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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: kappa on December 02, 2002, 03:26:39 PM
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Please only respond if you believe that the pizza map sucks! Have I mentioned lately that it sucks? The color is terrible. The map sucks. The altitudes are kinda bad. The map sucks. The map is too big. The map sucks. The map sucks, but to make it worse, HELL is almost over and Skuzzy resets the map. Darn skuzzy, I suppose you couldnt have just changed it? HTC, PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ update the freaking map if your going to use it! PLZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Get off your arse and make a new one and submit it to HTC then. ;)
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Damn pizza
THE ALT! OMG!!!!!
the color .. bad but the ALT!!!!! damn it suxs.... ..you can't find a place on this planet that looks like the dreamland pizza
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Geeeeeeeeeeeeee Ripsnort! How freaking original! Would you like me to come and handle customer service too at HTC? You could be right.... Maybe they DO need the help.
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I have my own solution for Pizza Hell, I just log off.
No more squeaking about the color, alts or lack of quality fights, I just log off and am done with it.
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Kappa rushes again!
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Did you see that???
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=71274
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Pizza Map = More quality time in the CT :)
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There are so many bases it hard to find other sqd members. and the color sucks
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sucks
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Pizza map is good for those folks who like to do Gv and bombing runs. I agree the color makes it harder to see planes and such. I look at it as an additonal challenge instead of whining about it. I like the altitudes in it. Kappa, I'd love to see osme of the maps you've submitted. Maybe we could get them into the rotation. How many have you turned in?
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Steve,
even though you suck worse than the pizza map. thanks for your contribution. If I were payed to make maps, I would make a better one. Since I pay to play, I will voice my opinion
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Since I pay to play as well, I will voice mine. Grow up Kappa.
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LoL!!!! I'm so happy to see that I am your opinion! Your not a stalker are you!? thanks loser! I mean, is this a kappa grow up thread? no. This is a pizza map sucks thread that you, Steve, needed to tell me to grow up on. Real smart guy! And, thanks, I'm working on it........
kappa
ps... keep running steve.. it suits your persona.
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I voiced my opinion in a previous post in this thread. Kappa, you aren't making any sense at all. Have you taken your meds? In addition to your nonsensical ramblings, you seem to have a lot of anger. Should you be gettting help for that, before you hurt someone...even yourself?
Get a grip.
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lol well, what was your opinion mr sensical rambler. And why the need to retort to my reply?
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I LOVE the Pizza Map!! It forces me to fly in the DA and brush up on my ACM.
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pizza sux magget infested gorilla ballz dipped in hot cheese.
i cant wait for the stoooooookah can yu?
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My opinion is stated up the thread. I only replied to you because you threw in needless insults. I agree that the pizza map could use a tweak or two, but not that it is a completely "sucky" map. I guess that fact that someone disagrees with you is unpalatable for you. Frankly, I'm somewhat bewildered that you are upset that someone posted a dissenting comment. Really, voicing ones opinion is what this BB is all about. Did you really think everyone would agree with you?
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I dislike many things about it and many times log off after logging in and seeing it up, but I'm not in a position to make my own terrain for submission.
It did fire my interest in looking at other sims, however.
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kappa's map sucks!
eskimo
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That Stooooooooka better have a fargin dive siren... OR ILL QUIT!!!! ;)
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Kappa...how many thread you gotta start about this? We realized you didn't like the map about 19 posts ago. Pizza map is ok....in the morning you can't find fights but at nights it's usually great fun. Alts are a small problem..if made a lower it would be perfect.
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I'm really starting to agree.
The bases on akdesert ARE father away then on most of the other maps. The "average" distance between two bases on akdesert is about as long as the few long gaps between fields on some of the smaller maps. It's only a difference of 5-10 miles at the most, but is more than enough to not be worth flying except as part of a mission.
We need a 512 terrain that leaves a lot of spare room, not one that tries to spread out to cover every available inch.
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Pizza map blows goats, get rid of it.
HT you owe box market some cash, the only reason I buy boxed games off the shelf is due to you leaving the horrid pizza map in rotation.
