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Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Shark88 on November 25, 2002, 04:38:12 PM
Some of you will probably think this idea is completely out of whack or extremely stupid.   I say the atomic bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima should be available in Ah.  It would most defiantly be perked and have a minimum altitude it must be dropped.  (This is a really stupid idea and I just want to hear what you all think);)
Title: Re: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Dead Man Flying on November 25, 2002, 04:39:38 PM
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Originally posted by Shark88
extremely stupid.


I agree with the above statement.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Re: Re: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Rotorian on November 25, 2002, 04:40:21 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I agree with the above statement.

-- Todd/Leviathn


Thirded.
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: VOR on November 25, 2002, 04:40:52 PM
It would propably start a thread about how dweebs fail to use proper acm while employing atomic weapons :D
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: anton on November 26, 2002, 12:56:12 AM
as long as it could be dropped from  spits N1ks & la7s it should be quite popular.
 Anton:cool:
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: beet1e on November 26, 2002, 04:47:15 AM
It's a dangerous business having ideas for AH. Toad will come along and accuse you of trying to dictate exactly how everyone else in the community should play. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: i have an idea for AH
Post by: ramzey on November 26, 2002, 05:34:36 AM
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Originally posted by Shark88
extremely stupid.


not new idea, but extremely stupid imho


ramzey
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Sleight on November 26, 2002, 05:42:30 AM
Maybe if we made a perked B-29 for about 50 and a perked atomic bomb for about 950...

j/k.
Title: Re: i have an idea for AH
Post by: oboe on November 26, 2002, 07:44:34 AM
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Originally posted by Shark88
Some of you will probably think this idea is completely out of whack or extremely stupid.   I say the atomic bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima should be available in Ah.  It would most defiantly be perked and have a minimum height it must be dropped.  (This is a really stupid idea and I just want to hear what you all think);)


Why do YOU think its a really stupid idea, Shark?
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Shark88 on November 26, 2002, 02:35:18 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Toad will come along and accuse you of trying to dictate exactly how everyone else in the community should play.


Why not? It's what ended WWII isn't it? Just perk it for like 500 points and as i said before, it would have to be dropped at a certain altitude.  I not trying to dictate anything i just wanted to see what peolole would say.  Besides HTC wouldn't do it anyway.
I think it would be a great idea if it was hard to get or use.;)
Title: Re: Re: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Shark88 on November 26, 2002, 02:38:58 PM
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Originally posted by ramzey
not new idea, but extremely stupid


have you heard of this before?:eek:
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on November 26, 2002, 04:06:15 PM
It'd be an easy way to end about 50 people's fun.
-SW
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Sleight on November 26, 2002, 05:48:38 PM
Lol...I can see it now...a new strategic target: Atomic bomb factory.

:P
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: vorticon on November 26, 2002, 07:16:51 PM
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extremely stupid.


yep


we cant even have the grand slam why should be be alloed to have a bomb
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Lizard3 on November 26, 2002, 11:51:34 PM
I would say extremely stupid Idea, but I guess I would go for it if it could be used only at the base Lazs is uppin at. :)
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Toad on November 27, 2002, 12:16:35 AM
Beetle, how misguided you are.

Nothing could be further from the truth in his suggestion.

He isn't telling ANYONE how to play; can't you see even that?

He merely suggested that a weapon, which WAS used in WW2 combat by the US, be included in the game as a perk. It would then be up to the individual player to decide if he wanted to use his perks and risk them on the way to target.

It's an idea that matches the gist of what has been in my sig block here for years.

Individual choice in using provided game pieces/options. What could possibly be wrong with that? You have a real tough time with that "individual freedom to choose" stuff don't you?

You might try a more structured game...... something like bridge maybe?

