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Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Sabre on December 04, 2002, 06:02:28 PM
Hi, all!  We've got two possible set ups for this weekend.  Kanttori's Finland-Russia map is finally in Ronni's hands, but may or may not be blessed and loaded on the server in time.  If it is, I'd like to go with that one, even though it would involve Russia and Germany for a second week.  It's a facinating map, and an unusual planeset (with appropriate skins on all planes...they look GREAT!).

If it's not ready, we'll run a PTO plane set  on the Perdonia map.  It doesn't represent any particular local or time, but simply attempts to balance somewhat the capabilities of both sides.  Yes, the Allies will still have an advantage in Jabo capability, but that can't be helped.  The following plane set and settings will be used:

Japan:
CV - A6M5, D3A, TBM, LVT(2) and (4)

Airfields - N1K2, Ki-61, A6M5, Ki-67, D3A, C-47, all GV's except Panzer-IV and Ostwind

Vehicle Bases - All GV's except Panzer-IV and Ostwind

Allied:
CV - F6F, SBD, TBM, LVT(2) and (4)

Airfields - P-47D-11 & D-25, P-38L, P-40E, Boston-III, A-20, C-47, all GV's except Panzer-IV and Ostwind

Vehicle Bases - All GV's except Panzer-IV and Ostwind

Base capture will be enabled, radar (bar/dot) at 50/25, all other settings at CT standard.

Sabre
CT Staff
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Löwe on December 04, 2002, 07:29:45 PM
We just had 2 PTO setups in a row two weeks ago!!!!

People other than me keep asking for a late war ETO. Whats the problem with it, why do you guys keep ignoring it? You finnally give us the P-47, and it's freakin PTO. We're the only guys willing to fly Japanese as a squad to help out the 27th Sentai. So now we fly the P-47 finnally and watch the 27th sentai get banged to death, or we fly Japanese and miss our chance at the P-47, because for some reason you guys got a late war ETO bug up your ass.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: CurtissP-6EHawk on December 04, 2002, 07:42:46 PM
Yeah, maybe one day I will actually get to fly it......in ETO!
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Löwe on December 04, 2002, 07:56:12 PM
Hey Oboe, Keyapaha, and ODEE. FLY THE N1K2!!
Don't let the whiners guilt you with dweeb tags. As hard as you guys have had to fight, you owe it to yourselve's, kill em all, KILL EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Karnak on December 04, 2002, 08:12:45 PM
Sabre,

As much as I would like another run in the Pacific, it seems that we are long over due for a old fashioned summer, 1944 USAAF and RAF vs. the might of the Luftwaffe setup.

The guys who like that kind of setup have been waiting a long time now as the last few European theatre setups have been early war.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Miska on December 04, 2002, 09:31:03 PM
A 1944 ETO bomber offensive setup would be welcome.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Odee on December 04, 2002, 10:51:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Löwe
Hey Oboe, Keyapaha, and ODEE. FLY THE N1K2!!
Don't let the whiners guilt you with dweeb tags. As hard as you guys have had to fight, you owe it to yourselve's, kill em all, KILL EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D


:o  Yes, yes, Lowe-san, we of the 27th, (all 5 of us) are holding HT's cat hostage so we can garner more flying time in our beloved KI-61's and N1K's until the 84 arrives.  Then we shall have a ride worthy of your split-essing squad,  err.... P-47's vs our N1K2's :D  (joke)

BTW - I haven't been flying in a week.  PC died and I have to rebuild all those neat DL's and add-ons I once had...:eek:

oh... why is my name in all caps?  You singaling me out for a highlight name be wary of??? :p (joking)  I actually am honored that someone thinks that much of me to put my name in spotlights.:D

Yes we do fly the N1k2 in the MA (shudders at the thought of flying in there), but you know we love our adopted Ki61's every bit as much as our canon dweeb NiK's.  Hell, the 61's the only thing we have with near enough speed to keep up with you allies faster iron. :cool:

Hey!  Maybe 'we' can help y'all out in those 47's?
 ;)
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Jester on December 04, 2002, 10:57:09 PM
Sabre, I agree with the above. I think it is about time for a late war ETO set-up. From what I read on the forum here most of the guys aggree with me.

I don't have a problem with a PTO, CBI or Eastern Front scenario every now and then - it is only fair to those squads that are based on fighting in that Theater.

But it seems we have got in a real rut here lately with nothing but PTO, Eastern Front or BOB early war stuff. As much as we appreciate the work Kanttori put into making a new map for us we would rather have the Late War ETO scenario. Maybe something on the lines of Bigweek or something useing the Large Europe map.

WE WANT A LATE WAR ETO SET-UP!
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Xjazz on December 05, 2002, 01:24:12 AM
S!! all

Kanttoris map, please.

It would be nice to have it 6 Dec, in our independent day.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Karnak on December 05, 2002, 02:21:50 AM
I wasn't objecting to Finland vs. Russia.

I do think the alternate should be a Summer of '44 over Western Europe though.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 05, 2002, 02:26:02 AM
How bout early P47s and P38s against FW190A5, Bf109G2 and Bf109G6. And some B17s, A20, B26?

