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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: muckmaw on December 02, 2002, 02:43:39 PM
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HTC, make the check out to Fester, and let's move on.:D
BTW, Fester, you lost all my respect on Saturday night. I'll forgave the fact that you were camping a spawn point with a Panzer. It's when I put 2 shells into you, and you bailed instead of taking it like a man that I lost all respect! :D
Seriously, I need the kills alot more than you do. You could have sat there another 3 seconds!
Anyway, Top 15 pilots get a $100 cash. So what will this do? Score padding? Less suicide Jabos? More chutes to kill?
Your thoughts?
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HTC must have loads of cash and doing great or are in trouble and desperate for an advertising gimmick... :D
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doesn't affect me either way.
I couldn't care less about score.
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And the score potatos will become even more psychotic when they are shot down.
I cant wait for the constant breakdowns that will happen in channel 1!
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NOW score actually means something.
Guess I'll have to hop into some buffs and GVs now.
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I hope it isn't going to end up as a cash incentive for kill stealing and other such reprehensible actions...time will tell.
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Originally posted by aztec
I hope it isn't going to end up as a cash incentive for kill stealing and other such reprehensible actions...time will tell.
It only means that Mitsu is going to spend twice as much time online looking for vulching oportunities ;)
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While I respect the intentions of HTC with this...
Kills over time..... nuff said (I land my kills and am penalized.)
Points: Look at some of the top points scorers note the amount of sorties:
I cant quit my income paying job to get the amount of time some of the current score whoring jackals have to play this game....
Dont take my word for it go pull up the ranks page yourself and view the pilots who make up that ranking page ....
You might be amazed how some of these dweebs make it up there.
Dweeb A
K/D 2.00 points 2 zillion....
Rank 20
Doctoryo
KD 12.3 points feeble 200 sorties cannot compete....
rank 125
You do the math....
DoctorYO
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I don't think killstealing really helps your rank that much.
Its comparitively easy to get a high fighter rank- you just have to be halfway decent.
Attack rank isn't to bad, bomber and GV rank are a little tougher.
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lol Animal! This is gonna be great! :D
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Wish I had the time to compete, scores are heavily based on numbers of kills(Read "time online" into that one), when you get 150 or less each month (ATA) kinda takes you out of the loop...
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I'm also reading into that post that V1.11 will not be ready this month, so this is a distraction for us.
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Great way for HTC to find out how people "min/max" the score system isn't it?
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
While I respect the intentions of HTC with this...
Kills over time..... nuff said (I land my kills and am penalized.)
Points: Look at some of the top points scorers note the amount of sorties:
I cant quit my income paying job to get the amount of time some of the current score whoring jackals have to play this game....
Dont take my word for it go pull up the ranks page yourself and view the pilots who make up that ranking page ....
You might be amazed how some of these dweebs make it up there.
Dweeb A
K/D 2.00 points 2 zillion....
Rank 20
Doctoryo
KD 12.3 points feeble 200 sorties cannot compete....
rank 125
You do the math....
DoctorYO
I think this is a rather common misconception. Granted, time online does play a role (especially for overall rank- how else are you going to get your rank decent in everything?), but 'points' isn't a 'major' part of the rank. It is 1/5th of what goes into fighter rank. The other four categories are weighted the same as points are.
I think what killed your rank was kills per hour, not points. Your K/T is really low.
Also, I don't think that 'landing your kills' has a negative effect on your score. It lowers K/T some (not by much, imo), but it raises K/D and points.
Being outstanding in one category (in your case, K/D) doesn't do as much for your rank as being 'good' in all the categories.
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I dont think time online translates to rank. I know it doesnt.
Bradys 5 has less then 10 hours in fighter mode but has an 142 kills and 20 deaths and is ranked 74th in fighters. He averages 15 kills per hour. and 3 per Sortie. Hes ranked 9th overall with 42 main hours.
I have 44 hours in Fighters and am only ranked 102.
Some use "time online" as an excuse.