But, anyway, you feel free to go ahead and tell him how it was in WB and how you think it could be better here if only folks would listen to your wise counsel.
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: funkedup on November 27, 2002, 12:18:26 AM
I think a nuke would be cool.
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Mitsu on November 27, 2002, 12:35:23 AM
a political feature.
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: vorticon on November 27, 2002, 01:07:11 PM
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which WAS used in WW2 combat by the US,


2 times...not exactly considered used


if you consider that used then where the hell is our soptwith camel??? that was used a bit at the start

what about the dehaviland vampire??? second british jet...if the germans can have theres why cant we have ours? (i know it didnt actually see combat in ww2 but there were about 1000 made)

and how about the 4k bomb for the mossie???

or the grandslam?

anyway wed have to have a b29 t ocarry it
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: DamnedRen on November 27, 2002, 05:02:30 PM
:D

Please give the poor fellow a nice response even if it really is a really stupid idea. The correct response is:

"Good idea! We'll take it under advisement. Thanks! Now get back in your box"
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Wlfgng on November 27, 2002, 05:22:12 PM
YES to the nuke!!!

of course,,, only for the Pizza map and it would force a reset...
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Karnak on November 27, 2002, 05:25:34 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
if you consider that used then where the hell is our soptwith camel??? that was used a bit at the start

Er, no.

There were no Sopwith Camels used in WWII.  Wherever did you get that frightful idea?

To get the 4,000lb bomb for the Mossie, lobby HTC for a Mosquito B.Mk XVI.  The Mosquito FB.Mk VI that we have certainly couldn't and didn't carry a 4,000lb bomb.  Complaining that we haven't got a loadout for a plane we haven't got is silly.
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: cajun on November 27, 2002, 05:36:57 PM
Be carefull when suggesting things, especially on general discussion boards.  You should see the flames I got when I just suggested adding World War II Biplanes :D

But I don't really like the Idea, I mean it was only used twice, in the MA however it would be used like 1-2 times a week, it'd turn into nuclear cold war and stuff, dont think it'd be a good idea.

Only thing it could be used for (Imo) is maybe a atomic bomb scenario but couldnt really build much of a scenario on that :)
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Toad on November 27, 2002, 08:36:16 PM
Let's see.. how many times SHOULD we have used it?

Jeez, LW guys find a record of a single kill for some plane and use that as justification for inclusion.

I'd think using the bomb until the enemy surrendered unconditionally would qualify as well. Or should we have dropped another one after they surrendered? Maybe gone back and whacked the Germans with one just to make sure?

(Yeah, I know. We only had enough stuff for the two of them at the time. Save it.)
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: beet1e on November 28, 2002, 01:20:30 PM
LOL Toad!  An 11 line reply to a 2 line quip.  :D:D
I see you worked on that post for an hour - was that the best you could do?
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: DamnedRen on November 28, 2002, 01:30:28 PM
Gee, Beetle. If I get banned for a month from this
list for calling you a handsomehunk then it was well worth it.

For anyone to take an Aces High BB and turn it in his personal medium for gun control is the ultimate in arrogance and should be banned for interjecting pure BS into a game that was designed to be fun for everyone.

Leave your political BS at home when you come here.
Can we spell
D  U  M  B  A  S  S?

Opps! Muted for this? OK!

And, no DA, it took me a whole minute to type this.
Ren
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: beet1e on November 28, 2002, 03:05:06 PM
DamnedRen  :)

It's quite all right - just stepping in here so that skuz knows that I was not offended by what you said.

One of the MANY freedoms in America is that of free speech - am I right? All I'm doing in my sig is exercising that right. I do not believe there is any HTC rule governing the length of a sig. I have had that sig for weeks, and skuzzy has not written to me to tell me to remove it - though I must quickly point out that I accept fully that he may or may not agree with it.

Hmm, judging by the amount of post I get on that sig., I'm beginning to believe that the freedom is actually "Freedom of speech - as long as you agree with most Americans that post on this board."  :rolleyes:
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: DamnedRen on November 28, 2002, 04:06:05 PM
I guess I need to apologize to you. Since I don't think you are American and happen to be jealous of what the old colonials have made of themselves, guns and all....I guess you're comments are acceptable. It must be difficult living under those taxes and laws which restrict human develpment.

BTW, there is immigration although you may need to hold you opinions until you've been here a while, takenthe oath and declared American.

Ren:o
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: poopster on November 28, 2002, 04:26:10 PM
Having saved up the necessary 3000 perk points...