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The pizza map is there just to make you like the same old tired maps just that much better.
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Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegan
Account locked? How ya manage that?
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The card expired, new year, I "Think" its resolved.
But the problem now is I cleared my password accidently in the game and can't seem to get an e-mail with the password so again, im locked out!
(I'm starting to think that after 20 years in computers you actually start to revert back into a noob)
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Pizza is sweet, FOR ME TO POOP ON! :D
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Yes it's horrible, especially when there's 3 times as many bases as players.
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I log on when the pizza map is in rotatation but I know it is the pizza (or nightime) even before I see it because of the low numbers.... I give it a try and look for a good fight but even if I find one I know that it will be a long time till I find another when that one is done so... I log on and as soon as I can't find a decent fight I log off... saves on frustration.
carve the bottom third of the monster off and make it an earlyu war plane only area.
lazs
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Pizza map has been a huge contributer to my increase in rank in WWIIO.
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It's not fun for folks ... when has any map been complained about as much as this?
Remember when HTC put out sfter with that 10k field A1 ... when they rerealeased the map months later ... a1 was set to a normal alt ; I thought they learned the uber alt lesson there.....
there were very few high alt bases in the war (from my info) and i think they make for bad gameplay anyway .... it's the alt and color ...
the only fun fights i have in pizza are over the water. and since most people who feel like me fight at water bases- they are quickly captured leaving you with a bunch of crappy 7-11k fields ...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
another pizza whine brought to you by Pizza the Hut (from spaceballs) Don't lock me in the limo!...mmm that arm looks tasty
BTW Kappa is a normaly level headed ... he only goes crazy when he can't get his AH fix because of pizza :p
So I ask HTC, Has any map ever been complained about this much? Maybe we have a point.
we'll be back next week same whine channel same whine time.
na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na pizza! Pizza! PIZZA! :D
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There are some good sides in it. (not as cramped as other maps, leaves you a choice in what you can do)
But
A - Colours needs to change.
B - Altitude of fields need to go down.
I mean... we already had a 10K field on the after-beta map... we all whined and it was taken out... why put up 10-12 k high fields again ?
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Get rid of it pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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if the stoooooookah dosent have a dive whine im sure mitsu will make one he is what htc needs a sound engineer!!!
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Sry AK's i really appreciate the work on the pizza map but i cant see it anymore.
Most times i see it i just log off.
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I dislike the Pizza map ... It reminds me of the story my Dad used to tell of his childhood where he swore he walked ... " 20 miles barefoot in the snow to go to school , and it was uphill ...both ways ."
I've always assumed this was a simulator program of sorts ... but please name for me the Terrain being simulated ? Find a place on this planet , of some 274, 000 square miles ... with ground level altitudes from sea level to 15k , huge gorge canyons ( with no simulated up and down drafts inherent with cliffsides ).. without so much as a patch of snow at the top , a single creek/river , or a single tree , with the need for 220 + bases to defend this wasteland . For all the sense this map makes as a theatre of war , you could've saved a lot of time by making the ground/sky all black ... and renamed the planes to Jedi-7's and Darthfires .
You COULD have made it slightly more believable if you had put in OIL facilities ; derricks , refineries , pumps , ports , tankers... so we could at least rationalize why we are fighting here . ( plus having some fun strat targets to boot .. gimme incendiary ord ! )
And yeah , i bought a 64m DDR dual cpu video card so i could fly in CGA color for a week .
There is no winning the Pizza map .. only surviving it .
/sarcasm off
Okies .. i STILL fly the map , but it IS my least favorite .
Be well ,
Reverend Max
Chaplain - 13th SAS
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Kappa, quit expressing your opinion!! just who the hell do you think you are?!!!!
BTW I like the pizza map :)
shamus
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you guys think it sucks becuase the Bishops almost always win.:
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Originally posted by kappa
Please only respond if you believe that the pizza map sucks!
Absolutely. My solution? Just remove it and lets rotate with only the old ones.