There are only maybe 50 guys in ah that are capable of pulling this off.
The rest of us can have fun hunting umm down by order of rank..... :)
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Might be interesting watching everyone try for these prizes but with all of the oddities built into the ranking system (base capture a part of bombing) I don't see how it's really going to work.
I'm agreeing with Ripsnort on both of his posts.
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Time online does translate into rank in that the more time online, the more time to do damage. If you look at the scoring page that Pyro references in his post, there are quite a few score components that are cumulative and not based on "per sortie".
I do like that any one person can only rank in the "top 15" once in the four month period. That was a nice touch.
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Hmmm...when you bail, does that make your score "better" than if you die? And if your chute gets shot, does that make your sortie count as a death rather than a "bail"?
Sounds like even more incentive to shoot the meatwads hanging under the canopies. :D
Step up and do your part to help keep someone from winning $100. :)
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Maybe HTC will let us redeem our Perkies for swell prizes.
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so let me see if I've been studying the BBS correctly.
1st) Sit in your hanger and shoot the walls.
2nd) Take Moosie when vulch light is on.
3rd) land 15+ vulch run
4th) Blow up some stuff with a bomber/gunner/osti
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I like it. WTG HTC good move.
BTW is it really necessary to discuss every little thing - just a question?
If so: my hamster has terrible flatulence, any comments?
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Originally posted by Animal
It only means that Mitsu is going to spend twice as much time online looking for vulching oportunities ;)
OK! OK!
Stay on the runway of a deacked field for 4 months, Animal.
I'm gonna vulch only you! :p
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What about giving the right of releasing own favorite planes in Aces high, instead of money?
Then I would get a #1 rank in each tour, and I request the following planes to HTC:
1st month: Ki-100
2nd month: Ki-44
3rd month: Ki-45
4th month: Ki-43
Championship Shootout: Ki-84
:D
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IMO, this isn't the direction HTC should be going in.
Prizes for Scenario or SE's OK but to monitarily award score whoring in the MA will be just another step closer to the arcade play that I got into this type of game to get away from.
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This seems really stupid to me. Of coarse, if I was one of the very few players who might actually be able to compete for this I might think otherwise, but I think this is just going to be used as justification by those few players to do all sorts of "gamey" things to enhance their scores even more. This will make the MA an even more unpleasant place than it already is IMO.
Very sad if HTC actually thinks this is a good move to attract more interest in AH. What with all the possible fixes, enhancements, additional planes, GVs, strat, etc. that could be added to the game to increase the enjoyment of the bulk of its customers, I find it mildly disturbing that they have chosen this avenue in which to funnel their (our?) precious development time and money in order to reward a very small minority of the player base.
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Mickey I just proved you with proof time online doesnt translate to rank.
I know how the rank system works in ah. The most competive 2 parts of fighter rank are kill per sortie and kill per time online.
You can online for 300 hours and a kd of 20 to 1 and a damage per sortie that ranks number 1 but if dont have atleat a 2.7 kill per sortie and a kill per time above 12 your fighter rank will be out of the top ten.
Kills per time is the most important in terms of fighter rank. This does matter how many hours hour you have online as long as you kill a ton of stuff.
Like I said time online is just an excuse for under achievement.
BTW that "scoring page that pyro references in his post" has been there for some time.
Its how the rank system always worked.
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should be by plane type - nothing as large as $100 a pop
maybe a free month sub
maybe quarterly instead of monthly
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Well I can already make a good guess at the 60 finalists, I'm not gonna be in there anyway so that sux but it'll be interesting to see who wins the overall prize.
And the score potatos will become even more psychotic when they are shot down.
Well I'll be getting my fun from hearing the whines on ch 1 during this time :D
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the winner should be banned from AH for one month in order to get their yearly supply of vitamin SUN !
that or some makeup so we don't have to witness another "king-of-pop" tragedy.
