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Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: DoctorYO on December 05, 2002, 02:02:34 PM
After noticing rook numbers dropping after the recent score potato campaingn I have concluded that 7 of the top 10 pilots listed on the ranks page are Bish...

Note that 2-3 are recent converts to the Bish horde...

Now I know some of you (Bish will only comment) will claim how the good pilots like to fly with eachother, but the real reason is more than obvious.

The horde provides protection.... Thru Fodder, lemmings, leets, whatever you want to call them.

I really dont mind the long time bish scum..  We all know they are not worth their salt without their fodder backing them...

Its the new converts that amuses me.

Dont take my word for go check the stats for yourself....   Youll see who is mess hall bacon (Lazer) :p and who isn't (AGJV44) :D

Is attrition model ever needed...  you make the call...


my regards,


DoctorYO
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: funkedup on December 05, 2002, 02:04:17 PM
Nothing brave about computer game playing so I don't see how you could have cowardice either.  Get a life Doc.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Sandman on December 05, 2002, 02:05:30 PM
What he said...

Forget about honor also.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: DoctorYO on December 05, 2002, 02:09:38 PM
"Get a Life"

good thing i brought my tackle box with me...

DoctorYo 5 ,  Leets 1/2  

(Bogarts gets honorable mention) Who the hell is Bogart  :D  naw I know who humprey was, note was....

batdog you have 2 points to your credit.. wtg bud..  profanity too...  or is that short for donkey...

 I guess the shoe fit with the leet part.. after review I noted your Bish and your score fits into the fodder catagory; outstanding.




:eek:


DoctorYo
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: funkedup on December 05, 2002, 02:11:05 PM
:)
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: batdog on December 05, 2002, 02:11:42 PM
Yea... I'm a pixel warrior, a true soldier. Fear me, respect me PLEASE!


I fly Bish... my sqaudies fly Bish.... we get GB'd as much as anybody on our time frame. I an KNOWN for getting my arse in deep doo doo.


This is why this game is getting silly lately. To many tards unable to fiqure out the difference between RL and pixel "I'm a hero" land.


xBAT
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: gofaster on December 05, 2002, 02:11:47 PM
Doc, you're right. I've had that opinion since Tuesday.

I jumped to Bish yesterday just to see what all the fuss was about over there.  I joined a NOE mission that had 13 players and  ROCSTAR was advertising that he needed 13 more.  We launched with 4 goons and 10-plus Mustangs and an equal number of Spitfires.  By the time I got to the city, there were only 2 or 3 Knights in LA-5s and -7s to defend and everything was pretty much blown up.  The biggest challenge for me was to drop my troops so that they could get into the map room before we captured the airfield with someone else's troops.  Easiest points I've scored all week.

Jumped back to Knights this morning and was crushed by the Bishop offensive from the south.

If this game was free, I wouldn't mind it so much, but is the pain really worth the dough I'm spending, when I could fly Bish and fly missions in my C47 enjoy the security of world domination?
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Elysian on December 05, 2002, 02:15:50 PM
Lazer left rooks at least a week before the competition was even posted, he wanted to rejoin his old squad.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Saurdaukar on December 05, 2002, 02:18:16 PM
So in summary:

Bish horde gangbangs Knights
Bish horde gangbangs Rooks
Knight horde gangbangs Bish
Knight horde gangbangs Rooks
Rook horde gangbangs Bish
Rook horde gangbangs Knights
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: DoctorYO on December 05, 2002, 02:21:23 PM
Batdog your hypocrisy knows no bounds..  Once again simple text has incited heated emotional repsonse.

Text (stimulii) has forced you to reply...

Ill add another point to the DoctorYo score board listed on the reply above...

Kind of like the Kings Gambit you never see youve lost until the game is over...

Have a nice day Batdog...

You have lost...  but your brain is too feeble to understand how....


Regards,


DoctorYO

PS:  You said the game is getting silly :  silly is what you make of it....
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Goth on December 05, 2002, 02:39:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DoctorYO

Ill add another point to the DoctorYo score board listed on the reply above...

Kind of like the Kings Gambit you never see youve lost until the game is over...


You have lost...  but your brain is too feeble to understand how....


Regards,


DoctorYO

PS:  You said the game is getting silly :  silly is what you make of it....


I say you are doo doo, therefore, you must be. Gotta love logic.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: gofaster on December 05, 2002, 02:39:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
So in summary:

Bish horde gangbangs Knights
Bish horde gangbangs Rooks
Knight horde gangbangs Bish
Knight horde gangbangs Rooks
Rook horde gangbangs Bish
Rook horde gangbangs Knights


There's a Rook horde?
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Shamus on December 05, 2002, 02:39:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DoctorYO
Batdog your hypocrisy knows no bounds..  Once again simple text has incited heated emotional repsonse.

Text (stimulii) has forced you to reply...

Ill add another point to the DoctorYo score board listed on the reply above...

Kind of like the Kings Gambit you never see youve lost until the game is over...