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Originally posted by kappa
Please only respond if you believe that the pizza map sucks! Have I mentioned lately that it sucks? The color is terrible. The map sucks. The altitudes are kinda bad. The map sucks. The map is too big. The map sucks. The map sucks, but to make it worse, HELL is almost over and Skuzzy resets the map. Darn skuzzy, I suppose you couldnt have just changed it? HTC, PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ update the freaking map if your going to use it! PLZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although I liked it at first, I must give a strong suckiness vote on the pizza map. Most of the cities are located beyond sight of the bases, and having so many bases makes it almost impossible to defend. Being large spreads out the action a bit more, but the milk running and base capture by a couple GVs is getting rediculous.
The color gets to be a bit hard on the eyes, and some have complained that it gives them headaches. The canyons are impressive, but much too pervasive. The layout, although fair for all sides, is unreal to the point of being silly (pizza/peace symbol). The idea of having so many players in a single arena seems to be straining the server. Warps and slow downs are getting more severe. (Smaller with more arenas may be better.)
Having a desert terrain with some canyons is fine if there was more variety, like some mountains with snow, rivers, lakes, areas of vegetation, and a less bright color, or greater variety of shades. I don't think a perfect area balance for all sides is so important since they are assigned randomly.
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Well when I log on and see the map I know Lazs is workin on his car, Apache is playing WWIIOnline and count on Rickt being there. If there is a fight, Rickt can find it :)
Always end up flying a couple but...
it blows goats.......
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Pizza is the only map that caters to the non-furballing crowd--there's something for everybody here..as opposed to Mindanao..log on..see Bish have the west-aGAIN....about 5 sectors with 467 planes in em...no place to drive GV's..NO room to grab in heavy bomber..DAMNED few bases to attack/grab from CV....Yall have become creatures of habit...do somethin different fer once!
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Sorry but i love the pizza map
other maps are to small.
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hiya all:
Well not been one to ever say much, :rolleyes: I have to go with getting rid of the pizza map. well thats my 2 cents worth on that subject.
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Well since i dont fly the MA anymore, can someone tell me which map is refered to as the piza map so i can get an idea of what in the MA blows these days.
P.S sorry for the ignorance.:confused:
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I like the pizza map....
If wasn't for it I wouldn't have any nights to play "World War 2 Online".
CAV
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Battle Field 1942 for me when Pizza map comes outta the oven.
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Nobody gives a damn what you think BUG! :D You are a little sissy who likes ICE CREAM!
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Originally posted by MrLars
I have my own solution for Pizza Hell, I just log off.
No more squeaking about the color, alts or lack of quality fights, I just log off and am done with it.
Yep... me too.
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It has its good points.
The real suckage comes from cherry pickers on the OTHER maps, who are no more than 5 minutes away. Yes, I KNOW an LA7 can outmanoeuvre my P47D30 with 2000# bombs on it. :mad:
Pizza is the only map that caters to the non-furballing crowd--there's something for everybody here..as opposed to Mindanao..log on..see Bish have the west-aGAIN....about 5 sectors with 467 planes in em...no place to drive GV's..NO room to grab in heavy bomber..DAMNED few bases to attack/grab from CV....Yall have become creatures of habit...do somethin different fer once!
I agree with that. Not that the Pizza map is a furball free zone. I landed a 7 kill sortie just yesterday, and if I can do it, so can you.
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Yo beet1e,
In their landmark study, John R. Lott, Jr. and David B. Mustard found, "allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons deters violent crimes and it appears to produce no increase in accidental deaths. If those states which did not have Right to Carry concealed gun provisions had adopted them in 1992, approximately 1,570 murders; 4,177 rapes; and over 60,000 aggravated assaults would have been avoided yearly....[T]he estimated annual gain from allowing concealed handguns is at least $6.214 billion....[W]hen state concealed handgun laws went into effect in a county, murders fell by 8.5 percent, and rapes and aggravated assaults fell by 5 and 7 percent." ("Crime, Deterrence, and Right To Carry Concealed Handguns," 1996.)