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I peaked 2 months early :(
Score chasing is lame, boring and requires you to spend far too much time gaming the game. I won't be actively 'going for it' for at least the first month, after that the $ may make me change my mind.
Before this happens I hope HTC revamps the scoring categories and revises the way categories are calculated. (No more stupid squid shooting, No more increasing hit% by shooting friendly structures, dead structures not boosting stats when hit, fix the GV objecy hit% score and a bunch of other stuff)
Gatso (#1 rank, tour 33)
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Please add a plane prize instead of a cash prize! :p
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Originally posted by MrLars
IMO, this isn't the direction HTC should be going in.
Prizes for Scenario or SE's OK but to monitarily award score whoring in the MA will be just another step closer to the arcade play that I got into this type of game to get away from.
Absolutely agreed.
dh
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Its weird.
Its simple, so they aren't sinking development time into it or anything.
I'm not in question as a competitor.
Thus it is really quite irrelevant to me.
Hope it does whatever HTC wants it to do for them.
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If it brings new players in good on HTC!
Stop thinking in terms of your own wallets.
Ahhh nothing is as tender as newbie meat :D
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I don't get it. Why all the hubub? We're talking about lunch money here. Let the guy market his product however he sees fit. If ya don't like it, cancel your subscription.. with all the squeakin that everyone does, you'd think they were being forced to play this game. Geez.
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Why couldn't they start this on Tour 34? Tour 35 I won't be on as much as I was able to sneak more hours from GF then I was allowed. Should be a fun incentive. You can deposit the cash into my account, if you need the routing numbers I will be much obliged to give them to you HTC.
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I like Mitsu's idea of giving the winner some input into game development. Maybe modelling their favorite plane. Or giving the winner some say in a new aspect of gameplay, however small. Heck, with the terrain editor you could skin the winner's favorite historical plane into new terrains, or skin the winner some custom nose art that everyone flies and sees on that terrain.
Something that benefits the whole community, not just the elite players and scorepotatos.
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The results of this contest are as in doubt as an Iraqi election....
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I don't get it. Why all the hubub?
um.. well.. maybe because this is called:
Aces High General DISCUSSION ???
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Originally posted by Vulcan
If it brings new players in good on HTC!
Stop thinking in terms of your own wallets.
Ahhh nothing is as tender as newbie meat :D
What he said
palef
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Originally posted by Steve
I don't get it. Why all the hubub? We're talking about lunch money here. Let the guy market his product however he sees fit. If ya don't like it, cancel your subscription.. with all the squeakin that everyone does, you'd think they were being forced to play this game. Geez.
What he said, also.
palef
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I think i would be pleased if it wasn't for the ease of which people can manipulate the scoring system to rank high.
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My thoughts:
Looking at the top 15 pilots for November, you can draw the following conclusions:
- This contest is for people who have no life. 500-700+ sorties, 100-150 hours or more per TD...
- Because you can only gain points but never lose them, if you fly enough you, too, can be in the top 15.
- The purpose of this contest is to reward those who do basically nothing but fly AH. The thing at the end is to see which one of this red-eyed, no-life crowd can fly better than the others in that group.
I'm in 2 minds about this. OT1H, this can be seen as HTC rewarding its most devoted fans. Fine. OTOH, it does nothing to prove who's the best overall pilot, which the name of the contest seems to imply is its purpose.
If it was up to me to design a contest to determine the best overall pilot, I would open the competition to include those people who actually have lives. So I'd look set it up to track people with at least 60 sorties, 20 each in fighters, buffs, and vehicles/boats. Then base the winners on combined total scores. As it stands now, the ranking system rewards persistance more than it rewards overcoming resistance.
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Exactly, I normally detune channel 1 but I can't wait to see people snapping left and right over a few bucks.
does my heart good.
Let the games begin!!!!
Originally posted by Animal
And the score potatos will become even more psychotic when they are shot down.
I cant wait for the constant breakdowns that will happen in channel 1!
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This is like offering a cash prize for the Darwin award.
