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Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 03, 2002, 04:49:30 PM
Dudes,

Please take note of my last Pizza map thread. Specifically notice the fact of 42 replies in 24hrs. I have been told that the AKs submitted HTC an updated version of the pizza map that has different terrain skins and limited base altitudes. I only ask where is this map? These two alterations alone should squander 90% of the maps complaints. Waiting for HTC’s reply……  

kappa
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: brady on December 03, 2002, 05:01:57 PM
Good grief only 42 people out of 2500 or so who play in the MA?

 What like o.o168% dont care for the Pizza map? Sweat Jeasious somthing most be donr before they storm HTC office!, numbers can work both ways comrad:)
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 03, 2002, 05:34:02 PM
Nice figures there smartguy...   There are only 3 kinds of lies...   Lies, damn lies, and statistics. But had you been a real scholar you might have taken into consideration that out of lets say 2500 that fly in the MA, I bet less than 8% actually even look at the BBS. So now we are considering 200 people. Out of those 200 people, I would say that only 86.46% of them actually knew I had a thread about the pizza map. So that leaves only 216 people. Out of those 216 people I bet only 24.56% of them read my thread. So that means 53 people read my thread. Out of those 53 people, the thread got 42 replies. So that roughly translates into a 79.25% disapproval rating. Clearly sir, your statistics are wrong. But thanks for your input.

kappa
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Heinkel on December 03, 2002, 05:35:54 PM
Is it hard to stick-stir on the AK Pizza map? Never heard someone whine sooo much before....:rolleyes:
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: hazed- on December 03, 2002, 05:38:57 PM
and by the time i had read 25.678% of this thread i couldnt care less..... :D
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: WhiteHawk on December 03, 2002, 05:40:38 PM
It wouldnt suck if didnt take a week to reset it.
Its just to damm big.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: WhiteHawk on December 03, 2002, 05:42:05 PM
anyhow..it seems that the online opinion is maybe. 20-25%
hate it,  50% tolerate it, 15% dont care, and I think 1  
guy said he liked it.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 03, 2002, 05:43:39 PM
but clearly cared enough to reply!  Screw you guys.. clearly this thread is to HTC. heinkle   we should duel sometime... The only thing I could think to be more frightening is rearranging my shirt drawer.
Title: Re: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Puck on December 03, 2002, 05:47:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kappa
Dudes,

Please take note of my last Pizza map thread. Specifically notice the fact of 42 replies in 24hrs. I have been told that the AKs submitted HTC an updated version of the pizza map that has different terrain skins and limited base altitudes. I only ask where is this map? These two alterations alone should squander 90% of the maps complaints. Waiting for HTC’s reply……  

kappa


"squander" 90% of the complaints?  If you're going to pay $0.25 for a word at least figure out what it is.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKIron on December 03, 2002, 05:47:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kappa
but clearly cared enough to reply!  Screw you guys.. clearly this thread is to HTC. heinkle   we should duel sometime... The only thing I could think to be more frightening is rearranging my shirt drawer.


Obviously it's not.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 03, 2002, 06:00:29 PM
Please enlighten me to the true meaning of “squander”……  After all puck, it did cost me 27 cents.  Clearly I thought it could also mean to .. humm.. let me pay some money again....    O wait, there it is.... 1. To scatter; to disperse.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Urchin on December 03, 2002, 06:04:41 PM
Yea... but it isn't really good in that context.  You *squander* money, or resources.  You don't squander complaints.  At least not as far as I know.  It just seems wrong to me, but I couldn't give you a good explanation why.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Puck on December 03, 2002, 06:06:41 PM
Wrong context.  I forgot the :D in my last post; my apologies  :)

You can squander money, resources, assets, all sorts of things you want.  You generally quash, eliminate, even squash things you don't (like complaints  :) ).
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 03, 2002, 06:09:17 PM
ya ya.. and you can "squander a rebellion" too. You guys are really quick to chime in about BS. Wrong context.. LMAO! I guess you guys are english teachers.. lol
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 03, 2002, 06:18:34 PM
You got 42 replies to your thread.

4 times from you.

2 times from Manedew.

14 replies from people who could care less.

