General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Citabria on November 24, 2002, 11:01:39 AM
Title: need a way to salvo all ordnance at once
Post by: Citabria on November 24, 2002, 11:01:39 AM
with no delay or switching
it would be most helpful
Title: need a way to salvo all ordnance at once
Post by: 214thCavalier on November 24, 2002, 02:44:52 PM
Cit from what i remember of WW2 film of buffs especially they did not do an all at once drop, they may have dropped in small clusters but it takes many seconds to drop a full load.
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Post by: ccvi on November 24, 2002, 03:31:46 PM
I think he's asking for that feature for fighters.
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Post by: Karnak on November 24, 2002, 03:53:41 PM
For fun, load up a Ki.61-I-KAIc with two 250kg bombs and then drop one of them. Fly around for a bit with one 250kg bomb under you. Really, go try it.
Fester is correct, fighters need to be able to drop all ordinace at once.
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Post by: eskimo2 on November 24, 2002, 04:07:26 PM
What's wrong with .salvo?
eskimo
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Post by: FDutchmn on November 24, 2002, 05:16:10 PM
I think he means all types, ie rockets and bombs, at the same time.
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Post by: Furious on November 24, 2002, 05:32:20 PM
Yes. It would be nice to be able to drop all bombs from a fighter at same time and not have to bspace to select next bomb group.
I don't know why would want to drop bombs and fire rockets at same time unless you need to jetison them in emergency.
F.
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Post by: Karnak on November 24, 2002, 06:40:38 PM
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Originally posted by Furious Yes. It would be nice to be able to drop all bombs from a fighter at same time and not have to bspace to select next bomb group.
I don't know why would want to drop bombs and fire rockets at same time unless you need to jetison them in emergency.
F.
That is mostly true, but one some aircraft you have bombs in the bomb bay and under the wings. When this is the case you have separate groups for identical ordinance.
It is very difficult to drop all four 500lb bombs from the Mossie at the same time.
Title: need a way to salvo all ordnance at once
Post by: popeye on November 25, 2002, 07:46:10 AM
Yeah, the game definitely needs to be easier. Pressing backspace is killing me.
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Post by: Imp on November 25, 2002, 09:45:55 AM
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Originally posted by popeye Yeah, the game definitely needs to be easier. Pressing backspace is killing me.
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Title: need a way to salvo all ordnance at once
Post by: bj229r on November 25, 2002, 08:47:26 PM
all wing-mounted ordnance ought be able to be dropped at once...not in .05 increments..that adds up in ILw or somethin similar--other point is...A20--ya have to take eyes off windshield and hit backspace while in 300 knot dive..THAT SUCKS--same fer P47...38, etc..whay cant ya launch ALL rockets/eggs at once..not like ya wanna dive a cv twice. (assuming, of course..thats possible)
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Post by: PSYKO on November 26, 2002, 05:09:21 PM
yea i agree alot of aircraft in ww2 could drop everything at once (mainley fighters but some bombers) that is why it was so efictive cant think of a better way to knock out a anoying little groung target than a salvo of bombs hittin in the same spot
the htc staff should wacth a few ww2 war movies then alter the game to that i guess it could work any way i still think dorppin em all at once is a great idear
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Post by: AtmkRstr on November 27, 2002, 08:52:00 AM
I'm not familiar with the cockpit trigger for rockets, but I'm assuming it was seperate device from the bomb trigger, unlike in AH where they share the same button. Wouldn't it be more realistic (and perhaps even easier to implement) to introduce a tertiary fire button for rockets?
Is this really necesary though? as it is, I can hit <2nd fire>,
Title: need a way to salvo all ordnance at once
Post by: Red Tail 444 on November 27, 2002, 10:06:21 AM
I think the current setup is fine. I have three buttons programmed for firing, primary, secondary, and all weapon fire, as well as weapon selection toggle.
Maybe the only reason some of us want to drop all at once is to for those wonderful suicide runs on CVs? Just gaming the game, IMO.
Gainsie
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Post by: AKDejaVu on November 27, 2002, 10:53:04 AM
Does anyone know what the capabilities of the aircraft were in these regards? I know that from a bomb bay you do not have a choice, except that it may be possible to drop two at once. The bombs were stacked, there had to be a delay. There just may have been a couple (or more) stacks.
The same should be true for the fighters. I don't know what fighter salvo capabilities were, if they even had them. Or if bombs were all dropped at once. (er.. two at a time for most fighters)
From my experience with weapons on more modern fighters, any emergency jettison is done with weapons in the disarmed state (arming laniards drop with bombs)... rockets aren't fired but jettisoned... etc.
Does anyone know if this was allowed in the various WW2 aircraft?
The change just for the sake of making something more convenient is silly. But if the aircraft had the capability... it isn't silly.
Maybe after that, HTC could take a peak at people divebombing with weapons bay aircraft.
AKDejaVu
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Post by: 214thCavalier on November 27, 2002, 02:34:16 PM
True I very much doubt the bombs would have cleared the bay correctly without destroying the aircraft if it was not specifically designed with dive bombing in mind.
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Post by: Blank on November 27, 2002, 04:17:36 PM
ok just did a test in a p-47 d30 2x 500lb , 10x rkt
.salvo 10
fire rockets = all 10 go at once drop bombs = both drop at once
only way I could think to drop everything is to program a macro for my joystick so that i get:
secondary fire + backspace + secondary fire + backspace
this would do it almost instantly I suppose.
Dont know why I never thought of this before I'm goin to try it now, could be useful :)
Title: need a way to salvo all ordnance at once
Post by: Blank on November 27, 2002, 04:25:05 PM
yep just recorded a macro for my joystick (MS FF2) and I can now drop everything at once.