctorinate ignorant 5 year old mentally undeveloped children to support the adult's political causes and force them to participate in mass demonstrations....
Maybe I'm wierd but I find that idea shocking no matter what cause is being championed.
When I was 5 years old in communist Yugoslavia they made me recite songs how capitalism was evil, that the western countries were bad and to exhault the great glories of socialist labor. All in songs and games and other childish ways. And they gave me a red bandana and blue communist hat with a red star to wear, all officially done by the school and the teachers. However I dont think I was trained to use guns in that program, so it must be OK...
It's nice to see how the US left is consistent with their cold war comrades in the eastern block!
I cant belive anyone would defend such an outrage ghost!!!
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If we continue to allow public schools to be the only viable schooling then we deserve this crap. The left has allways used children to further their cause.. if fits with their 'touchy feely" debate style and basic dishonesty "end justifies the means" outlook. They would endorse ciggarettes (and do in movies all the time) if they thought it would get em an extra dime or drop of ink.
lazs
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Sorry... article loses all credibility by basically stating that to be against Bush's anti-terrorism campaign is to be anti-American.
It's crap.... complete alarmist roadkill.
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Understand I am pretty conservative by many standards, but consider...
What message should schools give elementary students? That they should always fight when provoked? We don't, and shouldn't, any more than parents should advocate violence to their children as a first recourse. The child is merely reflecting a societal belief about behavior during conflict- that is, you try to discuss the problem rationally first.
The real villain (if you need one) is the reporter asking the leading questions. The child was being guided to fit into the message the reporter had already decided to write. It would have been interesting to see the answer to the follow-up question "so, if you believe Bush is a 'bully on the playground', what do you suggest would be better in light of nearly 10 years of non-compliance with U.N. sanctions in a post Gulf War Iraq, and what do you believe is the impact of apparent American reticence to resort to military action to enforce those sanctions?" The answer would have been along the lines of "huh?"
The problem is asking children who haven't the depth of understanding of the issues to deliver a relevant opinion. Heck, I still have high schoolers that think Clinton just got a BJ, and seem quite surprised to learn he committed perjury and suborned perjury, despite being elected to office with the primary task of seeing to the enforcement of the laws of our country. Once you put it into the perspective of "hey, if you were suing the president and he lied, thereby denying your right to civil litigation, would you be upset?"
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One thing is to teach kids to be reasonable and to recject violence, thats fine- thats called morals and such simplistic arguments are fine and approprite to all child rearing. But to make it into political indoctrorination and trot them out to a pre planned demonstratration and force them to comment on international politics which can in no way undrstand? Thats bizzare, inappropriate and the tool of propagandists! Its wrong.
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Oh, I agree with that, and the parents of the kids should have ripped the principal a new one.
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When I went to school I was told the mission of education was to make us an educated examiner. In other words we were expected to be able to look at a subject or concept critically (not negatively) and examine it on it's merits not on the "correctness" of it's politics. This example, allegedly from Berkely, (big surprise there!) seems to show not education of a discerning populace but programming with set political phraseology instead.
There will always be a carry over of the parents political views to the children but it is NOT the place of an educational institution to dictate the political views to the student. Education is SUPPOSED to be neutral. Obviously, if thses stories are true, there is no objectivity here and these subjects are far beyond the level of understanding of 6 year olds.
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Anti-american look to be used like "against the party" in other country ...
You will soon have a lot asymptomatic schizophrenia in america ...:p
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You are either with us, or with them, comrade.
The individual is dead! Long live the Party Line! :eek:
- Dowding
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i think 5 yr olds should have the right to vote, then neo-liberals can control the country and saddam can kill more people with out worrying about bully bush beating him up.
peace in our time
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Any body pro-terrorism?...
Let's keep our eyes on the ball
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and in Bali
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That's better... how's that for nose art?
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Lets just shoot Berkley and Ithica with a flower cannon.
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Funny article Grun. Did you get that from the "Onion"?
(I'm sure you couldn't have taken that seriously)
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So you are saying Berkely pre-school and/or elementary school officials did not do this?
Do you think 5 year old kids should be used in political rallys and be indoctorinated with specific political slogans like that?
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Any body pro-terrorism?...
Let's keep our eyes on the ball
Being against Bush's war on terrorism doesn't mean you're pro-terrorism.
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Yep Sandman and those who dont support USA President Bush's war on terrorism show their anti terrorist leanings by supporting which other active campaign against terror? The UN? Bah, bunch of gutless frenchmen... The Al Qaeda war on US terror perhaps? I guess those are the ones holding "Bush is a Terrorist" signs at US anti war rallys... Who do they support to battle terror if not the USA? Everyone else would be doing squat without the USA a focusing power.