Late 1943 escort scenario?
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: brady on December 05, 2002, 03:17:40 AM
As previously Stated, their are two maps on the way for a 44 plane set, one in the East and one in the west eta MID December, late December. Finland is alos about ready, It will be up this week or next hopefully, after that 44 is mostlikely the next timeframe plane set.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Warsun on December 05, 2002, 03:29:55 AM
Nothing like heart pounding, dog fighting, bombing, 1944 Allie vs Axis excitement, wether toward France or Germany escort missions, bombers and all. I would really like to see this aswell, and would be happy if you ran that for a month. A classic battle of the best of the best for dominance of Europe.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Löwe on December 05, 2002, 07:42:46 AM
I don't object to Finland, I really don't object to a PTO. I was expecting Finland because I know guys have been working hard on the map, and the skins. I know a lot of people are waiting to fly it. If however it's not ready, I was hoping to see a late war ETO for a change. I think Sabre's choice of the PTO setup was an attempt to make everybody happy, by the planes he included.
It is a good idea, if there are enough Japanese players, which there never seems to be. So that leaves the 325th flying the p-47 finally in what would be lopsided numbers against the Japanese guys, or flying Japanese the whole week against P-47s. It just kind twisted my knickers.:eek:

Guess theres no easy solution, you can't make everybody happy all the time. I will settle for once every 6 weeks though.:D  This over two months of constant 1943 and earlier gets old after a while.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: o0Stream140o on December 05, 2002, 03:27:19 PM
I am rather new to this message board and CT it's self.  I have only been flying in CT for a couple of months.  CT is a lot better than flying in that mass jungle called MA.  I just wanted to make some comments towards the Late ETO themes.  I joined the 325th to be able to fly the P-51 in CT, but right now it doesn't really look like I am going to do it. So I end up flying it in MA.  My point is this, it seems like there is a little click that dictates what is going to happen in CT. I don't mind flying the older planes and even flying for the emperor in PTO actions. Myself and along with others would like to see some late ETO's.  I mean why command a squadron of P-51's if you never get to fly them.  If I could design the terrain for the late ETO's I would but like I said before, I am still new to some aspects of this AH. I don't mean to ruffle any feathers but I would like to fly my P-51 in CT someday.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Karnak on December 05, 2002, 03:32:35 PM
I do like the proposed Pacific setup you have there Sabre.

I would like to see it run sometime, but I think the Summer or Fall of '44 over Western Europe is needed, and soon.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: brady on December 05, 2002, 03:47:41 PM
It would be nice if we had some late war Army fighters that faught the P51's in China like the Ki 84. As it is now all we have realy are the Lateer Navy Fighters which realy did not see a lot of action aganst the P51's.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Löwe on December 05, 2002, 04:48:35 PM
Brady.
I would like to see the KI-84 as well. To tell you the truth, I'd like to see the N1K2 in more PTO setups since there is no KI-84. 3 to 1 odds against the Japanese pilots, then complaining about the N1K2 is ludicrus. If your not going to balance the side with the least numbers, you shouldnt squeak about what planes they fly.  This I won't fly in the CT if the N1k2 is in the setup, but i'll damn sure seal club if it isnt , is total crap. If maybe the N1K2 was in more setups, more people would fly Japanese, and not everyone would flock to the Allied planes.
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Löwe on December 05, 2002, 04:52:47 PM
Oh Yeah Jester, Hawk, whats with those booger green P-47s?:D
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: o0Stream140o on December 05, 2002, 05:33:19 PM
Okay got to post the P-51 too
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: ergRTC on December 05, 2002, 06:14:01 PM
How bout we settle on the pac setup he is offering for this coming week, then the nice 43 or 44 setups offered above?  Can we all agree on that?  I think both will be winners, we have not seen the niki in months!

erg
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Sabre on December 05, 2002, 06:51:24 PM
Sorry I haven't answered sooner.  I had  some PC problems of my own, and haven't been at my regular office at work the last couple of days.  I understand everyone's sentiments regarding a late war ETO set up.  To be honest, it's not the late war planes I dislike, but the fact we don't have a decent CT terrain for it.  10Bears' Germany terrain looks good, but doesn't have good airfield density and dispersion for CT play.  Plus, we've just had two weeks of Luftwaffe-centered fighting...I just thought it was time to go back to the PTO (2 non-ETO's, 1 PTO).  I also noted that we very seldom have either the N1K, P-38, or P-47 in many set ups, and thought it would be a fun set up for all.

Frankly,  I was more worried people would be upset if I ran Finland-Russia, since the planeset is so similar to the current one.  Anyway, I'm  going to go with this PTO set up if Kanttori's terrain isn't ready on time.  For what it's worth, there's several good terrains coming up (Po Valley in Italy, for one) that will be the perfect place to pit the '44 a/c against each other.

I hope people will have fun with it.  I will, and will probably fly Japanese almost exclusively.

Respectfully,
Sabre
CT Staff
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Karnak on December 05, 2002, 07:03:12 PM
Thanks for the reply and explanation Sabre.

Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: Jester on December 06, 2002, 12:31:59 AM
So in "Plain English" you just told us, very politely, that we aren't going to get a ETO set-up.

CONTENT EDITED BY POSTIE.  

:rolleyes:
Title: Set up for Dec 6
Post by: brady on December 06, 2002, 12:56:36 AM
ergRTC, sabre's curnent CT set up has the George in it,what I ment is that the George did not fight the P51 hardely at all compared to the Ki 84 and since that is the case P51's  while comparatively rare in the Pacific are not matched aganst it to much set up wise.