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Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: Kevin14 on November 22, 2002, 09:14:35 PM
Actually I'm using Image-ready cause its easier, but anyway I figured out how to make a great desert camo yak skin, but the stars on the wings turn teal when I do it.  I would like to know how to select that teal color or the stars and make them red again.  Thanks ahead of time.
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: Dux on November 22, 2002, 11:14:03 PM
I think you're working in 8-bit mode (256 color) which has a very limited palette. Change it up to RGB (or 24-bit mode), do your work, and then save it back down to 8-bit when you're done.

If you have options for diffusion dithering when you save it back down, I'd recommend using it.
Title: not 8 bit
Post by: DOODY on November 25, 2002, 11:02:43 PM
do what he said, but when u save it save as indexed color, not 8 bit. ( same thing but seem photoshop has issues w 24 bit to 8 bit conversion) i get the same problem u described.
p.s. dont forget to flatten after indexing.
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: BenDover on November 26, 2002, 01:49:15 AM
looks like photoshop and image-ready are as crap at converting as ms paint
Title: Get Macromedia Fireworks
Post by: weazel on November 26, 2002, 04:30:09 PM
I do all my editing in Photoshop but do conversions with Fireworks, it does an excellent job.
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: Dux on November 26, 2002, 11:09:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BenDover
looks like photoshop and image-ready are as crap at converting as ms paint


I beg to differ. PhotoShop, as with any other program, will only give you good results if you use it correctly. I've never had a single instance of the program not doing what I wanted it to do.

These programs will do just about everything except think for you. Take the time to really learn them.
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: Kevin14 on December 02, 2002, 07:26:39 PM
So does anyone know how to do it?
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: ramzey on December 02, 2002, 09:00:57 PM
simple steps

1 . when u open your PS at start flip picture vertical /thats help a lot/. Convert picture from indexed to RGB colour scale. /i personnal make bigger size of bitmap/

2. Use color picker, to take probe of color.

(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/help/1.jpg)

3. Use magic wand to select part of surface.


(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/help/2.jpg)

4.Use crt-c and ctr-v to make separated layer with selected object. If  u  have som dirt on the object , use fill to replace color


(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/help/3.jpg)

5. Change skin like u need, after that remember to flat  image.


(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/help/4.jpg)

6. Before u save them as BMP, convert back to Indexed colour with settings like  on picture /use preview if u wish/. Use windows and 24 bits on last message window

(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/help/5.jpg)
(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/help/6.jpg)

ramzey

ps. Is many ways haw to do it with PS, thats only one of them. U can use masks, alpha channels etc. etc
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: Kevin14 on December 07, 2002, 01:10:21 PM
That was VERY helpful, I just don't understand how to make a new layer (with the checkerboard background).  Also, when I put the red star back onto the skin it turns teal (I am using some inverse color thing).
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: BenDover on December 07, 2002, 03:55:03 PM
inverse means it shows the opposite colour
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: Kevin14 on December 07, 2002, 04:42:01 PM
Is there any way to pick only certain colors and change them to the inverse color?
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: ramzey on December 07, 2002, 08:53:34 PM
yes, use colour range selection , or change color or saturation on separated color or....


i sugest u to read book from your PS box, there is everything

ramzey
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: canesto on December 15, 2002, 06:17:54 PM
Ya i havnt had any significant problems with colours, but i have another problem.

I am working on a RCAF Snowbirds display team P51b (no historical significance)  I am working on at 1280 x 1280 pixels.  But when I convert back to 256 x 256, the lettering and other smaller things look like crap.  Any suggestions.
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: canesto on December 15, 2002, 06:37:47 PM
Ya i havnt had any significant problems with colours, but i have another problem.

I am working on a RCAF Snowbirds display team P51b (no historical significance)  I am working on at 1280 x 1280 pixels.  But when I convert back to 256 x 256, the lettering and other smaller things look like crap.  Any suggestions.
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: canesto on December 15, 2002, 06:38:57 PM
and the crappy one:
Title: lol yup
Post by: DOODY on December 16, 2002, 01:45:54 PM
Thats gonna happen. you should rescale b4 u put in text.
  My trick in photoshop is to make the canvas  size 400X400 but the image 256 256, that way when u zoom, u get space to move around w/o hitting the edge. be sure not to move the imagee or it will be tricky to return the canvas to 256X256 and nor clip or alter the tiles.
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: canesto on December 16, 2002, 09:11:42 PM
Ya I figured their wasnt much i can do about it, but thanks for your help.

I really wish the writing could look as good as it does when i was making it, but oh well

It actually doesnt look too bad though, i just need to do the wings and the underside.

It would be cool to have a map full of planes in display colours, e.g. Snowbirds, Blue Angels, Thunderbirds, Red Arrows, etc.
Title: want the letters to look better?
Post by: DOODY on December 17, 2002, 11:07:19 AM
use Adobe illustrator. If you dont have it, I'd love to have that skin in a photoshoot on Pangia (http://most-wanted.org). Send it and i'll touch it up and get some snaps.


I'm still looking for plane skins for the MA submission of pangia. Visit most-wanted.org (http://www.most-wanted.org)  to participate.
Title: One thing I can't figure out with photoshop
Post by: canesto on December 17, 2002, 05:59:18 PM
I dont have Adobe Illustrator.  Yet :)

I'd like to try and finish doin a Version 1 of my plane on my own, but I would really appreciate it if you could fix that text prob.

I dont think I will have much time this week to work on it, but hopefully i'll get it done by Christmas.  Just need to do the wings and underside.

But if you like i can send it to you with green wings?
Title: green wing is fine
Post by: DOODY on December 18, 2002, 09:50:17 AM
I'll rubber stamp the lettering on it for yas.