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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: brady on November 20, 2002, 05:40:34 AM
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10Bears has made a great new map for us, Greece and the Agean, a New Map is always great fun and thanks to him we will have many battles on this new map.
This Friday we will creat the feal as best we can, for the invashion of Greece, unfortunatly we do not have all the planese that were their, but using the Plane set listed bellow we can hopefully creat the feal for the theater:
Axis:
Bf-109E
Bf-110C-4
MC. 202
JU-88
C 47
All GV's except the Osty.
Allies:
P40E
Huricane MK I
Boston
C 47
All GV's except Osty.
No CV flight op's will be enabled, PT's LVT's and Ship guns will be available. PT's will be available from the approparate fields.
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Looks good, can't wait to see 10bears terrain.
What planes are missing?
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This is one of my favorite plane match-ups, P40 v. 202. Should be kewl.
- oldman
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Alright, the new 325th gets one of it's historical rides. Yippe:D
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cool... tunsia with a different terrain and without the special skins?
:cool:
how about finding a setup that showcases the 109g2/g6 and/or 205 or 51b or p4711/25?
italy? summer/fall/winter '43/44?
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Still with ya on that one Shane
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you will never have a problem getting me in a p40, but I am with lowe and shane, could the next map be a p47 gig?
Cant wait to see the new map/
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anything to get out of those japs planes and the big blue barrels :)
thanks CT
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Nice map choice (G)
Make history Bradys Friendly midair collisions turned on :).. No one's ever done it before you'd be the first :).
Shane, Wotan sent me his, Samm's, and Gato's skins for Greece take a look at the 1104B .... nice!..
Maybe you guys will figure out what to do with Turkey.. the 3rd country. I was thinking, why not use it as a third country to mix it up a little bit.. say Japanese or Russian. No, even better the Americans.. with their newly skinned f4f hehe.
Nobody sent me any racing skins.. no tricked out ponies... no dragon faced ME262 ah bummer.
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Shane, for what it's worth, someone on the CM Terrain team is/was working on terrain representing the Po Valley in Italy. That will feature exactly the planes you mention, as well as P-40E's and whatever English rides were present during the Allies march up the Boot of Italy. Guess I'll have to check in with them and see when that terrain's available.
Sabre
CT Staff
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Originally posted by Sabre
Shane, for what it's worth, someone on the CM Terrain team is/was working on terrain representing the Po Valley in Italy. That will feature exactly the planes you mention, as well as P-40E's and whatever English rides were present during the Allies march up the Boot of Italy. Guess I'll have to check in with them and see when that terrain's available.
Sabre
CT Staff
great, this is one i'll be looking forwards to, for a very simple reason that has to do with a real-life pilot who flew jugs there in ground attack.
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Very exciting. Can someone please deinstall the "Acme Me-110 tail spin mechanism" from my 110, I know it was funny the first 8 times, but really, a joke is a joke and it is over, you know I'm not mechanically inclined enough to remove it myself. Come on fellers, please? Please fix my 110?
Sakai
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Sakai, I've never spun an ME-110 so I couldn't help you with a solution. But do you use combat trim (wonder if CT effects the 110 like it does the P-38) and any chance you have a film when this happens?
Oed
No film sadly, I threw up watching the world spin through my camera as I tried to tape off the 'puter screen. How all you guys get those nifty films is beyond me, you all have very steady camera hands.
I use combat trim, it's the only trim I ever get.
Should I cut it out? Will it make me go blind?
Sakai
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You may be surprised but P-47s and ground attacks is something I havent done since WarBirds 1.xx and my 350TH F.G. days, Caint wait!!
Also, C-47 available, this mean base capture back on for invasions?
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
You may be surprised but P-47s and ground attacks is something I havent done since WarBirds 1.xx and my 350TH F.G. days, Caint wait!!
Also, C-47 available, this mean base capture back on for invasions?
Be prepared to watch Oldman drool giddily when he is informed that Jugs will be available. You'll be able to see him bouncing up and down in his cockpit like an 8 year old on a circus pony.
Oh this could be a long one.
Sakai
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Originally posted by Sabre
Shane, for what it's worth, someone on the CM Terrain team is/was working on terrain representing the Po Valley in Italy. That will feature exactly the planes you mention, as well as P-40E's and whatever English rides were present during the Allies march up the Boot of Italy. Guess I'll have to check in with them and see when that terrain's available.
Sabre
CT Staff
Wasn't there a US Spit Mk V group in Italy? We don't have an early enough P-38 do we?