I give now you a reset of the pizza map....
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: beet1e on November 28, 2002, 04:46:24 PM
LOL Poop!

DamnedRen - no apology needed. I have no plans to emigrate to the US, although I do have  British friend there - but he has a green card, not citizenship, as he doesn't want to give up UK citizenship.  You're right - the taxes here are getting ridiculous - implemented by a government for which I did not vote.
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: BenDover on November 28, 2002, 05:31:04 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
anyway wed have to have a b29 t ocarry it



no we wouldn't

stick it on a lanc mk1 special

grand slams, and tall boys, and bouncing bombs, oh my!
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Saurdaukar on November 28, 2002, 06:13:56 PM
Its a wonder we have any new ideas from the community anymore with replies like these.

"Hey guys, I have an idea!  Hows about...?? What do you think?"

"...YOURE A MORON AND SHOULD BE SHOT!!  DIE LOSER!!!  THATS THE DUMBEST IDEA I EVER HEARD... THE FIRST TIME I HEARD IT!!"


If it gets rid of Pizza in a blinding flash, Im all for it... but then we'd have reflective glass for the terrain instead of yellow sand... so Im not sure if it would be an improvement.  ;)
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: mia389 on November 29, 2002, 05:02:58 AM
A Abomb would be cool just let me know where its gonna hit,Ill be sure to log off. Yes, The B-29 would be awsome.:)
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: poopster on November 29, 2002, 11:12:13 AM
Well ya gotta have the blinding flash and the cloud before everything goes black..

The ultimate reset. Gotta be dam expensive. I would think Lazs might finally use his perk points for chance to reset pizza..

5000 perkies ?? Sounds about right. I'd start saving them up today :D

Side note to greybeards of the sixties. This photo look familier ?? Whos album cover was it on and what was the name of the album ?
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: mrsid2 on November 29, 2002, 11:47:35 AM
Its a great idea.. I've brought it up about a year ago and got similar feedback. Some loved it some hated.

IMO a flashy nuke to end the war would be FAR better than ending up fighting with 3 remaining fields and nobody pushing for the reset.

The nuke should IMO be activated only when the enemy has been reduced to 2-4 fields though.
Title: nuke
Post by: Turbo76 on November 29, 2002, 12:29:16 PM
BTW- why would nuke have to end war? it would only destroy 1 field, right?
:confused:


(http://C:\Documents and Settings\new user\Desktop\BDA\66\b29)
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: lazs2 on November 29, 2002, 12:32:48 PM
"It's a dangerous business having ideas for AH. Toad will come along and accuse you of trying to dictate exactly how everyone else in the community should play.


__________________
Warbirds handle was SCRMBL. Email: orangebeet1e@yahoo.co.uk"

as oppossed to beetle who will tell you not only how to play but how to live.
lazs

"Alan Travis, home affairs editor
Friday February 23, 2001
The Guardian

England and Wales have one of the worst crime records in the industrialised world - even worse than America - according to the findings of an official survey published yesterday which compares the experience of victims across 17 countries.
The study, coordinated by the Dutch ministry of justice, shows England and Wales at the top of the world league with Australia as the countries where you are most likely to become a victim of crime. These countries face an annual rate of 58 crimes for every 100 inhabitants.

The findings, based on interviews with 35,000 people about their experience of crime across the 17 countries, were carried out last year. They are a blow to Labour's record and underline the challenge facing Tony Blair when he marks the launch of Labour's 10-year anti-crime plan next Monday by becoming the first serving prime minister to visit a prison.

The 2000 International Crime Victimisation survey shows that the falls in crime recorded since the mid-1990s in England and Wales are part of a general pattern of falling crime across the industrialised world but, unlike America, crime levels in England and Wales are still higher than they were at the end of the 1980s. When the survey was last carried out in 1996, England and Wales also topped the league table with 61 offences per 100 inhabitants.

The survey does show, however, that Britain has the best services when it comes to looking after the victims of crime, but it also shows we have a tougher approach to punishing criminals. Asked what should be done with a burglar convicted of stealing a colour television for a second time, more than 50% in England and Wales said he or she should be sent to prison for two years. Only 7% in Spain and 12% in France thought he or she should be jailed at all.