I'm sure you can do the math on that one, afterall, you took the time to figure out how many people you guesstimated read the thread and how many people you guesstimated agreed with you.
-SW
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: funkedup on December 03, 2002, 06:23:12 PM
What was Mathman's line about exhibitionistic autofellatio?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 03, 2002, 06:34:31 PM
well if 14 could careless, why did they reply?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Saurdaukar on December 03, 2002, 06:37:22 PM
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
You got 42 replies to your thread.

4 times from you.

2 times from Manedew.

14 replies from people who could care less.

I'm sure you can do the math on that one, afterall, you took the time to figure out how many people you guesstimated read the thread and how many people you guesstimated agreed with you.
-SW


Yes, but what about the 90.37% of the people that cant bear to post how much they hate pizza because the word itself causes nausea?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 03, 2002, 06:37:53 PM
Maybe the updated POS pizza map will come along with the 1.11 update.  I heard that there are 3 new maps coming down the pipe, including a remake of the beta map.

Don't worry kappa, this is one thing you and I agree on, pizza map is a POS in its current state :D


ack-ack
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: BigGun on December 03, 2002, 06:37:56 PM
just to confuse the simpleminded mathmetician
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 03, 2002, 06:46:12 PM
how the hell do you squander a rebellion?  I've heard of quashing a rebellion, never squandering one  lol.
Squander is more personal and negative...like: squandering an opportunity.
A thread on a BBS that is intended for only one person?  Lol Why not just send an email?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 03, 2002, 06:48:27 PM
Kappa- because they thought your thread was an inane rant?

Saur- okay, but maybe they have a mental affliction if such a common word as "pizza" is causing them so much mental anguish.
-SW
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 03, 2002, 06:56:12 PM
you guys crack me up.... I am only trying to make it better for all, yet all of you want to attack in some form or another. Why must you? It seems I voice myself about my dislike for the pizza more than others, but no matter what eyes you guys see my thread with, the fact remains I am not alone. Find this much gerenal annoyance with any other map....... Can you? I merely state fact and all you guys want to do is ask where my map submission is to HTC and critique my grammar. I am not a paid employee of HTC nor am I an English teacher. If you guys have valid points to make about the ‘subject’ of my threads, please do. This thread was merely to find out were the other map the AKs submitted was. Not to get into an english and statistic (ummm... lets see, whats a good word) muddle about.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 03, 2002, 06:59:27 PM
lol and who could forget steve the stalker

inane rant? wolfe, whats your point for posting in first place? Are you sure your numbers are right? 14 didnt care? right right right... Are you still trying to make a valid point someone will back you up with ?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: spothq on December 03, 2002, 07:01:40 PM
Where is the other map?

Is there a screenshot, or information online about it?

*goes over to ak's site
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: JB73 on December 03, 2002, 07:30:09 PM
well i submitted the basic idea for a map to HTC 9-24-02 or there abouts...

the thread is HERE (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=65254)

Last i heard about a month ago from Skuzzy is that Ronnie had it...

now i never did hear back about us trying to make it or if they decided to undertake the task themselves but the fact that it was passed around the HTC office is encouraging. :)
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: spothq on December 03, 2002, 08:01:33 PM
That's cool, but I meant where is the refurb'd AK desert map
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 03, 2002, 08:25:01 PM
You can go back and initiate a recount Kappa... I took my time to count, it ain't hard to see which ones said "it sucks" and which ones were posting off the wall stuff that didn't have anything to do with them disliking the map.

There's people out there who do like the Pizza map, above the other maps, you aren't exactly making the game better for them by advocating it's removal

The other AK desert map is in HTC's hands, it's basically the same thing with revised alts and colors. It's been in their hands for sometime and has not replaced the current one... perhaps they want to leave it... perhaps not.

Question is, do you have a valid point Kappa? Not really, not anymore than I do.
-SW
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: spothq on December 03, 2002, 08:32:30 PM
What are you talking about Kappa doesn't have a point?

Are you on the same freaking planet here? People hate the current incarnation of that map., they tolerate it.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 03, 2002, 08:34:08 PM
For every person who says they hate it, I see a person who says he likes it....

