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Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Dowding (Work) on November 21, 2002, 09:30:20 AM
For me it would have to be the Hawker Typhoon. I don't think there is even a static display example, nevermind a air-worthy plane. I'd just love to hear that huge 24 cylinder Sabre engine turning over or screaming on a high speed pass. :)

Another would be the Mossie. I remember seeing the flying example we had over here when I was a kid - but it was destroyed in an accident a while ago, IIRC.

A full size Stuka equipped with siren would be interesting - to get an idea of how terrifying that siren must have been.

I would have added the Bristol Beaufighter, but Duxford are reputedly rebuilding one to air-worthy status at the moment. They are supposed to be doing the same with an La-11 too  -which will be the only example flying anywhere in the world.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Staga on November 21, 2002, 10:10:09 AM
Ju88 and Ar234.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: gatso on November 21, 2002, 10:18:08 AM
So so many.

One of the big engined late war Brit monsters Typh/Temp/ MB mb-5 would have to be top of my list too. Saw a restored Sabre at a museum ages ago. The thing is HUGE, I can imagine the noise it would have made. How on earth did we manage to not save a single example of one of these aircraft! :( :eek: Or did we? Anyone know of one anywhere?

Canucks have a Mossie flying don't they? I've heard a few things about 'replica' mossies being built in Australia too.

The OFMC La-9 was in New Zealand I believe, thats going to be interesting.

(http://www.ofmc.co.uk/images/la-9-pic1.jpg)

However top of my list isn't a WW2 bird at all. I'm afraid it runs on avgas and is a bit big.

Its this.
(http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mongsoft/xh558-5.jpg)

I want one.

Gatso
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: LePaul on November 21, 2002, 10:21:16 AM
Ar-234

Because there's none, asides the one at the Smithsonian

Or the Gotha Go 229
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: SELECTOR on November 21, 2002, 10:35:11 AM
vulcan is my favorite plane too.. had pleasure of sitting in one when i was younger.. also seen it many times during the eighties at airshows... shame there are not airworthy ones anymore... but i do belive that will change soon..
:)
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: gatso on November 21, 2002, 10:42:15 AM
but i do belive that will change soon..


Depends how you define 'soon' and where you want it flying  :(

Have a look at This (http://www.vulcan558club.com/news.htm)

and then read this (and bear in mind it was in the Sunday mail so maybe take it with a pinch of salt)

http://www.vulcan558club.com/news/mailonsunday.jpg

Gatso
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Octavius on November 21, 2002, 10:47:32 AM
109, 190, or P40
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: ra on November 21, 2002, 10:48:54 AM
FW-189.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Ripsnort on November 21, 2002, 10:50:21 AM
Hmmmm, decisions decisions....Okay, P61 Black Widow :)
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: LePaul on November 21, 2002, 10:55:14 AM
Gotha info...

http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/stuff_eng_detail_hoix.htm

(http://www.checksix.net/go229_art_08.jpg)


wow!
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: whgates3 on November 21, 2002, 11:09:26 AM
V1 (only a few) - as revenge for the spice girls
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: swoopy on November 21, 2002, 01:18:05 PM
lol whgates.

I would just love to walk around a tiffie or temp on the ground just to get an idea of scale. It was a big fighter.

BTW, I used to go to RAF Finningley almost every year since about the age of 3 up until the base closed when I was 15 or so. The Vulcan was an awesome sight - and sound. Those 4 engines (RR Olympus?) were monumentally loud, it was like being in the middle of a continuous thunderclap. :)

The decision by the lottery fund people not to give a measely £2.5 million to get Vulcan XH558 in the air is nothing short of a scandal. They give £20 million to bunch of f***ing assylum seekers, 80% of which are going to be illegal and bogus, £ 1 million to a TOILET(!) museum, £50 million to the bloody dome fund but nothing for keeping some British engineering heritage in the country. Jesus, what's wrong with this damned country? And to top it all, it's going to be sold via the internet and will likely end up Yank side of the pond! :(

All we will have is the static one that can be found at Newark air museum - you can sit in it. Or at least I did when I was a kid. It was very cramped - can't imagine doing a run down to the Falklands in those conditions.

Another favourite of mine was the English Electric Lightning - I was still quite young when it was phased out, but that was one loud aircraft.

- Dowding (using his brother's computer)
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: RGJ on November 21, 2002, 02:42:39 PM
Would like to see a Mosquito fly, seen one static at Duxford but it would be great to see one flying again:).

Was lucky enough to see a Vulcan fly at the last airshow held at Manston it was spectacular!

Also lucky to see Black 6 fly a couple of times, before the accident.

Dowding they have got a static display of a Hawker Typhoon at Hendon:

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/index_collections.cfm

RGJ
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Post by: Wlfgng on November 21, 2002, 02:53:00 PM
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will likely end up Yank side of the pond!



