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Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: Löwe on November 19, 2002, 10:34:25 PM
Wow.
I have never seen so much stick stiring and vulching and  general crap in my life. As much as we argue in here at times, I'd rather fly with or against you guys any day than see that again. I could not believe the level of art some stick stirer's have achieved.
Call it Mini MA all you want Shane, but last showed me there is a big difference.;) I hope MA never breaks again. It's amazing how the whole atmosphere changed in just minutes
all you CT folks.
Title: Re: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: Shane on November 19, 2002, 10:39:53 PM
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Originally posted by Löwe
Wow.
I have never seen so much stick stiring and vulching and  general crap in my life. As much as we argue in here at times, I'd rather fly with or against you guys any day than see that again. I could not believe the level of art some stick stirer's have achieved.
Call it Mini MA all you want Shane, but last showed me there is a big difference.;) I hope MA never breaks again. It's amazing how the whole atmosphere changed in just minutes
all you CT folks.


lol... mini-ma means there's a similar %... there are plenty in MA who *don't* stick-stir... just as there are a few in CT who do fish-flop around.

goes for other *types* as well... i happen to be the channel 1 mouthy-type % in CT, but at least i generally back it up.  eskimo is the rank-potato %...  yanno, so on and so forth.

:D
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: Löwe on November 19, 2002, 10:58:38 PM
HEHEHE.
Like it or not Shane your growing on us. I'm actually laughing at your stuff now, instead of being pissed.:D
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: brady on November 20, 2002, 12:03:14 AM
Ya that was a big influx, the CT had like 60 people in their before the MA went down, then went to almost 100. That and the Pork the Base and win the war set up in thier contributed to this.
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: Squire on November 20, 2002, 12:13:34 AM
It was nice to see the IJ flying higher a lot more often, and in strength. The Ki-61 and A6M5 can be dangerous when flown like that. I spent the whole night looking back over my shoulder, and snapping off bursts while trying to stay fast in my F6F. It was fun.
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: CurtissP-6EHawk on November 20, 2002, 01:08:46 AM
I for one have always disliked field captures in the CT, Even thogh this was one of the worse MA invasions I have seen, at least when the fields closed they had to reposition the cv to take the fight else where. All planes being alike also made it more of a CT!  

I was actually scared that the allies would close "ten" bases tonight but they didnt!!!! I didnt see very many, over three kill sorties by allies either (mostly due to the furballing)

This has been, even with a MA invasion, been the best CT set-upI have seen.

Hawk <---humbly re-enters AH

CT Squads!!!!
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: Karnak on November 20, 2002, 01:20:34 AM
I had two CTDs in two hours in the CT tonight.

I never get CTDs.

:(
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: brady on November 20, 2002, 01:25:53 AM
Yes by my reckoning the Alies closed 8 bases tonight, and would of closed more, had they stayed focused to that end, instead a lot of furbaling occured. and When I loged off no US Cv had been sunk, one CA went down but no CV, I played till almost 11 pacific.
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: Buzzbait on November 20, 2002, 04:43:32 AM
Salute Hawk

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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
I for one have always disliked field captures in the CT, Even thogh this was one of the worse MA invasions I have seen, at least when the fields closed they had to reposition the cv to take the fight else where. All planes being alike also made it more of a CT!  

I was actually scared that the allies would close "ten" bases tonight but they didnt!!!! I didnt see very many, over three kill sorties by allies either (mostly due to the furballing)

This has been, even with a MA invasion, been the best CT set-upI have seen.

Hawk <---humbly re-enters AH

CT Squads!!!!


You have just contradicted everything you said in your Friday night post that spewed all over this same setup.