Of course, the person who hates it tends to repeat it about a hundred times leading people to believe more people hate it than actually do.
-SW
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: spothq on December 03, 2002, 08:38:16 PM
Err wrong, you're biased, those colors suck, you're contradicting yourself, there wouldn't be a revision if they didn't suck.

I can see this isn't going to go anywhere, so get your retort over with and be happy with it, because I'm done with this thread
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 03, 2002, 08:42:54 PM
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me.
-SW
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 03, 2002, 08:45:29 PM
Steve the stalker?  LOL!!  You were the one sending me insults directly on private channel(I didn't bother to respond).  LOL!!!!!
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: SunKing on December 03, 2002, 09:14:14 PM
"There's people out there who do like the Pizza map, above the other maps"

Yes all their call signs start with AK and they stand in a circle pattting each other on the back. oh and Brady..

I hope there is really an altered pizza map due soon.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Toad on December 03, 2002, 09:35:28 PM
I happen to be one of those that LIKES the Pizza map.

Lake Uterus and ND ISLES pretty well bore me to tears.

Mindy is fun, Scandanavia is OK.

Just my .02.

Didn't post in the other thread; seem to remember that Kappa asked those that liked the map not to post. So I didn't.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 03, 2002, 09:40:15 PM
Actually we pat each other on the butt.
-SW
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKIron on December 03, 2002, 10:57:07 PM
Not all the AK's like the desert map. But they make the best of it since Hitech has left it as is in the rotation.

The whining started a month before the map was even available and hasn't stopped by a vocal few since. If Hitech has ignored the relatively few whiners this long (6 months?) what makes you think he's gonna listen to a newbie like you Kappa?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 03, 2002, 11:17:52 PM
"There's people out there who do like the Pizza map, above the other maps, you aren't exactly making the game better for them by advocating it's removal.

AKS\/\/ulfe"

Sorry, this thread is not about its removal.

"The other AK desert map is in HTC's hands, it's basically the same thing with revised alts and colors. It's been in their hands for sometime and has not replaced the current one... perhaps they want to leave it... perhaps not.

Question is, do you have a valid point Kappa? Not really, not anymore than I do.

AKS\/\/ulfe"

Had you been more concerned with reading the post rather than flaming, you might have noticed that color and altitude are the two main arguments against the map. My post was asking HTC what happened to the map. That’s all. Since, I have had many chime in with senseless and otherwise pointless arguments that lead no where.

And Steve the stalker, those were not insults and you may have been busy but you did not respond because you were muted fool..... For 10 mins if I did it right....  Dont make me do it again!

Losers and pointless arguments aside, I am just wondering were the revised map went? Why we, the customers, can not get a choice. If the revised map is liked by more, wulfe, do you not feel like you can put your peeved ego aside?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 03, 2002, 11:40:37 PM
This thread is about it's removal, you want the current one replaced with one that has lower alts.. so it is about it's removal.

Some people happen to like the map as it is... so see, it is about it's removal.

I didn't flame anyone, if anyone was doing it- it was you.

See, here you're doing it again: "If the revised map is liked by more, wulfe, do you not feel like you can put your peeved ego aside?"

For whatever reason you thought this :"Specifically notice the fact of 42 replies in 24hrs." was going to make a point, so I refuted it by showing you the real stats. Then you got all huffy when I called your last thread an inane rant...

You know just as well as I do that a call to HTC will get an answer quicker than posting another thread which would be used to further convey your dislike for the map.
-SW
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: SirLoin on December 03, 2002, 11:46:05 PM
"If you choose to not decide,you still have made a choice"
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 04, 2002, 12:15:03 AM
wulfe

Its pointless to argue with you. Your as clear as a windowpane with your disillusioned retorts ever so worried about out doing the last comment.  You even quoted my question and could not anwser it. So let me put it this way in your words, “For every person who says they hate it, I see a person who says he likes it.... Wulfe” Ok, all well and fine. That means by using your math there is only a 50% approval rating. You can’t even elect a president on that. If it were found that more folks liked the revised map, would it not be better? And wulfe, if so many do like it, prove it…   please my man! I want to hear from this silent but growing majority. Find me that majority that thinks AKDesert does not need improvement…..
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Saintaw on December 04, 2002, 01:47:01 AM
SW, Just pull a list of who likes Pizza's colour tiles and high altitude fields ?