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good idea. maybe we'll see "professional fighter pilot in AH" listed as a job.
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Originally posted by Urchin
I don't think killstealing really helps your rank that much.
Its comparitively easy to get a high fighter rank- you just have to be halfway decent.
Attack rank isn't to bad, bomber and GV rank are a little tougher.
Bomber and GV rank are really easy to get. Last campaign, I was able to get a really low bomber rank (24) with just 5 bomber flights. 3 of them hitting a town in the A-20 and the other two flights in a C-47 capturing a couple of towns. In GV's I was able to knock my rank down from over 1000 to less than 200 with only 4 GV runs, 3 of them in an Ostie taking out a town and the fuel/ammo bunkers of the nearby base and capturing a town with an M3. It seems for bomber and GV ranks, the best way to increase them is to capture towns. Kind of cheesy and another reason why rank is meaningless to me.
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by Mitsu
"What about Ki-45 Twin ZEKE?"
Yeah, let's bring the poor performing 'Nick' to AH so we P-38 pilots can have a Japanese plane that we can out turn, out run and out dive :D
Ack-Ack
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They will be coming out of the wallpaper!
Score hogs at their finest! Should be fun to watch!
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My first thought on this was,
Why?
What does HTC and AH get out of this deal?
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Play Aces High!
Cash prizes awarded to top pilots!
So then HTC spends an average of $925 + admin costs per month to implement this contest. If 60+ more dweebs play AH per month, they break even...
And if MORE than 60+ sign up....
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Ah, I get it now, it's a PROFIT DEAL!
They might actually MAKE money on this!
How dare they! :)
(Unless they spend some of that money to hire more folks so that they can model the P-39 and I-16, etc., of course)
eskimo
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This promotes kill stealing, vulching, strato-buffs, and all the other dweeb stuff you don't wana see....don't like this. The top 15 piolts in the MA aren't the top 15 piolts in the game. MA rank translates to nothing.
Wana see who is good? Rework the score system for the DA. Base who is good, and who isn't good on who wins the most 1 vs. 1s, in fair planes (p51 vs g-10, 109E vs spit 1, ect....) not the typical La7 vs p40...or N1K vs. 109E MA stuff.....
Well...let the dweebfest begin!
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Let’s make everyone happy and go back to $2 per hour.
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I don't think the cash reward is the thing to go. As people duely mention, the top 15 scorers aren't necessary the top 15 pilots, nor pilots which would deserve such respect or rewards. While a lot of them are good people both in skill and attitude, whom I would wish to learn flying from, others are bitc*y whiners who can never stand a death from "unknown" pilots, known to dump trash at ch1, would harass other people, and will sell his soul for points and scores if necessary.
Cash reward will just bring cynicism and disapproval from the real pilots who don't do the chest-thumping bit, or low in general scores due to limited flying time. The sneers and contempt against the "score-potatos high" aspect of AH will worsen AH MA environment which is already trashy enough.
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Instead, give them some other type of reward. A non-profitable, honorary thing should be fine enough. Maybe something like a special squadron marking (in concpet something like the sort VVS Elite Guards received) approved only by HTC, or a special icon visile to friendlies.. something like maybe a star next to their names, making them recognizable as pilots with great skill who is officialy noted by HTC as winners of the shoot-out contests... or maybe a special(!) rudder colors/markings such as early LW pilots dabbled in.. or maybe a special text like "System: PilotX, an HTC Elite, has landed with X kills"..
This is reward enough to satisfy personal egos, and yet not big enough to cause scorn and open contempt from those who do not approve.
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I truely beleive this will be bad for the community. Not only do I have score hogs, but now I have motivated score hogs, and to top it off....I just know theres going to be a few trying to game the game in a whole new way. I just hope HT has the time and energy to be the ongoing babysitter this may require.
Only positive I can think of, is maybe it will encourage people to not spawn form capped fields....I can only hope.