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"Concerns that permit holders would lose their tempers in traffic accidents have been unfounded. Worries about risks to police officers have also proved unfounded....National surveys of police show they support concealed handgun laws by a 3-1 margin....There is also not a single academic study that claims Right to Carry laws have increased state crime rates. The debate among academics has been over how large the benefits have been." ("Should Michigan keep new concealed weapon law? Don't believe gun foe scare tactics," Detroit News, 1/14/01.) "Whenever a state legislature first considers a concealed-carry bill, opponents typically warn of horrible consequences....But within a year of passage, the issue usually drops off the news media's radar screen, while gun-control advocates in the legislature conclude that the law wasn't so bad after all." (David Kopel, "The Untold Triumph of Concealed-Carry Permits," Policy Review, July-Aug. 1996, p. 9.)
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Violent crime has decreased every year since 1991, while 17 states adopted and 13 states improved RTC laws. RTC states have lower violent crime rates, on average: 22% lower total violent crime, 28% lower murder, 38% lower robbery, and 17% lower aggravated assault. The five states with the lowest violent crime rates are RTC states. (FBI)
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Extra! Extra! Read all about it... (http://www.nraila.org/factsheets.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=18)
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"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."
- Second Amendment
to the U.S. Constitution
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Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.
Texas Constitution Article I, Section 23
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So exactly what business is it of yours beet1e, if I want to carry/own a gun or not? You shouldn't talk bad about the rights a free country's citizens have just because you and your countrymen are oppressed. You'll get more respect from Americans, at least this one, by removing that jibberish in your sig.
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Pizza map not so bad. It needs some new colors, A few daisy fields, waterfalls and maybee a starbucks
:rolleyes:
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Well if we're going to have a Starbucks, we should also have a Barnes & Noble bookstore opposite.
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an humble request : just change the textures it kill my colorblind eyes :(
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beetle... while it is possible to find a good fight in the pizza map... it is not assured. You might go 20 minutes at a time and chaseing what used to be a fight or what you think might be a fight.. the map is late war centered also..
as tp the rest of your post...
lazs
In their landmark study, John R. Lott, Jr. and David B. Mustard found, "allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons deters violent crimes and it appears to produce no increase in accidental deaths. If those states which did not have Right to Carry concealed gun provisions had adopted them in 1992, approximately 1,570 murders; 4,177 rapes; and over 60,000 aggravated assaults would have been avoided yearly....[T]he estimated annual gain from allowing concealed handguns is at least $6.214 billion....[W]hen state concealed handgun laws went into effect in a county, murders fell by 8.5 percent, and rapes and aggravated assaults fell by 5 and 7 percent." ("Crime, Deterrence, and Right To Carry Concealed Handguns," 1996.)
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"Concerns that permit holders would lose their tempers in traffic accidents have been unfounded. Worries about risks to police officers have also proved unfounded....National surveys of police show they support concealed handgun laws by a 3-1 margin....There is also not a single academic study that claims Right to Carry laws have increased state crime rates. The debate among academics has been over how large the benefits have been." ("Should Michigan keep new concealed weapon law? Don't believe gun foe scare tactics," Detroit News, 1/14/01.) "Whenever a state legislature first considers a concealed-carry bill, opponents typically warn of horrible consequences....But within a year of passage, the issue usually drops off the news media's radar screen, while gun-control advocates in the legislature conclude that the law wasn't so bad after all." (David Kopel, "The Untold Triumph of Concealed-Carry Permits," Policy Review, July-Aug. 1996, p. 9.)
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Violent crime has decreased every year since 1991, while 17 states adopted and 13 states improved RTC laws. RTC states have lower violent crime rates, on average: 22% lower total violent crime, 28% lower murder, 38% lower robbery, and 17% lower aggravated assault. The five states with the lowest violent crime rates are RTC states. (FBI)
contrast that with england and australia where 50% of the burgalries are "hot... the people are home... england and australia lead the world in crime victims... being victimized is not freedom.
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punt
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Originally posted by kappa
Please only respond if you believe that the pizza map sucks! Have I mentioned lately that it sucks? The color is terrible. The map sucks. The altitudes are kinda bad. The map sucks. The map is too big. The map sucks. The map sucks, but to make it worse, HELL is almost over and Skuzzy resets the map. Darn skuzzy, I suppose you couldnt have just changed it? HTC, PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ update the freaking map if your going to use it! PLZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I've never been one to follow protocol so here goes.
