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Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: moose on November 25, 2002, 11:05:07 PM

Hey, just a couple questions.

Where can I find a good beginners guide to painting and weathering my models? I'm getting better each time with the basics, but now I want a real nice paint job that will draw attention.  I found an interesting site that shows a couple things I'd like to try for panel lines - http://www.flinstone.it/weathering.htm - but any other tips you experts can toss would be much appreciated.

Also, I'm getting ready to start my Hasegawa 109G-14 , 1/32 scale, but looking at the cockpit it's asking for light blue instead of the grey im used to - were 109 'pits really that color?


edit - also, what should i be using to mask with? (both the model and cockpit glass)

scotch tape rips off paint thats already there and is tough to use. plus it ruins my canopies :(

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: Yeager on November 26, 2002, 12:05:01 AM

Here are some sights I frequent with a wealth of information and products for plasitc modeling.

http://208.178.228.100/meteor/enter.html
(search on 109 under product listing) Here you will find resource books and especially interesting is the canopy masks they provide for painting.  You can purchase these precut masks for specific kits.

http://www.hyperscale.com/

http://www.verlinden-productions.com/

http://www.kithobbyist.com/

:)

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: Mathman on November 26, 2002, 12:09:33 AM

109 freak,

Go to the 109 Lair (http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/).  There may be some ideas and such here that you can use.

Make sure you don't get lost on the way.

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: moose on November 26, 2002, 01:04:59 AM

ordered a camo mask from meteor, thanks yeager

that 109 site is very useful as well mathslut

i can't seem to find a canopy mask set for the Hasegawa g-14. they have em for the g-6 but my understanding is that the canopy was changed (even though the g-14 is a modified g-6)

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: senna on November 26, 2002, 03:21:26 AM

>Where can I find a good beginners guide to painting and
>weathering my models.

IMO, no such thing since it just takes alot of practice, tril and error approach. The more material you have for pictures and inspiration the better though. Heres some suggestions.

Book: How to build the Misserchmitd 109 (paperback, covers most kits, scales, painting/weathering, as well as flaws). Theres one for the P-40 also, check at local hobbyshop as I've seen this book around alot.

Check out Hyperscale and Verlinden magazines, great inspiration there.

Scale Aviation Modeler is the magazine to subscribe to if your active in building.

WingMaster, a french model magazine is also excellante but its in french. Good pictures.

yes, 109 cockpit was blue/grey RLM#. I would recommend getting a copy of the Testors Model Master paint catalog. Its free at the hobbyshop near the paints. Its got an index of all the paint chips of colors they make. Good to use that as a basis to compare colors between brands.

>Masking tape.

Tamaya Masking tape, thats the best paint tape for models. Also youll want some liquid mask like Mr Mask from Gunze Sango. Use both if you have to for cockpit frames, whatever works best. Always cut masking (paper/liquid rubber) with a fresh or very sharp blade. I personally use a regular Xacto-knife for building then switch to the disposable testors-razor for masking. Testors got the sharpest razor blade on the planet.

>Dull ruined canopies:
You can also get a bottle of "plastic/jewlery model polish" and polish out clear plastic parts. Use Elmer glue to glue canopies (no fogging) but fit has to be good.

enjoy...

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: Dowding (Work) on November 26, 2002, 03:28:38 AM

I used to paint Games Workshop models as a kid - it's all about creating the shadows and highlighting areas that are exposed, while taking into account the type of surface. I found coloured inks to be very effective in giving a model depth, although I've never used them on a plane.

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: moose on November 26, 2002, 04:39:10 AM

thanks for the tips guys,

about cockpit masking - what is the 'correct' way of doing it? what I did with scotch tape was to simply put down the tape, then cut out the frames with an exacto knife.

im wondering if there is another way that i havent thought of yet

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: senna on November 26, 2002, 05:00:11 AM

For canopies, use lotsa little strips or pieces. That way the mask can conform around the canopy. Course, use straight edges for canopy rails etc...Tear stick tear stick. Look  like tape camo when its all masked with lotsa patches on frames and straight edges against rail edes etc...

So if you use the tape edges againt the rails then patch with pieces you wont have to cut so much on the canopy.

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: moose on November 26, 2002, 08:20:33 AM

here is the A-4 I've nearly completed, just need to add some touch up paint here and there.

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: Pongo on November 26, 2002, 10:37:41 AM

looks great Moose!

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: -ammo- on November 26, 2002, 04:48:58 PM

rec.models.scale

Awesome resource for you.  I suggest you setup your news readedr and check it out.

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: poopster on November 26, 2002, 06:01:32 PM

Nice A4 :)

This Mag available through Kalmbach Books has some good stuff in it. They also have one on dioramas that has some good ideas.

Title: more modelling - weathering questions, 109 cockpit colors, etc
Post by: Pongo on November 29, 2002, 10:54:53 AM

Moose..
excellent weathering article on Hyperscale..



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