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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: cars on October 04, 2001, 06:07:00 PM
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just d/l 1.08 and I have the same problem I had when I tried beta 15. I get 1 frame per 8-9 seconds, even on the clipboard trying to get in :( I posted my problem on the beta board but never got an answer. The beta also messed up the reg version to the point i had to delete AH and do a clean install. I guess I'm done playing unless someone has an answer.
cars
P2 266 o/c to 300
128 megs ram
2 voodoo2 8 meg in sli
soundblaster pci 64
pdpi gamecard
windows 98se
DX7
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Sorry but V2's are no longer enof card to handle AH.
HiTech
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ouch
cars, get a TNT2 - they're real cheap online
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c'mon you can get 550 p2s at second hand and surplus houses for less than 30$ usd, UPGRADE . 300 for playing pong nowadays.
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I gotta say it I have a voodoo3 sitting here and a 350mhz PII chip.
I can get a voodoo3 for £25 and the 350PII ive never seen for sale as its so old.
even a 1 gig athlon is around £100.
upgrade mate, upgrade,its dirt cheap at the moment.get another 128 meg of ram for £20!
what i payed £400 for early this year (900 athlon,ka7araid mobo,gf2mx) is around £260 or less now.
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What makes u think a 550 P2 is sufficient oki?
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Find some spear cash :)
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a p2 266 with a 8meg voodoo 2 is 4.5 year old technology. you guys with less than 500 mhz and 32 meg vid cards gotta get with the times
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Well there's some sympathetic crap for ya...some people actually have to put food in other peoples mouths and cloths on other peoples backs...gimme a break, sok though, reality strikes us all at some point in life, yours is comin too. BTW Zigrat, does Mommie pay for your upgrades?
[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: aztec ]
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Humm look at this two ways. People have to decide what is more important. In Jan 95 I purchesed a top of the line P1 100mhz with 8mg ram and a 2 gig hard drive. Cost me 1,195.00 US$. Played AW with it sucussefuly. In Oct 97' I purchesed the very best just came out that day a P1 233mmx with 40 mb ram and 6 gig paid 2,300.00 US$. In June of 00' I bought a 550 P3 20 gig 128mb ram 32mb ati. Paid 2,210.00 US$ This puter i use now and works well with about any game. Today I finish my 1.2 ghz athlon system that I have pieced togeather by winning auctions on the net. I will have roughly 800.00 US$ in system and that includes a monitor. A word of advice is try using auctions for hardware notice the big price difference. I could not afford to just go out and buy another 2,000.00 system and thus found ways around it. I actually quit smoking for 2 weeks to buy a hard drive. Back when computers were catching on games were pushing the manifactures to produce higer end machines. Now the machines have surpassed the software industry. Name me one game that requires a 2.0 ghz. Thus you have a hardware market that is laying off employees beacuse of lack of demand of the high end machines. I couldnt afford high end so I built my first PC for a whole lot less. Look at your problems and try to find a solution before giveing up you can do it. Good luck hope this info helps.
Slayer :D
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Old P2 333 with a 16 meg tnt1 giving me playable FPS 20-30 avg. Not great and Id just as soon box the old tired machine up and take a vacation anyway but v1.08 was surprisingly playable last night.
Y
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Thanks for the quick response HT.
cars
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Originally posted by Yeager:
Old P2 333 with a 16 meg tnt1 giving me playable FPS 20-30 avg. Not great and Id just as soon box the old tired machine up and take a vacation anyway but v1.08 was surprisingly playable last night.
Y
Well that is just splendid. I am not much faster but would have expected better with my system. I am runnign a P3 500, 32 mg Geforce2 MX, 384mg of RAM, on win2k and I get about the same FPS as you do with 1.08. With 1.07 rev3 I averaged in the 40-50 range. But I know I will need to upgrade if I want to play. the ole sayign "you play, you pay" does apply.
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why should i be sympathetic?
you lost a loved one? sure ill be sympathetic. your house burned down? hell yeah ill be sympathetic. you cant afford a new computer to play video games? dont come whining to us about it. spend the time you *were* playing aces high at a second job for the next couple months and you *will* be able to afford it :)
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zigrat I'm not whining to ANYBODY about it. I didn't know what the prob was so I asked. If I need a upgrade, fine, I'll just have to wait till I can afford it. As for getting a second job... you little punk, I'm a disabled veteran and the days of me having ANY job was gone probably before you were born. I live on a stinkin VA pension and you jumping in a thread that has nothing to do with you to call me a whiner is way out of line. Do you really think I didn't know I'd have to upgrade at some point? HT answered my question right away, no prob, no whines.
cars
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Where in Maine?
Just upgraded from a Voodoo3 3000 into a Voodoo 5500....its AGP, you got an AGP slot in that thing?
BTW: I'm in Bangor.
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Uh cars.... I think zigrat was responding to aztecs post.
And yes, it is a painful process to upgrade to play games. I've done it since my first 286 (the only complete system I've ever bought) and gaming has been the only reason I have ever HAD to upgrade my home system. I I remember having to change both a vid card and relatively new p1-100 processor when AW made the move to Win 95. Didn't have a lot of extra cash at the time, and the "upgrade" didn't make for a better game, but I did want to keep playing the game. AH has to grow or it will face the same stagnation AW faces and is paying for now. And with hardware prices as low as they are, it's easier than ever to spend under $300 to adequately boost a basic gaming machine for another 2 years or so of playing.