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A ploy(sp) to make more money? Yes
Promoting cheating and overall poor sportsmanship (score potato, kill stealing, etc) Yes
Take the money you'd give to the score potatos and spend it on bonuses for the HT crew to make the game better (ie new planes and maps). I'd much rather see a HT employee get the cash than a snot nosed kid living off of mom and dad exploiting everything he can to get some free beer money. :)
:rolleyes:
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Whats stopping a couple of pilots vulching each other several 1000 times to split the prize fund?!
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Originally posted by T0J0
Whats stopping a couple of pilots vulching each other several 1000 times to split the prize fund?!
The big magic red button HT has that bans you from the game for a month :D
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holy cow T0J0 meet me in the MA!!!
I'll share it with you I swear!
Originally posted by T0J0
Whats stopping a couple of pilots vulching each other several 1000 times to split the prize fund?!
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Mox wrote:
A ploy(sp) to make more money? Yes
Promoting cheating and overall poor sportsmanship (score potato, kill stealing, etc) Yes
Take the money you'd give to the score potatos and spend it on bonuses for the HT crew to make the game better (ie new planes and maps). I'd much rather see a HT employee get the cash than a snot nosed kid living off of mom and dad exploiting everything he can to get some free beer money.
I'd have to agree with this...
If HTC has money to burn do like Mox says. I hate to see part of my money go to vulching, gamey, kill stealing, point mongers who will/do ruin the game for others and make the MA more arcadish. If not just bump the price down to $10 a month... wouldn't hurt my feelings any.
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Originally posted by ALF
Only positive I can think of, is maybe it will encourage people to not spawn form capped fields....I can only hope.
Damn ... no more kill streaks for me then I guess :D
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Unfortunately I think that most of the people that win won't be the top pilots. They will be people with two accounts on two computers and people who get their squadmates to help them. But maybe I'm just cynical
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This is supposed to be a community. Cash rewards ? I think it would not be long before folks not winning any would migrate elsewhere. Use the money to advance the game for everyone and not the few. If they need rewards, make them Generals or Admirals.
And why isn't there a reward for folks who run resupply runs or tankers or bombers ?
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you all are bunch of clowns.......
Everyone who ranks higher then you cheated, gamed or vulched their way to a better rank....... What bs.......
Last tours top 15
AGJV44
GPreddy
Fester
Booky
Lazer
BlauK
sakchan
AKOwl
bradys5
may1
4ACES
Snefens
Fariz
Mitsu
ZAMZI
How many of you that are moaning in this thread thinks they could beat these guys 1 v 1.
I bet they are Hackers as well........:rolleyes:
Wheres all the whiners and gamers and cheaters or score potato killstealers?
You all are full of it...........
I picked a few random folks who are upset over this from this forum and from checking some of the scores it seems they fly la7s p51ds and nikis etc........ Calling others cheaters or blame them for making the game "arcadish" ...... Get a grip.....
If wanna participate go for it, if you dont well then dont but accusing folks of "cheating" because you cant messure up is rediculous.
I bet the cop out "I could do good to if I tried but I choose not to, I am above 'score'......" will be next.......
As me for I dont care either way..... If someone can win money having fun doin what they do great more power to umm.
I will have more fun gettin a few guys to get together to hunt the guys on the bubble.
If you riding number 12 13 14 or 15 its gonna be fun trying to set up back a few rank points.......
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Good post Wotan. I like to see a thread get ugly. :)
Drex
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I say HTC 'tags' whoever is currently ranked 1-15 (like perkies are tagged). That would make the contest fun for the rest of us :D
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The original question:
Anyway, Top 15 pilots get a $100 cash. So what will this do? Score padding? Less suicide Jabos? More chutes to kill?
Your thoughts?
Apparently Wotan, you think anyone with "thoughts" or an "opinion" or a "point of view" of their own that's not exactly the same as yours is a clown. You must live in a very funny world of your own...
Yes I do think ranking is mostly "gaming the game". That's is of course my opinion, clownish as it may be. I personally don't care what you think, about anything. I do respect your right to voice your opinion on this BB however but don't expect the same from you.