:D
Title: Re: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: straffo on November 21, 2002, 03:13:28 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding (Work)
For me it would have to be the Hawker Typhoon. I don't think there is even a static display example, nevermind a air-worthy plane. I'd just love to hear that huge 24 cylinder Sabre engine turning over or screaming on a high speed pass. :)


From memory I do think there is one on static display at the "mémorial de caen"  but I'm not sure (it can be a reproduction)
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Berra85 on November 21, 2002, 04:04:32 PM
If i won millions on the lottery i would happily put some money into the restoration of a Vulcan, i dont live to far from Southend airport where one is situated, i only saw it close up a few months ago and was amazed at how big she was.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Bluefish on November 21, 2002, 04:56:53 PM
A TBD Devastator, as a living memorial for the sacrifice of the USN torpedo squadrons at Midway.  For me, that would indeed be a "sacred" aircraft.

I don't believe there's a single example flying anywhere (although I understand some wrecks have been found underwater in the Great Lakes that crashed in training).
Title: Re: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Replicant on November 21, 2002, 05:31:03 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding (Work)
For me it would have to be the Hawker Typhoon. I don't think there is even a static display example, nevermind a air-worthy plane. I'd just love to hear that huge 24 cylinder Sabre engine turning over or screaming on a high speed pass. :)

Another would be the Mossie. I remember seeing the flying example we had over here when I was a kid - but it was destroyed in an accident a while ago, IIRC.

A full size Stuka equipped with siren would be interesting - to get an idea of how terrifying that siren must have been.

I would have added the Bristol Beaufighter, but Duxford are reputedly rebuilding one to air-worthy status at the moment. They are supposed to be doing the same with an La-11 too  -which will be the only example flying anywhere in the world.


Hehe, my exact choice too! :)

They have a Typhoon on display at RAF Musuem Hendon, here's a piccy below:-
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/Tiffy.jpg)

The de Havilliand Musuem at London Colney have a B.35 Mosquito which they did say they hoped to get airworthy.  I was lucky to have a sit inside it! :)
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/12a.jpg)

Here's the Beaufighter Mk.21 at Duxford.  It will indeed be airworthy when completed.  Incidently Hendon have a Beaufighter Mk.IX on display too (along with Beaufort).
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/Beaufighter.JPG)

Not sure about the La-11 but Duxford do have two Yaks, not sure if they're 3s, 7s, or 9s?
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/Yak.jpg)

They also have a A6M that they eventually want to do some work on.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: gatso on November 21, 2002, 06:11:27 PM
One of the Yaks is a 3 not sure about the other one. the 3 was just about visually complete last time I was down there. Belongs to the OFMC http://www.ofmc.co.uk/aircraft/yak3.htm

I've sat in that Mossie too it's an elite club they don't just let anyone climb in. :cool:

Gatos
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: udet on November 21, 2002, 06:18:19 PM
I don't know if there are any airworthy Airacobras...I don't care much for the plane , but it is a rather imporntant aircraft, historically...lemme know if there are any restauration projects. Other than that, maybe a P61.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Kieran on November 21, 2002, 06:23:52 PM
I want to see that Typhoon outfitted with the backward-firing bazookas.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Raubvogel on November 21, 2002, 08:39:28 PM
Would love to see the Gotha/Horton 229 fly...was a beautiful aircraft. I'd also love to see the Smithsonian get their Ta152 back in the air.

Can't wait to see those 262s they are building in Seattle fly.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: -tronski- on November 21, 2002, 08:44:47 PM
Did the Go229 actually fly?

Always think a/c should be flying rather sitting collecting dust....

Theres a complete Beaufighter Mk21 about 30 mins south of Sydney sitting in an old museum I wish was flying...
And I'm pretty sure theres a canadian mob rebuilding a mossie to flying status.

 Tronsky
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Raubvogel on November 21, 2002, 08:51:05 PM
Go229 only made 1 or 2 flights if I remember correct.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: gatso on November 22, 2002, 01:01:08 PM
I had to punt this thread. Kermits got a Tempy! Who hoo! If he ever gets it flying I want to be there!

http://user.tninet.se/~ytm843e/ej693.htm

(http://user.tninet.se/~yct679b/ej693-19.jpg)


The rest of the site gives details of all Tempest survivors too.

It gets better.. I keep editing this thread lol.

The restoration of Hawker Tempest II MW763/G-TEMT is now proceeding again at an undisclosed Lincolnshire location, following a move from its former base at Sandtoft aerodrome..... The goal is to have the Tempest Mk.II airborne in 2003!

Wow. Fantastic stuff.

Gatso
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: Replicant on November 22, 2002, 01:27:14 PM
I think there is three Tempest's under rebuild in the UK.  Two of them are late Tempest IIs and the other is the WW2 type Tempest V.
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: midnight Target on November 22, 2002, 02:55:50 PM
I believe the Planes of Fame Museum in Chino,CA has the only flying A6M5 in existence (that is not a reproduction).

P-61 would be very cool. Looks like one is in progress.


http://www.maam.org/p61.html
Title: WW2 planes you'd like to see flying again...
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on November 22, 2002, 03:56:29 PM
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They also have a A6M that they eventually want to do some work on.


That more looks like the russian thing

Inline engine mount