Have a nice day Batdog...

You have lost...  but your brain is too feeble to understand how....


Regards,


DoctorYO

PS:  You said the game is getting silly :  silly is what you make of it....


In the olden days I would of accused you of "Bogarting" if i'd heard somthing like this :)

shamus
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Pepe on December 05, 2002, 02:49:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by gofaster
There's a Rook horde?


Sure there is. Usually half in size to Knights and quarter to Lemmings  :D
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: batdog on December 05, 2002, 02:57:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DoctorYO
Batdog your hypocrisy knows no bounds..  Once again simple text has incited heated emotional repsonse.

Text (stimulii) has forced you to reply...

Ill add another point to the DoctorYo score board listed on the reply above...

Kind of like the Kings Gambit you never see youve lost until the game is over...

Have a nice day Batdog...

You have lost...  but your brain is too feeble to understand how....


Regards,


DoctorYO



PS:  You said the game is getting silly :  silly is what you make of it....




Yea... the mighty troll has won. He has proven his mighty keyboard is the master of all. I'm in awe of your sheer ability to stir the pot, annoy people and be an ass. Yes... you certainly DO have me beaten hands down there.


xBAT
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Karnak on December 05, 2002, 03:14:45 PM
Balance mechanisms are coming in v1.11.

Let's wait and see what effect they have before stomping out of the playground in a huff.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: VOR on December 05, 2002, 04:19:44 PM
This thread is CLEARLY a case of not enough knight pancakes to cover a doghouse. If you would only realise that the bish canoe is broken it might become clear to you why the rook sasquatch painted his toenails, thus creating the problem in the first place.


PS...Confuscious, shut up.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Saurdaukar on December 05, 2002, 04:37:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by gofaster
There's a Rook horde?


There is if youre a kniggit or a Bish - see the pattern here?
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: funkedup on December 05, 2002, 05:57:27 PM
Where's Rude.  This clown is a classic.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: CavemanJ on December 06, 2002, 07:43:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
There is if youre a kniggit or a Bish - see the pattern here?


Seems some folks only see what they want to see, and deny clear evidence and continue making assinine statements.

Or they just like the way things are right now and fear change, and the balance it might bring, since the Rooks probably have the best pilots right now (who needs to hide behind fodder? :D )
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: lazs2 on December 06, 2002, 07:58:41 AM
cowardice is just a convienient word for what is going on... lately..  I guess 'timid', 'fragile ego'  and 'greedy' would describe it better... but it's the the way the game is now...

I don't know if it's all the the new guys who still aren't bored with swarming a bunch of buildings and maybe seeing one con to fight over or....

It is the vets joining in because of fragile egos or...

It is the new emphasis on gameplay... the "missun" and the "competition" that plays to the guys who allways new they were the best and that people were beating em because their real talents weren't showcased..  

In any case... it's not as fun... can't find a decent furball much anymore... No one seems to one to fight for the sake of fighting... no one wants to participate in a large fight with fairly even numbers...

I'm guessing it's cyclical and that the new guys will get a little more confidence and the building battling and 'strat" will get old pretty soon now... the crabby old vets with the more anal objectives will drift on into the new "missun" arena where they will argue about strat and how their rank or score or something isn't appreciated.  And yes, if you are in doubt about who I am refering to.... I just called yu a wussy little strat weinie.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: gofaster on December 06, 2002, 09:13:35 AM
The only Rook horde I've seen was Woody, MAC, and a couple/three other guys doing repeated runs in P-38s and Corsairs over my city before sending in the goon.  Woody got 6 kills off of my FM2, MAC picked up a couple, too.  I got each of them at least once, plus one of the other guys.  That ain't a horde, that's determination!:p
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: SLO on December 06, 2002, 09:27:50 AM
1st started knights...was much fun with alot of excellent old friends....

2nd went rooks....no friends:(

3rd bishops...many many new friends an old 1 's too:D

up to now I have seen 2 ways to play this game.

1 - join the furball
2-  get furballed

whats so hard to comprehend about that...ITS SIMPLE.....now if only those RUNNING rutabagas would fight.....COWARDS I say....or are they just exxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxtend in:D

now please enjoy the GAME
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: DrDea on December 06, 2002, 09:56:57 AM
If this game had no score the problem would be solved.Unfortunatly there are those that equate score with whatever they are lacking in.Maby there a die hard nobody in real life and this game makes them feel superior in the only way possable in there miserable little lives.I used to keep a high score and got nothing done but kills.That bored me so I started pounding mud in attack aircraft anf the ammount of munitions dropped led to a drop in score.It never bothered me cause it was still fun.You anal magnets and napolianic wannabees allways cry when the score goes to shat.I remember when I first started this game in Jan 2000 the Knits were the numbers.Yet there was never a winefest like this from the Bish.We were to busy flying to cry.Forget about the score for a campaign and see how fun it is.The only place you will find me now is H2H cause I dropped the account.The thrill is gone.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Rude on December 06, 2002, 10:40:30 AM
DrDea and Slo....Stop that this instant!!!!

