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Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Ripsnort on November 20, 2002, 08:15:44 AM
last week I was bombarded with these, different messages, etc.  Norton picked them all up but man, whats up with dat? Anyone else been bombarded lately?  I was avg. 2 a day for about 10 days.
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Eagler on November 20, 2002, 08:47:27 AM
have you checked the headers ... are they from the Ohio area?

I get at least one a day from a tard on this board using different accounts all from the Ohio area. Had his cable ISP block my addy from him but he's very creative :)
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Ripsnort on November 20, 2002, 06:43:56 PM
Haven't paid too much attention to area other than return email addy.
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Innominate on November 20, 2002, 07:15:31 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Haven't paid too much attention to area other than return email addy.


Which is forged.
Some coming from AOL have an X-Apparently-From header which shows thier aol username.

Still, Who cares?  Does anyone still use outlook?  And if you do you deserve what you get.  Even more so to the people who run unknown programs from emails.
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Ripsnort on November 21, 2002, 08:16:20 AM
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Originally posted by Innominate
Even more so to the people who run unknown programs from emails.


Bingo, why they even bother sending viruses around anymore(shrugs)
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Innominate on November 21, 2002, 08:49:56 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Bingo, why they even bother sending viruses around anymore(shrugs)


Because people are idiots, and still open them.

What we need is a bios-flashing email virus.  Not one that simply wipes the bios, but one that replaces it with a message informing the user of what an idiot they are.
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Ripsnort on November 21, 2002, 10:55:55 AM
LOL!
Title: Yes
Post by: weazel on November 21, 2002, 01:25:15 PM
"Does anyone still use outlook?"

But I'm also smart enough to disable scripts and executables in emails from running when I view mail.

I don't even run full time active anti-virus, I DO scan downloaded program files with a right click before executing them.

Trend PC-Cillian makes Norton look like the trash it is.
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Reschke on November 22, 2002, 10:46:08 AM
I got 3 from the same idiot in the last two days. So I sent them back to them from an old yahoo account I have for just such an occasion. I keep the address book purged just to send viruses back to the sender I got them from. :D
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Hajo on November 24, 2002, 07:10:12 PM
Using Norton Anti-Virus setup to check my EMail.  Cripes..........I live in Ohio......this guy could be my neighbor!  Maybe they should publicly list EMail Virus Geeks like sex offenders....notify everyone in the neighborhood this idiot lives near ya.  Post his picture on the BBS.....profile of course.  That way we could see how large his pocket protector is. :D
Title: Re: Yes
Post by: Ripsnort on November 25, 2002, 10:52:46 AM
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Originally posted by weazel

Trend PC-Cillian makes Norton look like the trash it is.


Oh of course Weazel, whatever you have is the best, and everything else trash...:rolleyes:
Title: Don't be angry rip....
Post by: weazel on November 25, 2002, 03:27:31 PM
Just because I'm better than you. :p

No one needs to take my word for it, they can download Trends free trial and compare the two.

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Oh of course Weazel, whatever you have is the best, and everything else trash...:rolleyes:
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Chairboy on November 25, 2002, 03:53:26 PM
Weazel, what specifically do you dislike about Norton AV?
Title: Several things.
Post by: weazel on November 25, 2002, 04:09:39 PM
It's a resource hog compared to Trends anti-virus.

It can't be easily disabled if you don't need it running 24/7.

It's only good for 1 year, then you have to purchase it again.

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Weazel, what specifically do you dislike about Norton AV?
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Chairboy on November 25, 2002, 05:55:40 PM
I don't know if #1 is accurate, but #2 and #3 are definately not correct.  

To disable NAV, just right click on the icon in the tray and select Disable.  You can even easilly configure it to not start up automatically when you boot so that it's available all the time.  Unlike most virus programs, it not only scans all your incoming mail, it also scans your outgoing mail.

You were also incorrect about #3.  You get a one year subscription to the virus definitions, then you pay to renew the subscription after that.  A $10 or so outlay once a year is definately not the same as having to repurchase the program.  Plus, if you don't resubscribe, it still keeps working fine, it just doesn't get the brand new virus defs.

Trend reviews poorly next to NAV, I'm curious how recent your experience has been with these two products.  NAV is Editors Choice, handily beating the competition.
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Chairboy on November 25, 2002, 05:56:19 PM
I did some checking, and NAV has a smaller system resource impact then Trend, so item #1 was incorrect as well.
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: 214thCavalier on November 25, 2002, 06:28:57 PM
Going down in flames springs to mind :)
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Eagler on November 25, 2002, 08:28:09 PM
I think it cost me $4 for NAV virus defs for a year. cheap insurance.

weaz is just a rebel without a cause :)

James Dean II
Title: OK smart guy...
Post by: weazel on November 25, 2002, 09:13:59 PM
Disable NAV with the tray icon and then reboot

Then do a ctrl alt del and what do you see?

NAV componets running, that's what.

"I did some checking, and NAV has a smaller system resource impact then Trend, so item #1 was incorrect as well."

Point me to your "proof", I've run both and with NAV system resources are 3% lower at boot.

"it still keeps working fine, it just doesn't get the brand new virus defs"

Then what good is it when new viruses are released?

Do you by chance work for Symantec?
Title: Klez worm variants
Post by: Chairboy on November 26, 2002, 02:08:38 PM
Actually, I do work for Symantec.  Does that somehow weaken facts that I present?  If I was just trying to give a different opinion, the fact that I work for the company might be grounds for calling shenanigans, but I'm just dealing with facts.

Typical overhead for NAV 2003 on a midrange system is about 3%, so your figure sounds rather suspect.  By your logic, Trend consumes 0% of the system resources.  Unlikely.