It seems that the biggest rason some poeple like Pizza is because of it's size (less cramped), lots of GV action, and a choice in what you can do.

If we have one the same size/ setup with a coulour that doesn't hurt the eye and earth like altitude for fields... wouldn't that make most of us happy ?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: BNM on December 04, 2002, 02:01:12 AM
Who is this kappa dweeb anyway? :D

I would sure like to see this new map as the light color and altitudes are my only complaint.

A slightly darker overall tone would be great as well as not having to climb 30 mins to arrive at an airfield on the deck.

I like the canyons alot. They remind me of that one little gap through the mountains in AW4W waaaay back when. Be nice if they were a little wider in places with a little more angle to the sides in places.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: brady on December 04, 2002, 02:03:01 AM
Did somebody mention that I like it, the Pizza map?, cause I do, a whole freaking lot, and I know a buch of folks who do as well.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 04, 2002, 02:20:36 AM
Ha! BNM, I remember that canyon or gap (whatever we called it). lol But i remember it being really narrow...
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Apar on December 04, 2002, 02:32:58 AM
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You got 42 replies to your thread.

4 times from you.

2 times from Manedew.

14 replies from people who could care less.

I'm sure you can do the math on that one, afterall, you took the time to figure out how many people you guesstimated read the thread and how many people you guesstimated agreed with you.
-SW


Wrong Wulfe, we replied because the map sucks!
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 04, 2002, 02:36:04 AM
opps
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKIron on December 04, 2002, 09:10:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Apar
Wrong Wulfe, we replied because the map sucks!


Used to have a sayin' in the military, "A squeakin' GI is a happy GI". Not sure this was always true but I do know that there are some that will always find something to squeak about.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 04, 2002, 10:47:41 AM
Yeah Apar, well I saw some guys who didn't say it sucked in that thread... so I guess that they still thought it sucked despite saying something else, huh? That's some wierd conclusions you came to.

SAW, why do I have to do anything? The only meaningful poll is one done in the MA, and only HTC can run one of those.

FYI Kappa, your thread only shows roughly 20odd people think the map sucks... prolly about 35 now... which in turn means you have just as much information to say that the majority of people think the map sucks as I do for people that like it.

Of course I expect more personal insults and flames coming.

So bring it on.
-SW
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Apar on December 04, 2002, 10:55:06 AM
True Iron (I'm military, though not a GI, :D)

Nevertheless, there also lotsa plp that can't take criticism, ;)

Because this is a map created by players we're not allowed to comment, criticise it?? If we do so we have to make a map of our own first?? I don't think so, I pay for this game, and I criticise game features if I want to.

Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the effort the AK's have put into the big map, and I'm sure the effort is not a waist, it will contribute allot to future big maps. Hell, I'm even happy with HT paying or compensating the AK's involved.

At the moment though, the map is simply too big, with too many fronts making it hard to get a good idea about the strat situation let be defendable. The overal alt of the fields is too high and in favour of planes that perform well on high alts (which makes it a CT map for me). The map favours milk running and large No countries (more than usual) because if it's fronts. Last I have problems with the contrast between planes and ground, making it hard to spot planes against the ground.

Do what you want with it, if not improved, I'm in favour of taking it out of roulation.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKIron on December 04, 2002, 11:07:44 AM
Apar, I never said you had no right to criticize. Constructive criticism is one thing, pissin' and moanin' using inflammatory jargon is another. There will always be some that would complain rather than do something about their situation.

Kinda reminds me of the ole sayin "There are three kinds of people in the world: those who make things happen, those who watch things happen, those who wonder what happened."
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Horn on December 04, 2002, 12:02:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Of course I expect more personal insults and flames coming.