Sakai
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Just keep pluggin CT guys. We're all behind you, even though each of us has favorites we want to see. It's almost like Christmas every week you get new rides. :D
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The P-38L could be included in a 1944 setup, its pretty much identical to a P-38J-25. I would add it simply for variety in some setups, it certainly isnt any better than a P-51B as a fighter.
The USAAF 31st FG flew Spitfire IXs in Italy before going to P-51s.
Again, this all depends on what time frame you aim for, but Italy would be fun to be sure.
Later.
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Originally posted by Sakai
No film sadly, I threw up watching the world spin through my camera as I tried to tape off the 'puter screen. How all you guys get those nifty films is beyond me, you all have very steady camera hands.
I use combat trim, it's the only trim I ever get.
Should I cut it out? Will it make me go blind?
Sakai
when you're using the external film viewer, check the box
"ignore recorded views" when the film starts - that will stop the film from following your view changes as you made them while filming. then you can use external/chase/fixed views to be outside your plane and selecting "pan" will allow you to pan your perspective. use [ and ] keys to zoom in/out. also you can select "trails" which will start a trail as your plane moves along. and of course selecting "icon" will show the plane's icons (except your own).
this is with the external (stand alone) film viewer ahfilm.exe that you have. there's an "in game viewer" the "film" bar on the AH splash screen that sends you to a similiar, yet less powerful film viewer. it is, however, easier and better for snapping screenshots from.
i'd suggest using combat trim for a month or 2 and if you don't like it, you can always disable it. personally i use it.
and yes, you should stop with the RR weenie yank stick to spine stuff.
:D
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Originally posted by Sakai
Be prepared to watch Oldman drool giddily when he is informed that Jugs will be available. You'll be able to see him bouncing up and down in his cockpit like an 8 year old on a circus pony.
Oh this could be a long one.
Heh heh. Unhappily, it's almost certain that I'll end up flying Axis to balance out the sides.
Happily, I like the 202.
- oldman (who is beginning to drool at the oddest times)
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Yes! Thank you!:)
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Originally posted by Sabre
Shane, for what it's worth, someone on the CM Terrain team is/was working on terrain representing the Po Valley in Italy. That will feature exactly the planes you mention, as well as P-40E's and whatever English rides were present during the Allies march up the Boot of Italy. Guess I'll have to check in with them and see when that terrain's available.
Sabre
CT Staff
The USAAF flew some Spit IXs at that time and place. Maybe we could get a USAAF skin for the Spitfire Mk IX?
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Can we have the Spit XIV for balance?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Can we have the Spit XIV for balance?
I'd rather have the Me410s the Luftwaffe was flying there.
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With c202 in this setup we simply must have the Spitfire XIV, if they put in the Me410 I think we would have a solid case to ask for a Hawker Hunter to balance that monster...
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:rolleyes:
Pretty soon we'll have a B52 and an F18 to counter it lol :D
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What on earth are you guys talking about? spit 9 to balance the 202? Is that supposed to be some stinky bait?
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Spit 9? How dare you say we should put up with such an inferior airplane when they get the c202. The Spit XIV or I wont even show up!!!!
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Ahh spit 14, I see.
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Good lord Erg, all that isn't your signature is it? hehe. :)
As for the setup, it looks fine. I just thought folks were musing about possible 43/44 Agean setups for later.
Looking forward to Agean 1941, even if I dont get my FAA skinned Martlet this time around .
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hehe what signature?
you mean this?
Thought I would try the political sig...
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Come the millennium, month 12, In the home of greatest power, The village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the leader.
Nostradamus 1555 AD
The following are the verbatim utterances of George W. Bush.
"Will the highways on the Internet become more few?"
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
"We ought to make the pie higher."
Texas: "the great sstate of Taxessess"
"No, I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God."
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
-- 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- 2002-03-13
I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation.
(And this guy grew up in Connecticut with a father as the head of the CIA, and a yale education, geeeee how did he end up like this?)
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ROFL, erg, ROFL :D
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Originally posted by ergRTC
(And this guy grew up in Connecticut with a father as the head of the CIA, and a yale education, geeeee how did he end up like this?)
Yep all those faults, and he still manages to run rings around the Democrats.:p
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Originally posted by Löwe
Yep all those faults, and he still manages to run rings around the Democrats.:p
nothing a little comet and elbow grease won't take right out of the tub.
