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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Yeager on January 12, 2001, 10:00:00 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/01/12/mia.pilot/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/01/12/mia.pilot/index.html)
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This is nothing but a scam perpetrated by the pilots family (with some inside help no doubt) to dip their grasping little fingers into the public welfare trough.
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Blur could you be more unsympathetic? I would hope that if something ever happened to you in your workplace,that any and all avenues would be covered in order to help your family through the difficult times. These people lost a major source of income from a man who was serving his country. And to finish before I get off my soap box. If there is any and i mean any shred of evidence that his is or has been left there alive, any and all means should be exhausted to discover the whereabouts of him, dead or alive. And i would expect no less from this country.
Filadog Originally posted by blur:
This is nothing but a scam perpetrated by the pilots family (with some inside help no doubt) to dip their grasping little fingers into the public welfare trough.
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Yeager: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Off Topic.
Blur: You gotta be kidding.
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Gents,
I saw a detailed investigation into this on 60 minutes. Not only did he survive the crash, but without a reasonable doubt he was taken captive by Iraq. They found his ejection seat away from the plane and it had been used. UN forces went to investigate 4 years later and they found his uniform on top of the sand. In other words they kept him for 4 years and when it was intvestate they dumped his uniform in the desert. God only knows what happened to him.
[This message has been edited by F4UDOA (edited 01-12-2001).]
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Blur you must be running for the lead jerk in the bbs award. Unless you have something to substantiate your wild bellybutton claim, the least you could do is recognize that the family of that pilot are having a real tough time dealing with the loss. He answered his country's call and did his job. Now both he and his family are paying the price for it and all you can do is make snide innuendos' and defame them. That is a lot of class there you are showing and it's all very low.
Now exactly what trough are you feeding out of?
Mav
Originally posted by blur:
This is nothing but a scam perpetrated by the pilots family (with some inside help no doubt) to dip their grasping little fingers into the public welfare trough.
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Well I hope he is alive and can somehow make it back home.
BTW did I read correctly a monthly salary of $7000.00?
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A brave man deserving of respect. All the more so if he didn't make it.
$7000.00? As I recall, I got $124.00. Plus an extra $60.00 hazardous duty pay. Talk about being in the wrong war (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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I can believe the 7000.. in 94 when I got out of the army.. an O-1 wth no time in grade got somewhere in the ballpark of about 1800 and that was without dependents. Now we're talkin about a pilot who's most likely an O-3 or higher with many years in with dependents, hazardous duty pay, BAQ, VHA etc..
It's definitely a possibility.
Bane
13th TAS
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He certainly was not as lucky as THIS Navy pilot !
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum4/HTML/001201.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum4/HTML/001201.html)
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Originally posted by blur:
This is nothing but a scam perpetrated by the pilots family (with some inside help no doubt) to dip their grasping little fingers into the public welfare trough.
Wow what can anyone say to a comment like that. I know things like that have happened, but man! Why would anyone assume anything but the best about a family in their situation without any proof. You are a truly pessimistic individual. I wont say anything about the kind of character someone would have to have to seriously proclaim something like that in a public form. You leave your bellybutton hanging WAY out there!
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Originally posted by blur:
This is nothing but a scam perpetrated by the pilots family (with some inside help no doubt) to dip their grasping little fingers into the public welfare trough.
Hey Blur... Worcester is only 2 towns from Oxford. I would hate to run into your communist low-life slime-ball self in a dark alley out there.
If one thing you can show respect to in this country, it is war veterans. Without them, you and other low-lives would not be able to sling the crap you do everyday. Makes me sick to know you live without consequences for your traitorous remarks.
Midnight
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Blur,
I cannot believe that someone born in this great country could ever say something like what you did.
This man's job was to protect and defend the freedom this country has treasured for over 200 years, the same freedom which allows you to post on this board - the same freedom which allows us all to be secure with our lives, our jobs, our families...
Perhaps a lesson in US History would be a worthwhile endeavor for you so that you can fully appreciate the men and woman who have made the ultimate sacrifice to their country.
::spits in disgust::
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This really needs to be moved to the O'club.
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seems like its pretty generaly on the aviation/military topic to me god bless the guys soul what ever happened to him.
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Originally posted by blur:
This is nothing but a scam perpetrated by the pilots family (with some inside help no doubt) to dip their grasping little fingers into the public welfare trough.
Words escape me. That's about the most ignorant piece of garbage I've ever seen posted on this board.
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
This really needs to be moved to the O'club.
Yes it does.
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The man's job was to drop bombs and kill the people the US government says he should kill. If one is a little cynical, one would say that a fighter pilot is little more than a gadget pushing murderer/assassin hired by a government to do its dirty business.
Just had to say that to counter all the "for gof and country" stuff (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
Freedom is secondary or tertiary. Nice to be fighting for freedom, but that ain't his job.
Also, I would say that if I chose to fly a danish F-16 fighter and was accepted yadda yadda yadda, I'd fly for ME mostly, not for my country. i'd fly because it'd be the hottest ride in town, not because I am a great patriot.
I think the vast majority of fighter pilots elect to be fighter pilots because of the pucker factor, not the patriotism factor
Bah, patriotism is the last refuge of the scrouge (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
I find him being alive unlikely, especially as the Iraqis weren't that eager to hold on to prisoners of war. Even allowed McNab's SAS dudes to get away.
To me it seems like either a cruel trick played on the relatives of the pilots, or a last ditch effort from them to keep up some kind of hope.
At any rate, I don't think one can really justify calling him or his family *frauds* because of what the military decides to do.
Gotta respect him for having a dangerous job and doing the best he can, and his family for coping with it.
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
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"I am the light at the end of your sorry little tunnel." - A. Eldricht
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Ahhh Santa spoken by someone who has nevered served. That is not why people fight wars. You do not fight for yourself, you fight for your buddy. The fear of letting your friends down is sometimes overwhelming. I dont think, "Hey I am cool, this AWACS thing is super powerful". I think, "Please god dont let me screw up and get my buddies killed" The military will change you forever and for me it was in a wonderful way.
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Dnil---Skyhawk until I get Dnil back :)
Maj. 900th Bloody Jaguars
Part time aircraft restorer. www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer (http://www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer)
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stsanta, you have no clue as to what it means or takes to be a military officer. You have to think and believe commitment and follow through with it.
The attitude you just displayed with your post would be the thing that got you washed out of the program. Virtually nothing in the military is done on an individual basis. Your comment indicates a lack of ability to be a member of a team and that is certainly no way to act in the service.
Mav
[This message has been edited by Maverick (edited 01-13-2001).]
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It's cynics like StSanta that are the reason military members aren't allowed to take an active part in politics... SOMEONE has to be around to protect him and his oddball ideas. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Seriously, StSanta's idea about fighter pilot's motivation is a bunch of crap. He simply doesn't know what he's talking about. Walk a mile in my shoes...
As for Blur's noise, his post was amazingly crude and insulting. The facts show that his theory is roadkill, and I can't imagine the depths of hate he must be feeling towards someone to come up with such a thoughtless comment.
Check 6 blur, you made some enemies son...
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eagl <squealing Pigs> BYA
Oink Oink To War!!!