So bring it on.
-SW


Ok you jerk, I LIKE the pizza map!

so there.

dh
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 04, 2002, 12:33:08 PM
Kappa, you're improving.  However, I was busy and certainly not muted. I didn't do anything to get muted(that time) but I'm not sure a mute nazi would have bothered muting me for responding to your relentless albeit unimaginative insults.  I have forgotten what is was you sent to me on private chat... I do remember you called me a loser though(one of your most common insults as evidenced by how you interact with others on this board). I guess if you're really interested, I could forward the film to you. You need to get something clear: I'm not going to stop anwering your insults with responses of my own.. ever.  Since the in-game moderators see fit to give you free reign to abuse people, I will respond in kind, time allowing.  You may have carte blanche to insult people and that's fine.. but at least from me, you're going to get what you give..it's a given that my retorts won't be QUITE as juvenile as yours.  I know you don't like it, but get used to it stunninghunk.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Saintaw on December 04, 2002, 03:14:21 PM
Akswulfe, I was just proposing since you were offering us raw data to work on... ;)
(spending wayy to much time with stats at work here to even remotely enjoy them during my leasure time... ooooops!)
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 04, 2002, 05:02:49 PM
Steve the stalker,

Dude, you are SUCH a moron! No, you were muted. And yes, I called you a loser on private channel because you are a loser. You figure you can not beat me in 1v1 in MA so you attempt to here? Hence, your such a loser you wont duel me. Yes, loser in the most factual sense. Steve, let me demonstrate. You are such a stalker you cannot seem to leave me alone. I ask you repeatedly not to speak to me. I post a topic and your such an bellybutton you dont even attempt to respond to the topic, you much rather attack me with an english critique. Your such a loser you have yet to answer any of my threads with something other than an attack of some form. Stop talking to me. I promise if you dont talk to me I wont insult you. You, loser! Just go away, drop dead, or stfu! So, please steve the stalker, get a life and leave me the fek alone! If you have an opinion, state it and leave my name out! Otherwise, go away, drop dead or stfu!
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 04, 2002, 05:35:43 PM
Kappa the complete ignoramus:

I checked the kill totals for both of us.  Since I started playing this game, I have killed you 9 times.  In that same amount of time, you've killed me 8.  You've killed me less than I've killed you!!!  That's right, since the day I was "born" in this game.. I've killed you more.  LOL.  I've killed you more than you've killed me in the MA... I own you in the MA.  Your skills have either peaked or are eroding..mine are only getting better.
I never said I wouldn't duel you,  handsomehunk.  I was busy fighting while you were spewing about how great you are.  By the time I was finished, you had typed your insults on private channel and logged off like a little squeak.  As far as bring muted, you're either mistaken or a liar.. you choose.. I could care less.  Listen child, your last post was full of more base insults...leave you alone?  lol not until you stop runnin your mouth behind your momma's skirts. Shut your bellybutton up or deal with me.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: MrLars on December 04, 2002, 05:39:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Steve
Kappa the complete ignoramus:

I checked the kill totals for both of us.  Since I started playing this game, I have killed you 9 times.  In that same amount of time, you've killed me 8.  You've killed me less than I've killed you!!!  That's right, since the day I was "born" in this game.. I've killed you more.  LOL.  I've killed you more than you've killed me in the MA... I own you in the MA.  Your skills have either peaked or are eroding..mine are only getting better.
I never said I wouldn't duel you,  handsomehunk.  I was busy fighting while you were spewing about how great you are.  By the time I was finished, you had typed your insults on private channel and logged off like a little squeak.  As far as bring muted, you're either mistaken or a liar.. you choose.. I could care less.  Listen child, your last post was full of more base insults...leave you alone?  lol not until you stop runnin your mouth behind your momma's skirts. Shut your bellybutton up or deal with me.