Don't know if I could beat any of them 1 vs 1 but would be happy to try. It doesn't matter either way. I'm supposing you are talking about in fighters? Which is only a percentage of what makes them "top 15". Or will this be 1 vs 1 in bombing? jabo? GVs? boats?
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I don't know how will MA evolve as a result of this measure, so my first take will be to see how it looks like.
One thing for certain, I will be more demanding as my on-line experience is concerned, and I will definitely look at scores. My money will not pay AH to guys I have zero respect for.
Namely Fester-like pilots as I do not want my money favouring guys who absolutely refuse to fight if they haven't got tons of advantage over victims, wether it is in terms of alt, numbers, or both. Neither will my money favour bishop-like playing, lemming-vulching bases with no skill to take it after some painful hours, even with overwhelming odds.
So, basically, this single measure makes me more sensitive about the quality of my AH experience, and I will be reacting accordingly as the situation evolves.
In principle, I dislike it, but let's wait and see.
Cheers,
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The answer to the question is easy.
It will have virtually no effect, seeing as the prize money is only ever going to be available to something like the top 50 pilots out of the thousands who play.
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i am not sure if i like what i see on the news... but then again, what do i know... as Immoniate said, it probably doesn't have much effect...
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BNM your not offering an opinion. You accusinga whole group of folks of being cheaters and score potatos who make you game "arcadish".
To me you are offering personal attacks. When I pop up your kill stats from last tour ( not rank just the planes you flew and got kills in) we see la7 p51d and niki.
I dont care how you fly but when you call folks dweebs or cheaters or "arcardish" you open the door.
I hate to see part of my money go to vulching, gamey, kill stealing, point mongers who will/do ruin the game for others and make the MA more arcadish.
Sound Familiar............?
If you fly for rank or whatever its your choice but the asumption that those who "rank higher" then you
"cheat" and that a prize system that is available for anyone to win will be basically "stolen" is just BS.
Have an opinion and voice it all you want but dont cast stones.
Drex re read the thread, it was but ugly way before my last post. Just because you can beat umm all is different then these other guys.
It must be the "you are all clowns" that got ya but it seems you overlooked the claims of "killstealers, score potato duel account vulchers who really are no good except that they game the game and ruin the main for them". Typical selective reading........
Pepe no one is taking money from your pocket and handing it to the winner. You like all of us pay 14.99 a month for unlimited game time. After that it aint your money.
Who ever wins good for them but it wont charge what I do much at all except as I stated above. I too believe theres only about 50 folks who have a chance at winning the big money. But so what good for them.
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Originally posted by muckmaw
It will generate an elite..........
This elite will guard its secrets carefully, jealous of others who would steal its prize.......... it will not make for better community.
Focus will be drawn to the scoring system...... its inequalities will be argued........ its emphasis debated.........it will be accused of favouring some over others.
Should it be removed the elite will declare that the reason is personal, that HTC did it to spite them because they always win....
It will not attract new revenue to HTC, those who will gain are the "experten" we already have.
If HTC were to launch a new Mission theatre then I would have thought that such a "sales promotion" would have been better directed there.
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Originally posted by Wotan
Pepe no one is taking money from your pocket and handing it to the winner. You like all of us pay 14.99 a month for unlimited game time. After that it aint your money.
As you say, after I pay it's not my money anymore. But before this happens, I can positively decide wether I spend it or not, and my MA enjoyment will judge what's the case.
When I've paid It's not my money, but this not-my-money-anymore will be used to reward some people based on a scoring system who encourage, above all, easy killings. If it's used to reward the type of behaviour I depise more, and this reward ends in more of this behaviour in MA, then I will chose not to give my money to the one that is using it to promote such. Wether Htc's intention is to deliberately promote this behaviour or dweebs, kill stealers or "wise-no-risk-takers" are a side consequence, if this situation comes up, the result on my end will be the same: no joy. If I have no joy playing AH, then I'll pay no money. It will be my money. ;)
Cheers,
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So the top 15 pilots in the game get a steady income? And here I am working 7 days a week. I knew I should have quit my job and played AH more ;)
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I think its a complete stretch to conclude that the main can get any more gamey. I think the assumptions are completely wrong that the only way to have a higher rank is through "kill stealing, duel account vulching and general cheating".