:D
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Originally posted by Shane
nothing a little comet and elbow grease won't take right out of the tub.
:D
LOL get back to work school or whatever your supposed to be doing Shane.;)
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Gore 50,996,116 48 % 21 266
Bush 50,456,169 48 % 30 271
damn electoral college.
Course if gore had been selected instead of bush, he would be getting blamed for the economy. Maybe all is for the best.
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damn electoral college.
Maybe, but I wouldn't want it as a straight popular vote either. Remember, the vote counts the same for the folks from this survey (http://geosurvey.nationalgeographic.com/geosurvey/) who can't identify the Pacific Ocean on a multiple choice test!
Personal disclosure: I missed the question on religion...
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Originally posted by ergRTC
Gore 50,996,116 48 % 21 266
Bush 50,456,169 48 % 30 271
damn electoral college.
Course if gore had been selected instead of bush, he would be getting blamed for the economy. Maybe all is for the best.
Yep pesky thing the rule of law.
No way, the press would never blame anything on a Democrat. Gore would be sitting pretty, and Bin Laden would get a formal apology from the U.S. for putting the Twin Towers in front of the flight path of those hijackers.
No Sweat Erg, it's still America, trial lawyers have open season on Tobbacco companies, and now if you over weight they'll help you go after McDonalds. You guys can get rid of Dubya in two more years.
After all according to all his critics, he's a idiot who can't tie his own shoes.
:)
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Originally posted by HFMudd
Maybe, but I wouldn't want it as a straight popular vote either. Remember, the vote counts the same for the folks from this survey (http://geosurvey.nationalgeographic.com/geosurvey/) who can't identify the Pacific Ocean on a multiple choice test!
Personal disclosure: I missed the question on religion...
i got 'em all. sweden would've been tuffer if they threw norway in the answer equation.
:eek:
very depressing reviewing the results.
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Originally posted by Löwe
After all according to all his critics, he's a idiot who can't tie his own shoes.:)
i thought that was the housesla... errr Powell's job?
:confused:
:D
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Wow, thats the one I missed too (the religion one).
17% could find afganistan.
16% could find sweden
21% could find israel
56% could find italy
More people in canada than the US could find mexio. Even people in mexico could find mexico better than the US (and to compare educational systems, 97% of mexicans could find their own country as well as the US, yet only 89% of the US test takers could find USA on the map).
I guess as the last election shows, most people are republican trailor trash......
Survey Results: U.S. Young Adults Are Lagging
Despite the daily bombardment of news from the Middle East, Central Asia, and other world trouble spots, roughly 85 percent of young Americans could not find Afghanistan, Iraq, or Israel on a map, according to a new study.
Americans ages 18 to 24 came in next to last among nine countries in the National Geographic-Roper 2002 Global Geographic Literacy Survey, which quizzed more than 3,000 young adults in Canada, France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Sweden, and the United States. Top scorers were young adults in Sweden, Germany, and Italy.
Out of 56 questions that were asked across all countries surveyed, on average young Americans answered 23 questions correctly.
• nearly 30 percent of those surveyed could not find the Pacific Ocean, the world’s largest body of water;
• more than half—56 percent—were unable to locate India, home to 17 percent of people on Earth; and
• only 19 percent could name four countries that officially acknowledge having nuclear weapons.
Check this one out. 30% of the kids couldnt tell you what the western most city on this map is.
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Hey Brady, Being it is the Agean 1941, is field capture available for both sides or just the Axis? PLEASE ADVISE.
Saber, Bless you Sir! Be nice to fly on home turf for the 325th FG !
Grunherz, Gonna miss you buddy! ;)
ErgRTC, well.... never mind. :rolleyes: !
:D
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hehe good one shane. I heard Powell is getting very frustrated. The white house keeps reversing decisions he makes, and often keeps him 'locked in a closet' on important affairs. Powell's too good of a man to keep down like that.
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Originally posted by ergRTC
Check this one out. 30% of the kids couldnt tell you what the western most city on this map is.
that's because of that 30%, 85% are dyslexic and 15% suffer from ADD by which time that question came up were reduced to entering random answers.
:D
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Originally posted by Shane
i thought that was the housesla... errr Powell's job?
:confused:
:D
Hey don't go there............. Actually I never understand why conservatives are viewed as racist, when it seems to be liberals are always bringing up the differences in people. General Powell ties no shoes, except for General Powell's. This debate has been fun... Erg and I both accept the fact we differ on political opinions. Anything I say to Erg is in fun, and though I don't agree with Erg, I'm all for his right to vote, speak, and express his opinions.
housesla... errr Powell's job? Thats too tatseless for even me Shane. One thing though Shane whatever the conversatiion you do come out swinging.