Maybe next time you will engage the brain before opening your mouth?   ;)

                                      Buzzbait
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: Löwe on November 20, 2002, 08:08:23 AM
Hawks in good shape.  A lot of the guys flying Japanese in these things get surley. I know I did. I Don't think it's a case of engaging the brain before the mouth. I think it's more fly it a few times, and see how it goes, before you comment. Actually I was suprised by this one myself, I was thinking it was just going to be another week of Slap The Jap. The guys who are flying Japanese are doing better at working together. VF-27, and 880 FAA, are great sticks, and when they get in their signature rides, they are even more effective, and pumped up for the fight. Those of us flying Japanese, just got to keep working together to get better. The important thing is THE HAWK FLY'S AGAIN:)
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: ergRTC on November 20, 2002, 09:29:42 AM
I love seeing zeros at 25k.  Just means they cant turn when they dive on me at 20k!

This has been quite a success.  I loved the whole ammo bunker strat keeping our cvs alive.  

Thanks god I was not around for the ma crash.  I hate it when that happens.  Would have loved to see there comments though.
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: Eagler on November 20, 2002, 10:13:26 AM
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Originally posted by brady
.............. When I loged off no US Cv had been sunk, one CA went down but no CV, I played till almost 11 pacific.


maybe cause you kept blastin the shore batteries from your ghost ship? :)
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: SilverFox on November 20, 2002, 11:33:35 AM
OK, I'm not looking for flames here, this is an honest, on topic question :)

What are the major differences between the CT and MA.  The Combat theater sounds like something I might be interested in, but I thought I would ask for some opinions.

:rolleyes: Oh, no, did I ask for opinions?


edit was inserting a not right after I'm  :D
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: keyapaha on November 20, 2002, 11:47:10 AM
The CT is more of a historical plane vs plane match up nothing nore nothing less the CM'S do there best with what planes HTC has supplied us with to make interesting historical setups that run for one week only then change.

   If you have already flown in the CT I hoped you enjoyed it if you have not try it you might like it.
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: oboe on November 20, 2002, 11:51:30 AM
MA = 3 sides, each has all planes all the time, while
CT  = 2 sides (Axis v Allies) each has the actual planeset available to its side for the setting represented. (or our best approximation given the planeset limitations).

CT focuses on specific times and places (Tunisia 1942, Phillippines 1944, Battle of Britain 1940, Germany 1944, etc) using the actual terrain (ne'er a pizza map, ever) and historic plane matchups.  Each setting lasts one week, changed every Friday by a CT staffer.

The CT employs reduced icon settings to make identifying threats more difficult and making bounces possible.  (Enemy plane's icons appear at 3.0 and less, friendly icons at 6.0).

Many fewer pilots in the CT - best time to get on 8-10 CST, where you can find 20-50 players, depending on the popularity of the setting.

Pilots of both sides often tend to be more friendly and helpful than in the MA.   I rarely resort to squelching channel 1.

We would love to have you fly with us in the CT!
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: ergRTC on November 20, 2002, 11:52:00 AM
Major differences?

Axis vs. Allies

Rotating plane and map set every week.  We get all sorts of great stuff including new skins once in a while.

Friendly atmosphere (as long as shane, hawk and odee behave and the MA isnt down) ;)

No winners and losers as far as country goes.  If somebody 'resets' the map, the arena tends to crash and everybody has to go home for  a few hours.  Base capture is rarely the point and in fact tends to be looked down on.  

Tuesdays and Thursdays tend to be slightly organized and people often try to recreate historical type encounters.  Last really great example of this was probably Big Week map, but we are always trying new stuff.  I hope the IJN try to put together some kind of carrier hunt thursday, its just the val is too slow and useless against an f6f, but I digress.

We also discuss what kind of maps we would like to see and what kind of matchups.

Numbers tend to be 50 or less often 20 or less.  This leads to more 1 on 1 type battles.  People will argue this, but that is what I see.  

The best part of it that I see is the plane matchups.  It is much easier to use planes the way there were historically if you are not running into la7s with your 109e.
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: CurtissP-6EHawk on November 20, 2002, 02:21:30 PM
buzz, I did speak before I thunkded.:( ..and is why I deleted that post. Brady copied and reposted it and is why I was angry with him. Go back and re-read my reasons for deleting the post and for what I saw when I initialy entered the CT that night. Maybe it help you understand my view.