Yadda, yadda, yadda....an' I got 14 inches...tucked in my sock...so there!
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 04, 2002, 06:12:10 PM
Lets duel steve! Now ok?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 04, 2002, 06:25:27 PM
I'm on my laptop at one of my offices.  Why should we duel?  I've already killed you more than you've killed me. KILLED YOU MORE..and these are the first 4 months I've ever played... bested by a noob.  Tell ya what though, when I'm in the mood for dueling, and at home, ,I'll look you up.  I'll duel ya when I feel like it, not when you're in the mood for it because you've been slapped around on ch1 and on the boards mroe than you can handle...bested again.  In the mean time, if you want me to quit knocking you around, stop yapping.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 04, 2002, 06:26:47 PM
Oh, Mr' Lars,
14"?  impressive!
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 04, 2002, 06:32:15 PM
lol steve the stalker.. you suckass......    out of all the times you killed me NONE were 1v1..........    The reason you should duel me? To prove your not a loser of course.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 04, 2002, 06:42:23 PM
Kappa, we play almost exclusively in the MA.. where I have KILLED YOU MORE than you've killed me.  By definition if I've beaten you more than you've beaten me... YOU'RE THE LOSER.   Take it kappa!

None of the 9 times I've killed you were 1v1?  Are you such a psycho that you remember all 9?


Take it!
Title: Pizza sucks
Post by: BNshill on December 04, 2002, 06:45:57 PM
The map stinks, and for every knit i see praising it - i see 5 or more...  who hate it. My guess is Wulf's bish milkrunning buddies are his source of 1-1 even ratio for/against. Gee no wonder they usually win, we all just furball while dweeb teams of 2-3 guys milkrun. Taking bases that are undefended is just pathetic. Sure helps the rank though huh?
 
Talk about increasing firepower for CV's? How bout Actual BASES too? 2 guys should NEVER be able to capture a base.. period.


Oh, did i mention i hate the pizza map?

:D
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Voss on December 04, 2002, 07:00:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by brady
Good grief only 42 people out of 2500 or so who play in the MA?


I think there are more than 2500 by a significant amount (at least 1000 more), but only about 2500 bother to score sorties outside of fighter.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 04, 2002, 07:08:58 PM
Steve, so your saying you wont duel me? Dont be pathetic and throw numbers at me.. yes or no? We duel 10 times... I bet I beat you at least 9 of them.. You can pick the plane.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: MrLars on December 04, 2002, 07:13:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Steve
Oh, Mr' Lars,
14"?  impressive!


LOL, maybe so but the wife says it's a pain in the ass....oops, you CAN do that in Texas w/o getting tossed in the morality jail, can't you?
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKIron on December 04, 2002, 07:44:23 PM
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Originally posted by MrLars
LOL, maybe so but the wife says it's a pain in the ass....oops, you CAN do that in Texas w/o getting tossed in the morality jail, can't you?


Mr. Lars, methinks you may have been a bit tounge tied, perhaps you meant 14" of sock tucked in? :p
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 04, 2002, 08:18:58 PM
Steve: 9
Kappa: 8

Take it!
Title: Re: Pizza sucks
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 04, 2002, 08:55:08 PM
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Originally posted by BNshill
My guess is Wulf's bish milkrunning buddies are his source of 1-1 even ratio for/against. Gee no wonder they usually win, we all just furball while dweeb teams of 2-3 guys milkrun. Taking bases that are undefended is just pathetic. Sure helps the rank though huh?


Yeah that's it! I didn't even say I liked the map. I was just showing Kappa how redundant his poll was since it didn't even scratch the surface of how many players are in AH.

So how 'bout dem apples?
-SW
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: wire on December 04, 2002, 10:15:02 PM
I like the statistics part of this thread. Brady, I'm sorry, but like kappa pointed out, it's misleading to compare the number of replies posted here to the total population of AH. As kappa has said, the correct population to use is the community of people who visit and read the bulletin boards.

I looked at the last 100 threads posted and the number of replies received. Of the last 100 threads, the average number of replies was 16.43, the median was 6 and the mode was 1! (mode represents the number that occurs most often, right Mathman). Less than 40 threads received more than 10 replies and only 9 received more than 42 replies. If the last 100 threads is representative of all threads posted, it means the pizza map thread received more interest than 91% of the threads posted. Based on these “lying” statistics, I’d conclude there was a high level of interest in the pizza map thread.

Ahhhhhh………, I enjoyed that………hey, I can’t help it, I’m an accountant.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: NUKE on December 04, 2002, 11:24:24 PM
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If the last 100 threads is representative of all threads posted, it means the pizza map thread received more interest than 91% of the threads posted. Based on these “lying” statistics, I’d conclude there was a high level of interest in the pizza map thread.