:D
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Originally posted by Löwe
Hey don't go there............. Actually I never understand why conservatives are viewed as racist, when it seems to be liberals are always bringing up the differences in people. :D
lol, i see you're a tad behind on current events? Harry Belafonte made the remark that Powell was being a houseslave to the administration. was a big flap in the press a bit back. i think belafonte is a dem so you might have a point. he's also ummm let's see what the proper PC phrase is these.. african-american?
i just took that remark and applied it in teh context of Bush being deemed an idiot, and how powell functions on several levels of helping, or at least trying, to moderate the current administration's geo-political stance.
personally i'm neither dem or repub.. i'm more of a middle of the road moderate with socially liberal and fiscal conservative leanings.
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Yeah, same here shane. I voted perot back in 92, just to show you how clueless I am.
I would be a republican, but I just dont agree with corporate handouts. THats why Mccain is da man. Republicans woulda won in a landslide had they nominated mccain. Really is too bad, but money runs politics, and mccain has that wierd problem with his personality called 'ethics'. Not many politicians left that are like that.
Biggest thing I was hoping for was the campaign finance reform, and now that is getting gutted.
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Oh, I also believe liberal social policies (you know like all of us getting together to pay for stuff like school, roads, government, the military, social security, medicare). Not all of us getting yanked on taxes while the rich declare bankruptcy 3 times every decade so they dont have to pay a damned thing.
Did you guys know that CEO's now make on average 500X the amount of the wage laborer? Back in the early 80's during the height of that yuppie crap it was on ly 50X more. Makes a guy wanna go socialist hearing about that. Companies laying off 2000 employees to save money when the Ceo is pulling down 15million in wages and stock options.
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Field capyuter for everybody.
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Sorry for the late reponse fellas had to go back to work. :( Yeah Shane I heard what Harry Belafonte said, tis a pity. However Bush is president not Powell, and the General is a wise enough man, to know if he's being treated unfairly. I'm damn glad he's Secetary of State. My lovely wife Linda is a huge Democrat. Actually I'm more Liberal than you think. I believe in equality across the board, be it race, religion, sex, sexual preferance, a womans right to choose. I'm for all that. Then again I'm for lowering taxes, personal gun ownership, and keeping government out of my life as much as possible. So I'm really a Libertarian, I just never have a candidate to vote for.
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GRUNHERZ,
I wasn't talking about the Agean setup. The Spit Mk anything would be completely out of place there. If that's what prompted your idiotic "Spit 14" rant, maybe you should try reading.
I was refering to the Po Valley, Italy setup being discussed. I didn't even realize what an asinine mistake you had made until your second post refered to the C.202. I'm afraid that I had too high an opinion of you.
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The Spit XIV thing isn't about what you said, toejam I didnt even read your posts THAT CAREFULLY. I was just making fun of the old "Spitfire for Balance" whines in CT..
Talk about missing the point Karnak... :D
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Wow there was a spat for nothing.
Lowe thats my beef with the republicans. They are all about smaller government as long as its getting gov out of buisness. They are all for smaller gov. when its reducing help to people having a hard time of it (they closed this session without dealing with the 825,000 people who are going to lose there unemployment benefits december 28th, merry christmas, democrats were threatening to hold up the homeland 'screw you in the bellybutton and take away your privacy' bill but that was politically impossible after the last election). They are all for increasing government oversight on a womans body, what drugs you can use, whether you can vote (DC residents do not have any representation in congress, thats nearly 700,000 people that pay taxes with no representation, more than montana, wyoming, north dakota, and nearly as many as south dakota. When Trent Lott was asked about representation for DC he said basically "no way in diddlying hell"). If the Republicans would just be consistant, stop bending over and grabbing their ankles for big business, and try to keep the religious right from running/ruining there party, I might consider voting for one of em.
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I have it on good authority, they do what they do just to piss you off.:D
I still say though to all of you people that hate big business, and corporations. Give up your job,your clothes, your car, your computer, your house, and don't but any food. They come from big business.
As materialistic as this society is don't you think it's absurd to constantly rant against the people who provide the materials everyone craves? Same thing about whining about the oil companys. Aside from from trying to force everyone into GEO's do you ever consider petrolium goes into the manufacture of just about every product you buy? I'm not for corprate welfare, but it is funny the Democrats scream about it, like it's a Republican only
problem , yet they have no problem bailing out American Airlines. Hmm isnt Tom Daschels wife a big lobbyist for American Airlines.