Almost every kill stealer I have ran into in the main hasnt been a higher ranked player. Almost every "gamer" type I run into isnt a "ranked" player. At those fields where 25 guys are vulching they are not all ranked players.
As matter of fact almost everything that is accused of those on the higher end of the rank scale I see 100 times worse on the lower end.
Some people fly for rank and to live or to just mix it up and have some fights. It makes no difference to me if HT desides to offer a prize to one group. Especially since it excludes no one.
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Wotan,
I am not concluding anything. I'm just stating that if the situation in MA evolves in a certain way it would kill my fun. And, while I think the natural path will go this way, I have a lot of fun in here, I do appreciate the community, and Htc. has proved many times it cares about the quality of this product, so I'm willing to give the game the benefit of the doubt. :)
Cheers,
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Sorry Pepe that was more a general reply then just toward you......
S!
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At those fields where 25 guys are vulching they are not all ranked players.
But you can bet the chances of finding one at a vulched field is enormously high ;)
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Anyhow, things got a bit exaggerated. Of course, people won't suddenly make two accounts for the sole purpose of making some money, I don't think anyone is actually THAT lame..
but Wotan, we do have to consider that when actual money becomes at stake, money which we all have paid to HTC, a lot of things where people would just laugh and look over will suddenly become a lot more serious and hectic.
There's just no denying that with actual profits in form of cash is ay stake some people will start doing some things that (while not as goofy or lame as some people exaggeratively suggest) will in the long run hurt the community and hurt the game. Levels of hostility and competition are already high in the MA where nobody gets cash rewards.
Reward them with honor, with titles, with medals, with recognition, with whatever that will satisfy their egos, but leave the money out of this. A lot of people won't approve of seeing the money they worked hard to earn, and dearly paid to HTC being used to reward someone they don't know, or someone they don't like.
I wouldn't mind if this deal was a one-time only special event. But this? No, there's no way this can contribute to AH and its community.
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Animal:
And the score potatos will become even more psychotic when they are shot down.
I cant wait for the constant breakdowns that will happen in channel 1!
My thoughts as well, man it'll be fun hunting the score potatos, :D
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This is the yellow brick raod to the arcade game. Those that spend damn near 24/7 in the game have the best chance at some bucks.
Were off to see the lizzard the wonderful lizzard of odd!
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
doesn't affect me either way.
I couldn't care less about score.
Hehehe, my best finish was in the 200's. Far cry from the top 15. IMO, just a gimmick for the people who have no lives and fly 15000 sorties a month....
No offense to those who have no lives :D. I wish I could have no life so I could fly that much . Off to feed the horses and shovel poop. :p
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Personally I ain't gonna worry about it, and I am not even gonna pretend that I have a snowball's chance in hell of cracking the top 100 much less the top 15. This will only effect about 30-40 players as far as who actually has a shot at it. The top 15 players got where they are and stayed where they have been doing what they will continute to do, fly well, work the system a little (which is common sense) and pick their fights wisely. If HTC is willing to pony up 100 bones to the top players more power to them, can you think of anyother online games that give you so many was for them to give you money back? There is the affiliate program that can earn you way more money than the "top gun" award, or spend a few nights in the training arena helping out new players to get a cash credit. If you need 100 bucks that bad it is time to re-think paying 15 bucks a month to play a game.
What truly does humor me is the way all the people are attacking each other and HTC in the forums, it's like a bunch of women at the mall talking about other women and the clothes they are wearing.......damned amusing.
The "score potatos" will always be here, cash money or not. Before this contest usually what drove them was bragging rights and ego, can't see where 100 bones will change that.
