Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Krusher on November 18, 2002, 11:37:44 AM
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/18/national/main529699.shtml
seatbelts are a good idea !
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I would love to know exactly what the pilot was thinking at exactly this point, "when he heard a thump and saw the man's feet and legs leaving the airplane".
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Was he hurt?
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How do you fall out of a plane, even in a turn? He must have jumped, or maybe he was messing around with the pilot's wife.
ra
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Kinda wonder what happened. Was the door not latched? Did the victim open the door? Raises questions about exactly what happened...
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ra: How do you fall out of a plane, even in a turn? He must have jumped...
Ever heard of a G-force? When you make turn in a car, everybody seems to be pulled "outward" by inertia? same in a plane.
miko
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GO JAGUARS!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Was he hurt?
I bet yah, hes dead, but he could of survived the fall...We all know that....
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Originally posted by miko2d
ra: How do you fall out of a plane, even in a turn? He must have jumped...
Ever heard of a G-force? When you make turn in a car, everybody seems to be pulled "outward" by inertia? same in a plane.
miko
Not quite, the plane must roll to turn, a car doesn't. In a coordinated turn your "gravity" is pulling you straight down to the bottom of the plane not stright down to the ground.
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"The pilot told investigators that both men were strapped in when the small trainer aircraft took off from the airport."
Investigator: Were you both buckled in prior to the flight?
Pilot: Yes.
Investigator: How do you know?
Pilot: Er, um, well, I belted him in myself. Yeah, that's it! Yeah, I belted him in myself."
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Ever heard of a G-force?
Ever flown a plane?
Pilot: Er, um, well, I belted him in myself. Yeah, that's it! Yeah, I belted him in myself."
Actually, all he would have to do is glance over at the other guy's seatbelt, the 152 has side-by-side seating. It should be part of his pre-takeoff checklist. Something's fishy.
ra
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Originally posted by ra
Something's fishy.
ra
I'll say...it sounds like a little Bre-Ex "out of the helicopter you go" action.
I still kick myself for not selling Bre-Ex "short" the day after that was reported.
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some people just don't like seat belts , they are too "restrictive" and "uncomfortable".
if some one dosn't want to use the seat belt in my car, i point to the windshield and tell them i don't care if they get hurt , but the windshield cost $200 to replace.
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lol john. that is my thoughts exactly.
ComradII
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Belts have nothing to do with it. People don't fall out of airplanes under normal circumstances, any more than they fall out of cars.
ra
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they probably threw him out. must have been annoying.
ComradII
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Originally posted by Hawklore
GO JAGUARS!
hawk u live in jax?
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Originally posted by john9001
some people just don't like seat belts , they are too "restrictive" and "uncomfortable".
if some one dosn't want to use the seat belt in my car, i point to the windshield and tell them i don't care if they get hurt , but the windshield cost $200 to replace.
you dont wear seatbelts in a cessna becuase of falling out or through the windshield
my experience is that i would have permanent spinal cord injury from turbulence if i hadn't had my seatbelt keeping me from hitting the roof
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I've never been in a 152, but if they're anything like a 172... Once you're inside, you have to move the seats pretty far up to sit within pedal distance (I'm 6' and I have to). Once the seats are forward, it's very hard to intentionally climb out of the aircraft, never mind fall.
Something is definitely fishy...
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man apparently jumped or fell from
jumped ?
unspecified medical condition
drugs anybody ?
something ain't right in Oz....
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I can just imagine the guy trying to flap his arms and fly as he fell 9000 feet.
J_A_B
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are you certain it wouldn't have been a recoverable head injury?
Originally posted by moose
my experience is that i would have permanent spinal cord injury from turbulence if i hadn't had my seatbelt keeping me from hitting the roof
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The plane could have been a 152 Aerobat....the doors are removable. :p
Thorns
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lol, poor dummy!
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http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021119-113549-1835r
It looks like he jumped but.....could this guy have had a chute and faked his death?
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Thrawn: ... In a coordinated turn your "gravity" is pulling you straight down to the bottom of the plane not stright down to the ground.
Right - in a coordinated turn... The pilot probably stomped the pedal a bit too hard.
ra: Ever flown a plane?
I surely did. If the ball is not centered due to rudder abuse, one feels definite sidewise pull. If you push the stick down even a bit, the person's weight - and the traction of one's butt to the seat is reduced enough to allow slippage.
john9001: if some one dosn't want to use the seat belt in my car, i point to the windshield and tell them i don't care if they get hurt
Isn't that illegal in our nanny society? As a driver you may be saddled with responcibility for the passenger in some jurisdictions. If your passenger ever flies through the window, this post, if found, may be the evidence!
miko
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Originally posted by miko2d
Ever heard of a G-force? When you make turn in a car, everybody seems to be pulled "outward" by inertia? same in a plane.
miko
Not really Miko, because contrary to a car, the plane banks so your are more pushed on your seat rather than "lateraly". Bacause the car cannot bank and stays in the horizontal plan, then the centrigugal force pushes you toward the "outside turn door".
For the non pilots, you have to know two things:
(1) doors on C150/C152s are not with a latch that you turn 90 degrees like in the biggers Cessnas or pipers or airlines. With the age (not uncomon to fly Cessnas up to the 1960s) the door can be closed but opened by a shoulder bump.
(2) The use of the seat belt is mandatory by the pilot only. As a passenger, you legally should wear it in takeoff/landing/taxi phases. On top of the law, seen a lot of old timers, who after a lunch, don't fasten their belts for comfort.
Lastly, toejam happens. I remember forgetting to attach my seat belt for whatever reason as a flight instrcutor, going on a cross country and naping. I was laying by the door and the door opened. :D Heart pumping wake up hehehe.
9,000ft? Dammmm that's a loooooooong climb to practice steep turns.