Both side do it Erg. Don't vote for any of them, it only encourages them.:D Hitech for president, then we can all sit around waiting for Government V1.11
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I once had this heated debate with a raving left wing, anti- business, anti-globalization communist type at my school. The only thing more hillarious than her bizzare arguments that day was seeing her get into her expensive late model Japanese import car after class! :D
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I dont have a problem with the products of big business, just the way they treat the working man (yes I have !worked! as a tig/mig welder, landscaper, managed a resturant, father has nearly 40 years in the railroad). We can have nice cars, radios and plastic without having to deal with guys like Roger Smith or the lobbyists that work for them. Government is supposed to be for and by the people, representing the people, not corporations that are not responsible for their actions. 'whats good for GM is not good for america' if it means moving jobs to mexico and sending the corporate headquarters to jamaica in order to stop paying taxes.
The fact that Daschle married a lobbyist just demonstrates how corrupt the whole system is.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I once had this heated debate with a raving left wing, anti- business, anti-globalization communist type at my school. The only thing more hillarious than her bizzare arguments that day was seeing her get into her expensive late model Japanese import car after class! :D
LOL yep Greenheart, nothing like a Misguided Crusader.;)
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I still say though to all of you people that hate big business, and corporations. Give up your job,your clothes, your car, your computer, your house, and don't but any food. They come from big business.
That's like saying "If you find problems with AH, then you aren't allowed to play it."
Remeber, people provide things because someone buys them, and thus makes profit out of those who buy. Customers are entitled to an opinion because the the modern captialistic way of life is a life of exchange. We don't have to thank the 'big business' for anything. They aren't running it for free. The "in-debt" conditions are mutual.
However, the problem lies in the fact that because human life is inevitably affected greatest by material environment, in an environment where things can be exclusively privatized, effectively things and issues that are vital to the quality of life, and most often life itself can also be privatized by a few who make profit of it. So, it is in truth a simple matter to control and suppress people not directly(as in the past history in the form of slavery, peonage, peasantry, or etc) but indirectly, by buying and altering the material conditions around them.
For instance, one of the classic examples of such problems are welfare in the form of financial insurances, or hospital services. They aren't free, and thus, they are distributed to those who can afford it. This meets a fundamental crisis when it is involved with "life", something that cannot be measured with money. As I mentioned in some other thread, 70 million North Koreans are in a state of poverty. That's enough to condemn the regime as being inhuman and incompetent. However, turn your eyes on to yourselves and then you can see 45 million Americans are homeless, illiterate, living under minimum/no wage conditions, can not receive welfare, and are hopelessly beyond salvation by sympathetic form of philanthropic/financial "welfare" provided by private institutions.
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The comments on "big businesses" are yes, idealistic and often very simplistic. However, it is a popular sentiment and carries with it an inkling of truth about life in modern society, just as the cynical "Dilbert" strip simplifies life of white-collar citizens with a satire and yet, grabs a certain amount of truth inside.
Whilst some comment of the most "conservative" era in American history as the 1950's, a closer look easily reveals the condition and quality of life in 2002 is nothing like what it was in 1950 - where everyone could have their own homes, full-time jobs, cars, receive active welfare, receive job security, go to school with less money and etc etc. People living in 2002 are tolerating conditions which would have been intolerable in 1950.
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Originally posted by Kweassa
That's like saying "If you find problems with AH, then you aren't allowed to play it."
No that's not what I'm saying at all. If you put it in AH terms, what I'm saying is. If you think it's evil, and blame all the worlds problems on AH, Then don't play it.
I know very few people like the ones you see on comercials, that have brand new cars, big houses, and the perfect life.
I make less than 30K a year, I can only afford health insurance for my children. My wife has hers through work, if something happens to me I'll have to depend on a VA hospital. I work for a local compamy that made 10 million last year. The owner put the majority of the money back into the company. We get no Christmas bonuses, I usually work two jobs during the holidays to ensure my children, and wife have a good holiday. A Christmas bonus would be great, and some of the guys I work with pisss and moan and say negeative things about the owner. However the man started this company in his garage in 1978. He employs over 100 people in the area and has done well for himself. He has a big house, big cars and even an airplane. There are people that target men like him as whats wrong with the country. In my opinion he's whats right with it.