Will we see less crash and burn Jabo's, most likely not, those guys were never in the running anyway.
Will we see more kill stealing, most likely no more than usual, the really good players don't get "stuck in" huge furballs, that is what makes them good players.
Will we see more people trying to boom and zoom and run away, maybe for a little while till they realize that they are not in the top 15 already for a reason, and they will go back to playing like normal.
Conn
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Originally posted by Modas
Hehehe, my best finish was in the 200's. Far cry from the top 15. IMO, just a gimmick for the people who have no lives and fly 15000 sorties a month....
No offense to those who have no lives :D. I wish I could have no life so I could fly that much . Off to feed the horses and shovel poop. :p
You don't have to fly that many sorties or for XX number of hours in order to get a high rank. The way the ranking system is set up, it's very easy to manipulate.
Take an A-20 to a nearby enemy town and destroy it and have the score it as a bomber. Now get a goon and capture that town. Do the same thing a couple of times and you're bomber rank will be below 100. The same things goes for GV ranks. Take an Ostie and flatten a nearby enemy town and then take an M3 to it for the capture, repeat the process on another town and your GV score will be below 100. You can then have a mediocre ranking in both attack and fighters and your over all rank will be high.
I don't think giving out money is the end of the world or will change the dynamics of the MA at all, it's just going to make those that fly like dweebs still fly like dweebs and those of us that scoff at them will still scoff at them.
Ack-Ack
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I like Mitsu's idea about the winner chooseing his or hers favorite plane. That way we can all lobby err whine to the leader for our own plane choice instead of HTC .
See you guys at #1:D
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Originally posted by Ozark
Let’s make everyone happy and go back to $2 per hour.
Agreed:)
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This contest will only be beneficial to a few - but those few, and we know who they are, will be interesting to watch :D Now if the contest was to include the top 300 or so, I may have a chance. Although my score does not reflect anything near that chance at the moment.
Have fun aces :)
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Originally posted by Animal
And the score potatos will become even more psychotic when they are shot down.
I cant wait for the constant breakdowns that will happen in channel 1!
Time to go Spitfire hunting! The season is open, and there's no limit!
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Originally posted by Tilt
If HTC were to launch a new Mission theatre then I would have thought that such a "sales promotion" would have been better directed there.
Rgr that, Tilt. Perhaps this idea was put forth by the "contracted marketing group" of which Pyro spoke. Shouldn't hire a marketing group that doesn't play/understand your product imho.....
dh
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Originally posted by FTPiper
I say HTC 'tags' whoever is currently ranked 1-15 (like perkies are tagged). That would make the contest fun for the rest of us :D
And turn off killshooter for anyone in the top 15. That way, if you're unlucky enough to be on the same side as someone in the top 15, you don't get locked out of the fun. :D
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Pepe said:
One thing for certain ... (m)y money will ... pay AH to guys I have zero respect for. Namely Fester-like pilots
Damn straight, Pepe.
So I change my vote. The contest, being based on rank, favors the score potatos, the no-lifes, the Festers. Hell, against that line-up, scumbags like me, who had already convinced my squaddies to line up for vulching by our most lifeless redeye and putting the proceeds in the squad debauchery fund, don't stand a chance.
I don't want my AH money going to anything other than HTC employees and AH development (unless it's my squad's debauchery fund :D). Especially not people I have zero respect for.
So, put me down as thinking "this sucks" as long as it's based on the rank system.
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Originally posted by Modas
Hehehe, my best finish was in the 200's. Far cry from the top 15. IMO, just a gimmick for the people who have no lives and fly 15000 sorties a month....
No offense to those who have no lives :D. I wish I could have no life so I could fly that much . Off to feed the horses and shovel poop. :p
I does not always take a lot of time online to rank well. I ranked 16th overall one tour with only 14 hours in the MA.
eskimo
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The top 15 should win a flashing ID! :)
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And get gangbanged the next month :D