The MAP is fine. Its YOU all that suck LMAO
The Map is fine Im running and old P500 so if anyone should be having problems it should be me. But All these problems I keep hearing about I just dont see or have. I see planes just fine. I see GVs fine. My frame rate is fine and actually better there then in that mountainous map that usually precedes it.
Oh and a hint for the folks that claim they cant tell whats going on cause the maps too cluttered.. Try turning off all the little boxes at the top of the clipboard and you can see exactly whats going on and where. If you dont want to play solo warrior well. Go to where the fights are. Seems to me that map has something for everyone. From the massive furballs to smaller more personal conflicts.
Not everyone is going to like all the maps. There are a couple of the other ones I dont particularly like. But I live with them knowing they are only going to be there for a few days at the most before we move onto another one.
I suggest those that whine about the pizza map grow up just a little bit and try doing the same
Drediock
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Originally posted by kappa
Please only respond if you believe that the pizza map sucks!
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I am responding since I do believe the "pizza map" does
indeed suck. I truely find it to be the least desirable of
all the maps I've ever flown on...including 8+ years of
AW maps...
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Map is a nice piece of work .
Hats off to the Ak guys.
But it really needs to be made much smaller.
Just an opinion.:p
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Sorry, I like the pizza map. Plenty of room to spread out and find exactly the kind of fight you want.
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Now I'm beginning to understand why I find the pizza map so pleasant. :p
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Originally posted by MrLars
I have my own solution for Pizza Hell, I just log off.
No more squeaking about the color, alts or lack of quality fights, I just log off and am done with it.
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Yep... me too.
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pizza map is great...as long as your just holding canyon races
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Originally posted by beet1e
[/BAmerica’s constitutional right to bear arms is an anachronism dating back to the 18th century. In modern times, it is an unmitigated disaster which has given rise to many millions of privately owned guns and an alarming homicide rate, with a tally of more than 300,000 firearms related homicides in the past 25 years. While no law can be 100% effective, Britain has no “gun culture”, and much stricter firearms controls which have contained the annual tally of gun related homicides to a double digit value - fewer than one fiftieth of the American gun-related homicide rate per 100,000 population]
Glad we live in the land of the free instead of a lesser country.
For instance England ;->
Go have yourself some tea and dont worry about us.
Maybe we wont kick yalls arses. (again)
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Amen BNM! S!
Aint it a shame how all those guns just run off by themselves and shoot people.
BTW, Long live pizza!!!
Tactical Officer
99TH ASTAG Swift to Avenge
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Yep, worst map that I've seen in any comparable sim. Frankly awful.
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I really don't like the pizza map.
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Does anyone have a picture of the revised pizza map? I personally like most aspects of the pizza, but there are some like the colot and lts that I don't like.
I like the canyons and GV battles, the zones, stuff like that.
Anyway someone said the revised one has a different color and alts, so lets see it:eek:
Booky
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like it:)
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Pizza Map is TERRIBLE, please ... LOSE IT! Nothing against the person who made it, and no I am not saying I can or would want to "do it better". Also no need for AK's to take this personal .. it's just the pizza map is HORRIBLE. Hell I have never complained about any map before! Only thing that is worse than the Pizza Map .. is the Pizza Map AT NIGHT!
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i go to CT when pizza is being served.
1) too high overall
2) horrid colors... how abt some variety..
3) canyons waaaaaaayyyy over done, especially all the "trails"
4) too many boulders. why stick 'em on the *side* of vertical canyon walls?
5) too confining for naval ops.
6) VH rings around the edges prolong misery of team being reset.
7) reset conditions... would be nice if down to say 3 airfields and 3 VH's - dunno if this is modifiable.
A. Size is ok when it's primetime.
B. # of bases is ok
C. strat targets ok (gotta have something for milkers to play with)
D. main pizza with bases/vh's and spawn points makes for interesting strategy.
E. something for everyone.
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i like the pizza map even though pizza is fattening :)