LOL Stat boy!  How many of the responses had anything to do with the pizza map??

That's the problem with stats and numbers.... they can easily be used to make any point, yet still be very misleading.

The fact that most replied off topic does not mean that the pizza map itself is a big issue to people that post here, just based on simple replies....as Kappa implies
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Apar on December 05, 2002, 02:31:27 AM
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Apar, I never said you had no right to criticize. Constructive criticism is one thing, pissin' and moanin' using inflammatory jargon is another. There will always be some that would complain rather than do something about their situation.

Kinda reminds me of the ole sayin "There are three kinds of people in the world: those who make things happen, those who watch things happen, those who wonder what happened."


Iron,

Last thing on this from me, from what I have seen on this BBS on this particular topic is that many well meant critique on the Desert map has been categorised under the numerator of whine's and pissin and moaning by several AK's.
To me that seems a bit childish.

The fact that 'many' people log of when the Desert map pops up should say it all ('many' because it's meant in a relative way, and compared to other maps)

I do agree with one thing Wulfe has stated though.......it is time for a MA poll on the Desert map......and I'm very interested in the results.
;)
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 05, 2002, 03:45:00 AM
Damn wire, that was good! lol
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 05, 2002, 03:55:54 AM
Steve,

Your a yellow bellied sap sucker. You want me to deal with you? I dont think so. You know I will spank you, thus you are afraid to try. Clearly this would be the reason for not having the balls to anwser. Knowing now you are entirely too juvenile, you are not worth the time.  So fine, you win.... You are better... I loose.... So please, leave me alone....  Drop dead.... Whatever makes you happy..... Just go away

kappa

ps... Steve, you suckass
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Booky on December 05, 2002, 04:24:21 AM
Did someone say a rebuilt beta map?:eek:

Booky
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKcurly on December 05, 2002, 04:42:30 AM
This thread is locked.  Go clean your toilets or do anything you consider productive.

Many folks are unhappy with the textures in AKDesert; some are unhappy with the elevation choices; many like the elevation choices; many like the variety of gameplay.  Lazs is still pissed because he has trouble finding furballs.

There, I've convered it all.  Folks, the hoss is dead - quit beating it.

And besides, Kappa asked a simple question.  No reason to beat him up.

curly
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: straffo on December 05, 2002, 06:15:29 AM
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Originally posted by AKcurly
Many folks are unhappy with the textures in AKDesert


Personally I'm not unhappy I'm just colorblind and I bet there is no color blind in your squad otherwise you would know for sure that some textures just hurt colorblinds eyes :(

It's not a rant but more a constat.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKIron on December 05, 2002, 08:36:34 AM
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Originally posted by Apar
Iron,

Last thing on this from me, from what I have seen on this BBS on this particular topic is that many well meant critique on the Desert map has been categorised under the numerator of whine's and pissin and moaning by several AK's.
To me that seems a bit childish.

The fact that 'many' people log of when the Desert map pops up should say it all ('many' because it's meant in a relative way, and compared to other maps)

I do agree with one thing Wulfe has stated though.......it is time for a MA poll on the Desert map......and I'm very interested in the results.
;)


Apar, I have to disagree that there is even one "well meant critique" that was categorized as a whine by an AK and challenge you to reference it.

Curly, maybe kappa asked a simple question in this thread but there were quite few posts in others that were inflammatory. However, I'll just create an ignore list and add his name and be done with it.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Ripsnort on December 05, 2002, 08:46:45 AM
"If the revised map is liked by more, wulfe, do you not feel like you can put your peeved ego aside?"

Ohhh, the irony of such a statement when coming from a horses mouth :)
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Turbot on December 05, 2002, 09:01:01 AM
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Originally posted by wire
I like the statistics part of this thread. Brady, I'm sorry, but like kappa pointed out, it's misleading to compare the number of replies posted here to the total population of AH. As kappa has said, the correct population to use is the community of people who visit and read the bulletin boards.