Charon
[ 10-05-2001: Message edited by: Charon ]
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charon,
aztec can still play. Hes not telling aztec to get a 2nd job to upgrade. zigrat told ME to use the time I "was" playing to get a 2nd job. Playing AH puts a lot of fun in my life but its just a game. Its not the end of the world if I can't play for a while. I just don't like some punk that doesn't know the situation injecting his snot-nosed attitude and calling me a whiner, its something he damn sure wouldn't do face to face.
cars
PS paul, I'll e-mail ya
I guess I won't e-mail ya, I thought the e-mail address was in the profile section. I don't know if I've got an AGP slot or not. I suspect I need more than just a new vid card. It was just barely playable before the new version. I'll just have to wait. Thanks anyway
cars
[ 10-05-2001: Message edited by: cars ]
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i was responding to aztec, who critisized me for not being sympathetic, not you cars
thanks for serving our country
<S>
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Cars, you are reading entirely too much into what Zig said.
Take it for what it's worth, it's time to upgrade.
I've got a C466, it's over 2 years old. In computer years, that's 100 years old.
It's time for me to upgrade, and I can't afford it. I'll just keep playing with my measly 14fps until I can afford an upgrade.
It's time to upgrade if you've got less than 800Mhz anyway, AH is only the tip of the iceberg- new games coming out in the next few months or Q1 next year will be pushing 800Mhz as far as they can go.
Anything less will be like playing Unreal on a P100.
-SW
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Zigrat, HT had already pointed out quite clearly that his system had fallen behind...what exactly was the point of then coming to this thread to make a comment like you guys gotta get with the times? Sorry but to me it sounds like kicking someone when their down.
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Cars
if your intrested in sqeezing out every fps u can get out of that card/system you should look in to over clocking that card, as well as other tweaks to increase proformance.
Theres a lot of things you can do, as you may already know since you got your cpu o/c.
If you dont have your bois/harddrive/ram/os already tweaked for max proformance i belive you could get another 10-15 fps, which would intern make it atleast playable. As of now im sure that it is like watching a slide show, no fun atll.
Years ago when i first became a proformance nerd i found Tweak3D (http://www.tweak3d.net) to be one hell of a resource for adjusting anything and everything inside your PC.
Another good resource is HardOCP (http://www.hardocp.com) The only draw back of that site is that it is mainly newer equipment, but if you indeed plan on upgrading in the future please buy all means check that site out, they test everything in comparison. Intel does not want you to check out this web site, people will find out how good the currect AMD's are compared to there CPUs (at a fraction of the cost) :D
Good luck, hope this helps.
[ 10-05-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]
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Cars,
I have a voodoo 3 2000 PCI card I am not using. If you want, e-mail me you address and I'll send it to ya. This should still play AH and have fps in the 40's up with the latest tweak drivers from the omega web site. I was getting 50's with a voodoo 3 3000 and same driver until the card dumped on me in v1.07.
Drop me a line buddy.
PS to all who are upgrading or have upgraded this is a good time to spread the stuff that still works to others who can use it. If you can do NOTHING else give it to a school to use for kids.
Mav
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Cars...
My email is webmaster@checksix.net
The card Im willing to sell very inexpensively is a 3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 AGP. $20. Someone has a PCI version that will work in your PC, if you do not have an AGP slot, grab theirs.
My other PC has a Voodoo 3 PCI and I was pondering yanking it out, and putting the Voodoo3 AGP there so I could run multiple monitors on mine. (No more alt-tabbing! Just do some Delphi coding while my Lancaster continues to climb!)
Take care
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I would have given ya my 3D Prophet Geforce DDR 32 meg for Free, But I already gave it away.
By the looks of your system, I Dont think it may have mattered though :sad: your only PCI right?
All I have is AGP cards.
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cars, If you have an AGP slot, I'll mail you a Diamond Viper 770 TNTII 32 meg card with drivers. Won't cost you a dime.
Email me if this suits you...
hblair@cybrtyme.com
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Dam there are some nice people in our community<Salute>
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My hat fell off my X36 for the 3rd time.
Does anyone have one of those new X45's with the cool new spring they can send me? HB?
I'd work overtime for it but am worried about the higher tax bracket.
Thanks in advance.
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Aztec, go take a hike...
right over to the computor store, get yourself and upgrade....
and......
Cars, sorry man, hope to see you soon back up!
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It might be worth mentioning that the future patches to 1.08 may improve fps somewhat...
This happens with EVERY new version, wait until about patch 3 or 4 before you make any harsh decisions.
:)
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All of you chaps that are saying that upgrading is dirt cheap: please pool in a few bucks to the Santa Foundation.
As it is, I get absolutely zip over after I pay my bills. Students have it rough, economically. So, even $1 is insurmountable if you haven't got a cent.
Please, send money to the Santa Foundation.
Fek, outta the game now
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Did you check your last shippment Santa?
Im sure I let it ride.
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Originally posted by Creamo:
My hat fell off my X36 for the 3rd time.
Does anyone have one of those new X45's with the cool new spring they can send me? HB?
I'd work overtime for it but am worried about the higher tax bracket.
Thanks in advance.
Those are junk.
You want my old Microsoft Force Feedback stick?
;)