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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on November 28, 2002, 10:20:59 PM
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Wrote his own speeches.
Case in point:
"Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure.
We are met on a great battlefield of that war.
We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live.
It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground.
The brave men, living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract.
The world will little note nor long remember what we say here,
but it can never forget what they did here.
It is for us the living rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.
It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us --
that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion --
that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain,
that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom,
and that government of the people, by the people,
for the people shall not perish from the earth."
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Tronsky
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can't be Yeager, he said the G__ word :)
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TR still gets my vote.
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My goodness, I agree with MT.
TR was a hero.
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I agree that Abraham Lincoln was the greastest president that we have had. I have thought so for many years.
Of course, back then the Republicans were the liberals....
(Eagler, this God is evil delusional rant you've been on for a bit is getting pretty pathetic. You might want to find a new stick)
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Originally posted by Karnak
(Eagler, this God is evil delusional rant you've been on for a bit is getting pretty pathetic. You might want to find a new stick)
uh?
I don't have a problem with Him. I find it amazing others do.
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Eagler,
I know you don't have a problem with God. I think I mangled what I was trying to say.
You seem to think that athiests (such as myself) have a huge problem with God, and people who believe in God.
This just isn't so.
I fully support your right to believe as you wish, and in fact would put my life on the line in defense of our country should anybody, external or internal, try to take away your right to so believe.
I have absolutely no problem with a politician, past or present, affirming their belief in God. It doesn't make me think any less of them.
What I'm getting at is that your current "stick" is a fake, and it is making you look silly.
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TR must be Ted Roosevelt. Im a little shallow on my TR history, what exactly did he do besides establish some grand monuments and natural preservations as well as charge up that hill in, was it Cuba....?
And the famous "speak softly, carry a big stick" thing?
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First of all, He was anemic as a child. His health was very poor. But he refused to let that get to him. He set so many goals ahead of which he accomplished. I suggest his Bio to you.
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lincon was a corporate lawyer who ran his campaigns as if he were a rail-splittin' blue collar type - quite disingenuous...& he only freed the slaves (only ones in rebel states - union slave states - Maryland - kept 'em) a military strategy (hoping for a slave revolt in the south) not as some sort of good deed.
also, his hat was too tall
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Washington was the greatest president we ever had, for the sole reason that he didn't betray the revolution when he easily could have . When his work was done, he went back to his farm . I can't think of any revolutionary leader that did not betray the revolution except in greek mythology . Lincoln was the second greatest . TR did a lot for the free world in terms of geograpy and global strategy, most notably he accomplished the panama canal where two empires before had failed .
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Yeager did you know that that speech was written on the fly on the trainride down to gettysburg . Nowadays presidential addresses are written deliberately bland with plain speak so as to be more palatable to the public . It's too bad that presidential speeches cannot be written in that calibre of prose in modern times .
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William Henry Harrison ... Less time, less mistakes. :D
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Who was the guy that went against Jefferson the guy who started the electoral college, I forgot was it Adams? Ifso than he is the best President if not for him Dufus Gore would be in the White House right now Thank you Adams I think...
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TR was the first (only?) standing President to earn a Nobel Peace Prize. He implemented the National Park system, he was instrumental in breaking up the large trusts including the Railroad Barons who threatened to run the country from their Newport estates. He also shepharded the country into the Industrial age and helped establish the US as a world power.
On a personal note he was the leading authority in the world on a particular bird species (I forget which one), he was an avid outdoorsman and fitness freak. And finally his son was the commanding officer on the beach at Utah Beach on D-Day (Brigadier Gen. Teddy Roosevelt Jr.)
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Originally posted by MrBill
William Henry Harrison ... Less time, less mistakes. :D
hehe..yup..I was gonna say Ford.
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If how you got to the presidency is based on where you started. How about being poor in an arkansas town, going to public schools in one of the worse states for educational stats. Getting a Rhodes Scholarship, running a state in your 30s and being the president during one of the most spectacular economies, leaving office with a 1.6 trillion dollar surplus.
Took george about 18 months to squander and give it away.
HC
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well... I don't think so hardcase... I mean.. Lincoln was born in a log cabin and Hitler was a private in the army. Clinton flunked out of the rhodes program.
lazs
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Originally posted by hardcase
If how you got to the presidency is based on where you started. How about being poor in an arkansas town, going to public schools in one of the worse states for educational stats. Getting a Rhodes Scholarship, running a state in your 30s and being the president during one of the most spectacular economies, leaving office with a 1.6 trillion dollar surplus.
Took george about 18 months to squander and give it away.
HC
LOL
you forgot - likes head from fat chicks his daughters age in the oral office while selling nuclear secrets to the red chinese for dem $$$
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Originally posted by lazs2
well... I don't think so hardcase... I mean.. Lincoln was born in a log cabin and Hitler was a private in the army. Clinton flunked out of the rhodes program.
lazs
You making stuff up again Lazs?
"Clinton and Oxford
Former President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, was a Rhodes Scholar at University College from 1968 to 1970, where he studied for a BPhil in Politics. He came to Oxford from Georgetown University.
He began studying PPE (Politics, Philosophy and Economics) but soon switched to a postgraduate course in Politics. His tutors reported that they were pleased with his progress, adding that he was an intelligent and hard-working student. In August 1970 he won a place at Yale Law School and decided to continue his studies there, rather than return to Oxford."
That is from a University of Oxford press release...