The only reason I started capturing fields in the BOB a few weeks ago was because I dislike flying LW and it was the only thing I enjoyed doing at that time. It didnt make it right, (doing something I disagree with). It was also during those captures that "capture" was disabled, something I have posted many many times that nearly if not all folks disagreed with me. It seems to be working out fine, doesnt it?

Fighting the F6F takes and organized attack to keep from getting killed at D700 or killed at all and is not something I am use to.  As I said before, its time to SHUT UP and change tactics and deal with it and be glad we have a CT.

I didnt see not the first KI67 or Val. go after the CVs, Im sure they did, I just didnt see any....I wonder why?




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.............. When I loged off no US Cv had been sunk, one CA went down but no CV, I played till almost 11 pacific


I know that the Checkertails attacked the CV once with several hits of which all but two hits were unconfirmed hits.  Plus I was able to hit the same CV with ONE round from a bunker gun at about D22.6. The CVs are very tuff for us IJN/A to sink due to thier tuffness and barrage of firepower. We caint carry 2000lbs of bombs like some allied fighters can. I dont recall what the F6F carries but I would guess its more than two 250kg bombs. Even though we can sink the Distroyer and eliminate fighters witha sunk CV, for some reason YOU can still man guns from a Ghost ship...nice bug...and close a field!

I didnt realize that the allies did close eight fields. Can you imagine what it would have been like with B-17s, P-51s, F4Us, La-5s, etc etc etc, and base captures? I think the Disabled Base capture caused many to become discouraged and switch to fighters (furballing etc). I think it is a lot harder for axis to sink a ship than for allies to close a base. However once a CV is sunk, it stays sunk.

THERE IS NO BASE CAPTURE so why ALLOW yourself to get VULCHED. Dont give them an easy kill. I saw ONE GUY LAND AN  EIGHT KILL SORTIE  FROM VUCHING. Think it was something like "Frenchy"???? Never saw him in CT before.

Can you not now see the diffrence between the MA and CT?


I have returned with a diffrent attitude...and this set-up does help.

Thanks CMs, Lowe, 880, VF-27 and the 27th Sentai and other CT flyers
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: brady on November 20, 2002, 02:31:51 PM
Frenchy is a good stick, know him for years, he flys in the CT every now and then.
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: CurtissP-6EHawk on November 20, 2002, 02:38:25 PM
Yes he is. I actually avoided him close to the CV (trying to bomb CV) but was surprised to see such a good stick vulching with two other F6Fs, however, if the guys are gonna take off-hmmmm...I didnt! Caint vulch unless there is something to vulch!!!!! I lost interest and logged.
Title: re: CT vs MA Question
Post by: SilverFox on November 20, 2002, 04:34:52 PM
:cool:  Well, thanks for the replys.  Sounds like the CT is why I fly scenarios... without all the scenario baggage :)  I have always advocated a historical plane set, and I was hoping that would be among the answers.  

I fly with a great bunch of guys in the MA and some events, but I think I'll be trying this out.   It just seems more sim and less game.  

(http://www.jasnetworks.net/silverfox/AH_Images/Small_SilverFox.jpg)

Keep em level.
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: Jester on November 22, 2002, 01:39:47 PM
Hey Silver Fox,
Come over and fly the CT, you won't be sorry.
If you come independent of your squad to the CT hook up with one of the squads like VF-27, 880 FAA, 27th Sentai or ours, the 325th FG depending on what you like to fly. All are class acts and will make your flying experience even better.

! Hope to see you in the CT soon.
Title: Do you really want more people in CT?
Post by: SilverFox on November 24, 2002, 09:24:44 AM
Well, thanks for the invite.  Who knows what the future brings ;)

I'll be popping in from time to time, as I gradually shift my focus.  After getting my tail shot off a couple of times by those Italian birds :eek:  that I am coming to respect.  I can say that I do like the historical plane set aspect most of all.

You will more often than not find me in a fighter.