I looked at the last 100 threads posted and the number of replies received. Of the last 100 threads, the average number of replies was 16.43, the median was 6 and the mode was 1! (mode represents the number that occurs most often, right Mathman). Less than 40 threads received more than 10 replies and only 9 received more than 42 replies. If the last 100 threads is representative of all threads posted, it means the pizza map thread received more interest than 91% of the threads posted. Based on these “lying” statistics, I’d conclude there was a high level of interest in the pizza map thread.

Ahhhhhh………, I enjoyed that………hey, I can’t help it, I’m an accountant.


However this ignores the human dynamic - people like to squeak a great deal more than praise.  Once you factor this in - which is tricky to do (who has the figures?) your milage will vary.

I don't mind the pizza map - a map is a map is a map.  I do like variety though.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: fffreeze220 on December 05, 2002, 10:00:15 AM
Hey kappa and steve u wanna duel me :) i got some cookies and milk for u :)
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: DrDea on December 05, 2002, 10:18:43 AM
Personaly I cant stand the pizza map.In fact just yesterday I deleted my account because Im tired of getting time off work only to log in and see 80 some people showing in CT and having that sick feeling in my gut KNOWING that the only reason numbers are that high in CT is because its pizza time again in the MA.I dont knock those that like the map.To each there own but Im not paying my $ to go into the game and see pizza every time I get 2 days off.Just isnt that nuch fun anymore.Tear it up guys,Maby I will see ya in the future.
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 05, 2002, 10:37:19 AM
Kappa, I'll duel you, when I feel like it..I'm not going to drop everything to duel you just because you are in your room raging impotently at the world.  When I'm in the mood, I'll drop you a line.  In the mean time,  have mommy drop an extra rytalin in your pill pack.  

Kappa I'm sure the rest of the thread readers got this, but let me point this out to you since obviously you just don't get it:

Kappa sentence: Dont be pathetic and throw numbers at me.. yes or no?

Kappa very next sentence:

We duel 10 times... I bet I beat you at least 9 of them.

Kappa you don't think numbers shouild be "thrown" at you but you "throw" numbers at me the very next sentence.
Kappa. you're such a handsomehunk.

Steve:  Steve 9, Kappa 8

Kappa:  Wahhhhhhh! (assorted insults)
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: Steve on December 05, 2002, 10:38:50 AM
Freeze, let's just say you kicked my butt in the duel so we can get straight to the cookies, ok?   :)
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: fffreeze220 on December 05, 2002, 10:45:01 AM
ok lol
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 05, 2002, 10:51:35 AM
Okay... I guess I'm one of the AK's who's been pissing and moaning about the map when a "well meant critique" gets replied to.

So lets just get the record straight. Kappa posted THIS in his thread: "Specifically notice the fact of 42 replies in 24hrs."

I pointed out to him the lack of replies that agreed the Pizza map sucked in my first post in this thread.

Kappa asked: "well if 14 could careless, why did they reply?"

I replied because it was an inane rant. (It was, and there's no denying that- the choice of words he used proves it)

Then he replies pissing and moaning... so who is it that was pissing and moaning this whole time?

Not me!
-SW
(yes, I AM bored- stuck in the house cuz of snow)
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: X2Lee on December 05, 2002, 12:04:00 PM
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Originally posted by kappa
I am only trying to make it better for all, yet all of you want to attack in some form or another. Why must you?  


I know why I must attack you Kappa. I saw you in a P38 and I saw you in a Niki. Also your cpid starts with a K and I HATE kaptain Kangaroo. Thats plenty enuff for me....

I heard from the inside grapevine that the pizza map is revamped and coming out with next release along with some other very nice maps.

Oh yeah your name also has PP in it and thats just disgusting.  

:cool:
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: kappa on December 05, 2002, 05:11:25 PM
lol thats great steve... How could I expect different
Title: Where is the AK's Map HTC?
Post by: MrLars on December 05, 2002, 06:05:11 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Mr. Lars, methinks you may have been a bit tounge tied, perhaps you meant 14" of sock tucked in? :p


Hehe, maybe that's why sex has been like shootin' pool with a rope lately....< TM G.Burns >

I gotta get my 'script re-filled, I'm out of my magic blue pills ;)