People were asked whether they had been victims of a range of 11 different offences in the previous 12 months, including violent and sexual assault, car crime, burglary and consumer fraud.

The survey also shows that Scotland, with 43 offences per 100 inhabitants, ranks joint fifth alongside America in the international crime league behind England, Australia, the Netherlands and Sweden. Northern Ireland has the second best crime record of the countries surveyed, with 24 offences per 100 inhabitants - the same rate as Switzerland and only just above Japan where the biggest crime problem is bicycle thefts. The detailed findings of the ICVS survey showthat England and Wales are top of the international league for car thefts with 2.6% of all car owners suffering the loss of their vehicle in the previous 12 months. In other sorts of car crime, England was second only to Poland.

Australia and then England and Wales had the highest burglary rates and rates for violent crimes such as robbery, assault and sexual assault "

the result of the backward thinking of the home office is the brutalizing of its helpless citizens... helpless to defend themselves against the strong and the vicious... a trajic example of "form over substance"... "let them eat cake" The lawless run england... In America... 3,000,000 such crimes are prevented by firearms each year... citizens have freedom and dignity one good thing about englands crime rate.... they have, obviously by necessity, learned to care for the traumatized, humiliated and injured victims...guess that's something
Title: for a NUKE- we need this
Post by: Turbo76 on November 29, 2002, 12:35:55 PM
I want one for Christmas:D
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Wlfgng on November 29, 2002, 12:39:51 PM
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Hmm, judging by the amount of post I get on that sig., I'm beginning to believe that the freedom is actually "Freedom of speech - as long as you agree with most Americans that post on this board."


actually no.  Freedom of speech comes with a price...
you must give others the right to practice it as well.. even if they cut your side of the debate to shreds.

FWIW lengthier replies do not necessarily mean a more thought out response.  
Brevity takes more intelligence and thought.
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Shiva on November 29, 2002, 01:03:44 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Hmm, judging by the amount of post I get on that sig., I'm beginning to believe that the freedom is actually "Freedom of speech - as long as you agree with most Americans that post on this board."


Bett1e, you have to realize that freedom of speech works both ways. You are free to say what you want, as long as you don't endanger or damage someone else in the process, and everyone else is free to object to your saying it. They can't stop you from saying it, but they can -- and often will go on at extreme length about how wrongheaded your position is. One of the things I have noticed about online communities is the eternal willingness of people to spend months beating the reddish-colored spot on the ground that used to be occupied by a dead horse until it got pounded into mulch and beaten thoroughly into the dirt.
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: beet1e on November 29, 2002, 01:20:03 PM
LOL    as opposed to Lazs, who is a Captain in the Sig. Police.

Shiva - I don't have to do anything! My sig. appears automatically. :)
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: jaystang87 on November 30, 2002, 01:20:56 PM
I think we should have a b-29 and the nuke, but it should only be available offline.  Even if it was 5,000 perk points, if someone used a b-29 and the hiroshima (sp?) it would be too cheap.  We need one for offline though,  it'd be so fun
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: TheManx on November 30, 2002, 02:12:59 PM
There's an offline mode to Aces High??? :D
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Matt1221b on November 30, 2002, 07:00:07 PM
i want the b-29 more than anything, and the he-111 or the Do-217 added, we need more multi-engined bombers
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: 715 on November 30, 2002, 07:42:05 PM
If perked at the levels suggested it would have essentially zero effect on the game.  It would basically take out one field and the nearby town or could be used to take out the HQ (which is easy to do now anyway).  Even a fusion bomb (not available in WWII) would not take out more than a sector.  Even that would have little effect (especially in the Pizza map).
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: poopster on November 30, 2002, 08:35:06 PM
Nah 715 we don't want realistic damage parameters.

If you save up 3 to 5000 perkies, when you drop it, it's OVER.

Accompanied with the graphic representation of the firestorm that sends pizza to the reset locker...

:D
Title: i have an idea for AH
Post by: Shark88 on December 01, 2002, 04:23:33 PM
it would make the destroying of a field a 100 times easier:D