Why should he after working his butt off all his life and providing jobs, and taking care of his family be taxed to death, or be held responsable for the plight of others. Just because he has struggled to become rich and successful, that makes him a bad person worthy of the class warfare aimed at Americans like him?
I'm reponsable for me and mine, if I fail to take care of myself or my family, it's not George Bush's fault, Big Business' fault, it's my fault.
Yes there are people that need help badly, and there should be programs to help them. However there are a lot of people that refuse to help themselve's and expect somebody else to do it for them.
I got a brother in law of 25 years, that I love as a brother. he works for the rail road in Arkansas, his union went on strike during the 80's, he didnt work for 3 years, and blamed it on Reagan. He didnt look for other work once, just waited for the union to call him back to the RR. He and my sister both whail bloddy murder against Republicans for the hard times they went through in the 80's Then he brags about how they take turns sleeping in the cab of the locomotavies on the night shift.:eek: Unless you are suffering from mental, or physical, handicaps that can't be overcome, how can you blame your plight on anyone but yourself?:confused:
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I dont think that people should not be allowed to make insane amounts of money, but the fact is, in our current regressive taxation and attorney schemes, the rich get richer when they dont need to and feel no responsibility to the people that get them rich. I would love to have a bunch of money, but I would not want to do it at the expense of good hard working people. I know many lazy bellybutton sobs that dont deserve a dime, but I also know many many guys that work hard for next to nothing, for large companies that pay panzy bellybutton morons for doing nothing. People should be rich because they make or invent something that is useful to society, not because they can abuse their laborers better than the next guy.
All through the 80s my father was constantly being laid off from the railroad. He would mow lawns and cut wood to put food on the table. This was because of the recession, and the anit labor attitude of the republicans. Supply side /trickle down economics may work okay in the long run, but in the meantime people are hungry and children dont get what they need. I prefer in giving the money to the worker not the employer. If the worker has money, he can buy stuff. If he can buy stuff than the employer gets money. If you give the money to the employer, he can expand his business and employ more people, or as we have seen historically (as demand drives growth and profits) they just pocket the money, move to a golf community, and put a big stone wall between them and their poor starving theiving, undecuated and increasingly violent work force.
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Originally posted by ergRTC
All through the 80s my father was constantly being laid off from the railroad. He would mow lawns and cut wood to put food on the table.
Yes Erg, your father even though down, didnt quit. He did what he had to do, to provide for himself and the people he loves.
He's the kind of hero that never gets any credit.
I'll never earn insane amounts of money, but I don't begrudge those who do. This is still the land of oppurtunity, and a person should be free to make as much out of his, or her life as they wish. What would happen if everytime a person got rich from producing a product, the government stepped in and said you have to stop, your too successful. Where would the product improvements come from. I don't believe in squashing the individual, because he's more talented, than the masses.
The marketplace dictates America. You earn by what you contribute to the marketplace. It's not perfect, but I'd rather take my chances on what I can do, then having a government do it for me.
By the way Erg,you noticed neither one of us has said toejam about the Agean? We kinda hijacked this thread?:eek:
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oh I think this thread was dead ages ago.....
My beef with the 'thats our liberty and freedom' side of the arguement is that it rarely works without government intervention. When the government or unions dont step up individuals and corps just rape society. Look what happened when gov. was truely keeping its head out of money and society, we had jim crow laws in the south, and robber barons stifling competition and reducing peoples living wage to pennies a day. You leave it up to them the same will happen again. People cant help themselves, no matter how how many times they quote the bible.
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Well then again, we'll agree to disagree.;)
They need to put us on crossfire LOL
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Maybe we will have to meet up at the O club section of the bar during the convention!;)
erg
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Dragging this thread back to AH issues.....
I have enjoyed this scenario, it's a great map (by the way, it's spelled CRETE, not CREETE) and the plane set is outstanding.
By the way, even though fighters are not enabled at the CVs, you can still operate from them. I have been flying Kittyhawks and Hurricanes out to the CVs and operating from them.
Like others, I'd like to see this map adapted to the MA. Great job 10bears!!
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Widewing
I have enjoyed this scenario, it's a great map (by the way, it's spelled CRETE, not CREETE) and the plane set is outstanding.
Glad to have had you here, Widewing, why don't you stick around a bit more?
- oldman
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Glad to have had you here, Widewing, why don't you stick around a bit more?
- oldman
Yes, welcome to the CT Widewing.
Stick around, you'll love it here.
eskimo