And by not supporting our governments attempts to punish the 911 attackers and their organization you are at least making moral excuses for those attacks...
Imagine:
"Yep I was all aginst the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor but I sure as hell opposed Roosevelt's war!!!!"
Right sandman, thats the argument you are making? :rolleyes:
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This forum is so nuanced.
I go here to see new colours.
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Hey Santa you done with school yet?
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thanks for the post GH
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First time I can recall agreeing with Grun from start to finish.
Fek, my world crumbles about me... I am agast.. lost in a sea of confusion.. I feel so used...
;)
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I'm sorry, but I can't believe that anyone would take that article that Grun posted seriously. I think it was hilarious.
The Ithaca City School District has decided to enforce their moral relativist worldview on young children by giving first and second grade students grades on how well they "respect others of varying cultures."
Oh my God! Next thing you know they'll be encouraging racial harmony!!!
cultural tolerance appears before reading, writing, social studies, and science on students’ report cards.
Its called ALPHABETICAL ORDER!!!!LOL
According to a report by The California Patriot, leftists are using pre-schoolers to gain sympathy for their agenda. Congressman Barbara Lee (D-CA) and Berkeley Mayor Shirley Dean led several hundred demonstrators, including many local-area pre-school children, on a protest against the war in Iraq.
Conservatives can afford nannies to look after their children. Liberals obviously can't. :rolleyes:
Can't anyone see the BS in this article? If they are PRE-School children, they AREN'T in the SCHOOL SYSTEM. Duh!
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Wow MT.... I take it you favor using children as propaganda tools, it explains a lot.
Listen you privliged left wing pop socialist pretender, it is not a good idea to indoctorinate kids as political tool. I know it must warm your heart to see a new generation of leftist radicals emerge but take it from somebody who was so brainwashed as kid in communist yugoslavia it does bad things to you...
Frankly I am very dissapointed in you MT. Yes we disagree on just about everything but thats fine, however your support of this hideous use of ignorant children as propaganda that you agree with is just sickening.... Really I feel sorry for you, you are sick, and that you think its funny or a clever little daycare scheme is even worse.
Go to hell MT... It wasnt long ago that kids were brainwashed by evil politically oriented mentors from a very young age to hold ideas they could in no way comprehend. And they were paraded around in propaganda efforts and made to shout slogans they did not understand. And they werent shouting at Bush or about oil they were shouting that your sons were monkeys...
Really sad that somebody in your position would in ANY WAY support the brainwashing of children for any political cause.
THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS
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Liberals caused WWII:
France agreed to drop from 500k to 200k in troop strength and to allow Germany parity at 200k.
Pasifist Liberals caused WWII and will be the death of us if we let them continue there trusting love-fest with our enimies
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Yep Sandman and those who dont support USA President Bush's war on terrorism show their anti terrorist leanings by supporting which other active campaign against terror? The UN? Bah, bunch of gutless frenchmen... The Al Qaeda war on US terror perhaps? I guess those are the ones holding "Bush is a Terrorist" signs at US anti war rallys... Who do they support to battle terror if not the USA? Everyone else would be doing squat without the USA a focusing power.
And by not supporting our governments attempts to punish the 911 attackers and their organization you are at least making moral excuses for those attacks...
Imagine:
"Yep I was all aginst the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor but I sure as hell opposed Roosevelt's war!!!!"
Right sandman, thats the argument you are making? :rolleyes:
Once again... I can simply sit back and watch while you argue both sides of a discussion or place boundaries on a dissenting opinion so that it fits within your black and white perception of the world.
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I agree with Grun....5 year olds should indoctrinated to Support the War against . That way when they join the Hitlerjugend they're pro-govt not anti govt, like all good HJ's were :p
of course 5 yr old would've had to wait till their 10 and join the Jungvolk first...hmmmmm maybe we should indoctrinate them with something else first?
(http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/hitleryouth/bugles.jpg)
Tronsky
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Hey Grun, almost done. Final exam is tomorrow.
squeak is that the two other group members really know toejame about the project. And I've had to make their presentations for them. naturally, they've stolen the juicy bits with the excuse that "you'll get by anyway". Frtunately the presentation is just part of the exam.
Am squeaking now. Graduation is the 27th :D.
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trotski
I dont dont understand where you get the idea that I think 5 year olds should be indoctorinated to support any specific political cause.
I clearly said:
"it is not a good idea to indoctorinate kids as political tool"
"Really sad that somebody in your position would in ANY WAY support the brainwashing of children for any political cause."
"THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS"
"But to make it into political indoctrorination and trot them out to a pre planned demonstratration and force them to comment on international politics which can in no way undrstand? Thats bizzare, inappropriate and the tool of propagandists! Its wrong"
"Maybe I'm wierd but I find that idea shocking no matter what cause is being championed."
Little kids should be taught to read, write, count add, multiply etc. There is no reason to use 5 year old kids in in any political demonstration or ralley. It is immoral to brainwash ignorant mentally undeveloped kids with any specific political agenda or cause. I know you are able to read trotski, so please find anywhere where I said kids should be indoctorinated for any specific political cause. Go ahead....
Sandman while I fully appreciate the purely intellectual and hypothetical subtleties of what you said the practical reality is that only the USA is leading the anti-terror war, which makes sense since we were attacked in an unprecedented way, so to oppose our governemts efforts to battle the terrorists is tantamount to letting them off. Otherwise tell us how the terrorist should be combated, and who would do the fighting, if you dont think our war against them is something you can support?
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the practical reality is that only the USA is leading the anti-terror war, which makes sense since we were attacked in an unprecedented way, so to oppose our governemts efforts to battle the terrorists is tantamount to letting them off.
may I briefly interject? I would like to offer an analysis of the paragraph quoted above:
In this small part of his post Grunherz asserts that opposing the government's actions against terrorism amounts to allowing those responsible to go unpunished.
Leaving aside whether there can even be such a thing as The War Against Terrorism, this is plainly wrong.
The question is whether Grunherz would support any efforts in the The War Against Terrorism.
Does he have a threshold of repulsion and disgust that his government must cross, in their efforts to crush terrorism, before he starts to protest? I would suggest that he does; even Grunherz would stop short of supporting carpet neutron bombing. Or maybe not.
This argument is in the same category of fallacious slogans like
"If you're not with me, you're against me"
"If you're not part of the solution then you are part of the problem"
It is based on some rather narrow reasoning; it presupposes that there are always only two options, and that they are always in diametrical opposition.
It's an oversimplification to say the least
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There is room for disagreement on tactics and such. Thats fine. But if anyone says they are against us fighting back alltogether, against our eternal basic human right to persecute this war of self defense then they are wrong and are garbage amazinhunk USA haters, plain and simple... They are worse in fact than the terrorists, at least the Al Qaeda have the guts to put their lives on the line (yes of course I know they want to die in jihad, but they are still human) and try and fight us somewhat openly...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
There is room for disagreement on tactics and such. Thats fine. But if anyone says they are against us fighting back alltogether, against our eternal basic human right to persecute this war of self defense then they are wrong and are garbage amazinhunk USA haters, plain and simple... They are worse in fact than the terrorists, at least the Al Qaeda have the guts to put their lives on the line (yes of course I know they want to die in jihad, but they are still human) and try and fight us somewhat openly...
You're not listening.
...and you did it again:
then they are wrong and are garbage amazinhunk USA haters, plain and simple...
To be against Bush's "War on Terrorism" is not to be pro-terrorism nor is it to be against any and all war against terrorist organizations.
Nevertheless... IMNSHO, Bush's "War on Terrorism" is silly. There is no clearly defined enemy and no clearly defined exit strategy. It is simply a war without end... ever.
War on Al-Qaeda... I'm all for that.
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You are not reading what I said.
I clearly said it was OK to disagree on on tactics.
I clearly defined the group of people who I think are:
"then they are wrong and are garbage amazinhunk USA haters, plain and simple..."
It's a very specific criticism I have towards a specific group of far far left radicals who genuinley think the USA has no right to defend itself and attack the people responsible for 911.
OK?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
It's a very specific criticism I have towards a specific group of far far left radicals who genuinley think the USA has no right to defend itself and attack the people responsible for 911.
OK?
Fine. Who are we speaking of? I'm pretty sure this far far left radical doesn't swim in these waters.
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You want it to be directed at somebody on this board, dont ya? :D
But its not, not really anyway untill I see somebody come out and say we dont have the right to strike back and defend ourselves at all.
Actually the only reason I brought the far far leftists up was to make a clear distinction between my personal concern about those who are not supporting our efforts to my liking (we disagree) and my utter hatred and contempt to those who oppose them outright ( I want them dead) - because you went ahead and just made up your mind that both were the same group and that I was lumping everyone who I disagree with in that USA hating category.
OK?
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Alrighty then... just let us know when the left you're talking about and or arguing with is the same left that posts here.