You stick your heads in here and start making sense without a single thought for those who wallow in self pity....you should be ashamed!!!

Docktor Yo....please continue
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: DoctorYO on December 06, 2002, 11:15:14 AM
Now I have the floor again, Thank You Chairman Rude...

I will state the successful attack vs Rookland at 12:00 am eastern....  was unjustified score jackaling at its best...

The whole eastern side of the map was littered like a plague of locust some 80-100 vs 20....  There was no strategy, maybe cold war soviet strategy of mass over quality... but then again if you want to call that tactics with no attrition, I pity the fool...

Just like the good ole days about a month ago... when the save rookland was just getting popular....  yes we had the combined arms of Knits and Bishkits bashing the crap out of us yet once again....

See the reason i even started this thread was simple, a little bait but alot of relavance....  Note the only complainers were indeed bish mostly of leet type... as stated in the initial post...

I really would love to fly inferior aircraft in the main arena again, my 10-15 days last month was fun....  But now with the contest that is impossible....   You saps are going to force me to bring the smack down on you late war monster style and you will see that is not a good thing.

Its not so much a score thing for me.. while I try to survive every mission (not this tour feeling the new arena's waters, building perks) I look at this way; a plane in the air is able defender, you do your team no good if you are dead taking 5-10 minutes to get back to the combat area.

I remember the good ole days when I was Knit and there was good combat on that Ogre map with the high Mt. between countries... (need to bring that beta map back..)  There was no running away..  you fight your way over the mt back to your base.  Remember yeager Moss, Torque Rude's etc.....  Was that such a bad era...    When the mustang was unpopular And the UFO Nik was King.

Ah The good ole days....

See with the current unbalancing we lost our ability to choose.   We must fight on the defensive with exeption of 1-2 days a month while the other countries remain with dominate #'s the remainder.  

The only people who are blind to this are those who dont want the sweetheart deal fodder mongrel army to be vanquished.  It human nature to be greedy bastages; what im saying is evolve....


"I nominate this post for the whine of the month..."

Chairman Rude I relenquish the remainder of my time to the representitive of Knitland...


DoctorYo
Grandmaster...  Legend in his own Mind.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: gofaster on December 06, 2002, 12:52:45 PM
Quote

quote: Originally posted by gofaster
There's a Rook horde?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is if youre a kniggit or a Bish - see the pattern here?


I'm a Knight.  We lost our HQ to the Rookes last night.  Didn't see a Rooke horde.  No Borgian clouds moving through the skies.  The Rookes got our bases with less than 12 pilots per attack while most of the Knight forces were trying a break-out against the Bish.  If there was a Rooke horde, they must've been on the other front trying to equal out the numbers against the Bishops, too.  I ain't gonna cry about losing to them - they won it fair and square.

In fact, at one point the Bish had captured a Knight base in the Knight motherland and found themselves trying to fight off both the Rooke march and the Knight counter-attack - and the Bish numbers equalled the Rooke and Knight pilot numbers combined! :eek:

On the upside, last night was probably one of the few times I've felt justified in flying the Spitfire IX and P-51D instead of one of the disadvantaged planes like the FM2 and 190a8.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Rude on December 07, 2002, 08:40:39 AM
I did have more fun back in the beta map days....have patience boys..HT's drivin this bus.:)
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: Tyro48 on December 07, 2002, 03:29:56 PM
Shamus dont Bogart that .... the Doc here needs all he can get his hands on to stay in control !
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: blue308 on December 08, 2002, 08:21:24 AM
in my 7 month experience in AH i noticed that both rooks and knights get their fair share of lemmings as well. Flying for bish mostly, all the time i see ponys, p38s, tyffies climbing to 15k just point their nose down to the nmy field and crash while trying to deliver their load. I see La7s climbing to absurd alts just to go head-on with the first red icon they see. The only difference is numbers... but that has got nothing to do with pilot skills, imo. And with all the respect, bish launch lemming attacks with large numbers, while rooks and knights do just the same, only in a little wider time period. I love to get on a lemming path and pick JaBos to busy thinking bout the vulch thats 5 mins away, to even try to check 6 or evade. U get this kind of guys on all 3 sides.
Title: Cowardice Revisited......
Post by: vorticon on December 08, 2002, 09:46:53 AM
a good plane is one you fly best in
a good kill is ANY KILL
a good thing to do when someone you know you cant beat is coming after you is either run.
this is a GAME the only thing that matters is getting your kills and landing them. if you want to bomb and take bases well thats fine each to his own.
cowardice doesnt matter because to have cowardice and bad kills you have to have some form of observed honour and bravery system. of course bravery is really just idiocey.

in americas army the only way to win is to have some form of team work and collaboration because if you dont your gonna get squashed. no one man armies there. but in ah it seems that its more of a everyman for himself but only kill the other team kind of thing. the only places where you see teamwork is with squads and those occasional buff/c47 raids.

now to sit back and wait for the flames