:D
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
trotski
I dont dont understand where you get the idea that I think 5 year olds should be indoctorinated to support any specific political cause.
I clearly said:
"it is not a good idea to indoctorinate kids as political tool"
"Really sad that somebody in your position would in ANY WAY support the brainwashing of children for any political cause."
"THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS"
"But to make it into political indoctrorination and trot them out to a pre planned demonstratration and force them to comment on international politics which can in no way undrstand? Thats bizzare, inappropriate and the tool of propagandists! Its wrong"
"Maybe I'm wierd but I find that idea shocking no matter what cause is being championed."
Little kids should be taught to read, write, count add, multiply etc. There is no reason to use 5 year old kids in in any political demonstration or ralley. It is immoral to brainwash ignorant mentally undeveloped kids with any specific political agenda or cause. I know you are able to read trotski, so please find anywhere where I said kids should be indoctorinated for any specific political cause. Go ahead....
Ahhhh sometimes sarcasm is so wasted on some.....perhaps I should be a little less subtle next time Gunherpes
Tronsky
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
There is room for disagreement on tactics and such. Thats fine. But if anyone says they are against us fighting back alltogether, against our eternal basic human right to persecute this war of self defense then they are wrong and are garbage amazinhunk USA haters, plain and simple... They are worse in fact than the terrorists, at least the Al Qaeda have the guts to put their lives on the line (yes of course I know they want to die in jihad, but they are still human) and try and fight us somewhat openly...
Now I'm no analyst, but wouldn't the above (in bold) qualify as a Freudian Slip?
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
You're not listening.
...and you did it again:
To be against Bush's "War on Terrorism" is not to be pro-terrorism nor is it to be against any and all war against terrorist organizations.
Nevertheless... IMNSHO, Bush's "War on Terrorism" is silly. There is no clearly defined enemy and no clearly defined exit strategy. It is simply a war without end... ever.
War on Al-Qaeda... I'm all for that.
Howdy Sandman.
No acutaly I think the "War On Terrorism" is a valid discription. Why? Well... Terrorism is now something seen as nation/civilization threatening. This "War" is basicly an attempt to find a method of combating ALL terrorism of this type and elimnating it as well. Basicly its a war on "INTERNATIONAL" terrorism.
xBAT
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Rephrase it and see if it sounds like a good sound bite for the nightly news...
The War Against Asymmetric Warfare
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Wow MT.... I take it you favor using children as propaganda tools, it explains a lot.
Listen you privliged left wing pop socialist pretender, it is not a good idea to indoctorinate kids as political tool. I know it must warm your heart to see a new generation of leftist radicals emerge but take it from somebody who was so brainwashed as kid in communist yugoslavia it does bad things to you...
Frankly I am very dissapointed in you MT. Yes we disagree on just about everything but thats fine, however your support of this hideous use of ignorant children as propaganda that you agree with is just sickening.... Really I feel sorry for you, you are sick, and that you think its funny or a clever little daycare scheme is even worse.
Go to hell MT... It wasnt long ago that kids were brainwashed by evil politically oriented mentors from a very young age to hold ideas they could in no way comprehend. And they were paraded around in propaganda efforts and made to shout slogans they did not understand. And they werent shouting at Bush or about oil they were shouting that your sons were monkeys...
Really sad that somebody in your position would in ANY WAY support the brainwashing of children for any political cause.
THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS
It would seem that I hit a nerve or something.
Um, Groinhurts. If you were so indoctrinated during your Yugo-youth then how did you turn into such a raving reactionary lunatic? Oh, I'm sorry, was I getting personal?
Kind of like being called "sick" or being told to "go to hell".
Grow up little boy.
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Damn right you hit a nerve, you have no idea what kind of fanatics children become when everyone around them feeds them the same specific sloghans and messages. And you have the attituude that its just a fun socially conscious form of daycare.
I am angry MT. I am angry when I see things done to people here as I saw them done back there and the things that led to our civil war.
If you examine the things that react to most strongly they are always:
Communism/Socialism
Race whining issues
People not working together
Never forgetting the past
Political brainwashing
Basic dishonesty
UN cowardice/indifference
All these things ruined my country, they diretly led to the war or made it worse. Personally I think they ruined my childhood and killed members of my family and blew up the homes I grew up in, my mother was almost decapitated by a mortar shell that landed in the yard I used to play nin every day. Frankly I dont expect you an indifferent intellectual type always livng in comfort and safety to understand that. And actually I hope you stay that way I hope none of that happends to you lor your kids.
And no bounder I just dont care to spell chek anything I write here.. :D