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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2002, 08:14:52 AM
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Edit, had to take this down due to some possible internal violations of staff informational securities. Basically, two Somolia women were attempting to flee a secured area of Harborview, in their hands were the blueprints for the ducts that feed fresh air into the hospital. The locks have all been changed to the access areas of the hospital .Apparently, the FBI has been called in to investigate. Should be interesting to see if anything becomes of this on the news.
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You guys here about the cruise ship passengers on a bunch of ships getting very ill with a mysterious virus?
I hope this isn't related.
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Originally posted by Curval
You guys here about the cruise ship passengers on a bunch of ships getting very ill with a mysterious virus?
Details?
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Originally posted by Curval
You guys here about the cruise ship passengers on a bunch of ships getting very ill with a mysterious virus?
I hope this isn't related.
Norwalk virus. Not really a mystery
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Norwalk virus. Not really a mystery
This is what is being said, but even after the ships have been totally sanitised people are still getting ill.
I'm starting to get suspicious about this so called "Norwalk Virus".
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Yeah, just more reasons why we here in Maine are delighted that the US Government is planting these Somalia Refugees in our cities. Now all the White Power folks are coming to town to rant and save us, meanwhile "Black Hawk down" is a very popular DVD rental. Oh, and many thanks to the various Catholic Leagues (and Im catholic) for just volunteering our area so more of these Somalia gangsters can move up here. Oh yay.
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Curval: This is what is being said, but even after the ships have been totally sanitised people are still getting ill.
They surely were not totally sanitised. Doing so reliably would cost more that building a brand new ship. Heating the whole ship to a high temperature in a huge oven or immersing it into a chemical compound in a huge bath would cost a fortune and then require major repair to the ship anyway.
miko
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It's the Norwalk virus, what's mysterious about it?
"Norwalk virus is an infection with an estimated 181,000 cases every year in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It's typically marked by vomiting and diarrhea. "
"Let's examine some of the ways that it's actually transmitted:
• Person to person. Confined environments like a cruise ship, like a nursing home, like schools -- these are some of the most common places you actually see this virus.
• Sharing food, water, utensils, eating.
• Drinking contaminated foods or beverages. "
Fantastic! Al-Quaeda doesn't want kill people anymore, just give them a case of the trots!
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Originally posted by Curval
You guys here about the cruise ship passengers on a bunch of ships getting very ill with a mysterious virus?
I hope this isn't related.
I've been suspecting that it is deliberate social sabotage since they announced that similar cases were being found on more than one ship, on more than one line.
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That hospital arrest is pretty scary.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&ncid=514&e=14&u=/ap/20021203/ap_on_re_us/sick_cruise
At first, I just figured that the cruise ship illnesses were simply due to sea sickness or something. But when it happened on the forth individual ship, it seemed odd. I bet they will eventually connect it to a common food supplier or something.
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Originally posted by gofaster
I've been suspecting that it is deliberate social sabotage since they announced that similar cases were being found on more than one ship, on more than one line.
Me too...but Thrwan doesn't seem at all concerned, so lets all just relax.:rolleyes: :p
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"Fantastic! Al-Quaeda doesn't want kill people anymore, just give them a case of the trots!"
Sounds like some one is testing their plan. When they are convinced that they can kill a lot of folks, then they will release something a little more toxic.
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Racists! Muslim racial/religious/profiling! Didnt anyone think they wanted to build hospitals is Somalia???? Maybe they were students of architecture at a local community college and just trying to escape the US government created opression in Somalia by coming the US? Why must you all assume it is terrorism related?
How did I do MT? :rolleyes:
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Hehe Grun!
(Traditional Muslim clothing I just found out too, so they, ummm, wouldn't stick out in a crowd...you'd know what I mean if you've ever been to our fine city up around the University place area)
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With that kind of attitude Grun, I won't be surprised when the Mullah of Cupertino moves into your home and makes you rock back and forth in front of the Koran.
:p
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
I bet they will eventually connect it to a common food supplier or something.
I bet you're right.
"Sounds like some one is testing their plan. When they are convinced that they can kill a lot of folks, then they will release something a little more toxic."
-Hey Abdul, I got an idea.
-What's that?
-Lets poison some people on ships.
-With what?
-Lets test it first by giving them something that causes them to toejam. Then use something more toxic.
-Won't that just make take percautions and be more wary?
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I guess we'll see when they are done the investigation.
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Originally posted by Curval
Me too...but Thrwan doesn't seem at all concerned, so lets all just relax.:rolleyes: :p
"The reality is that these cases are happening all the time," said Steve Williams, Carnival medical director. "It's when they get out of control that you have a problem."
"The Norwalk virus is one of the most common causes of gastrointestinal illness and tends to strike people in confined spaces, Forney said. "
"Similar outbreaks occurred earlier this year. In July, the Holland America ship Ryndam had Norwalk outbreaks on two successive Alaskan cruises; 395 passengers and crew got sick. The ship was taken out of service for a week for decontamination. "
I think that Thrwan guy might be on to something.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
With that kind of attitude Grun, I won't be surprised when the Mullah of Cupertino moves into your home and makes you rock back and forth in front of the Koran.
:p
And what makes you think I'm not allready? You racist infidel crusader! :D
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You racist infidel crusader!
Did someone call for me?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
[BI think that Thrwan guy might be on to something. [/B]
Thrawn,
You are probably right bud, but personally I have never, ever heard of this virus before...and yet it is so common? Also, if it was so common, particularly on cruise ships, why has it just appeared now, in such a rampant way?
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Thrawn and Canada in general may be victims of what we Americans were victims of before 9-11.... complacency and the firm belief that this world is a safe one.
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I think it was an act of terrorism...After fasting for a month,the Islamics couldn't take it anymore..People wining and dining and just plain having fun at all hours....So they poisened the food.
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Catching them could be a big break. Tying it to the source may require pulling a few fingernails, I got the pliers.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Catching them could be a big break. Tying it to the source may require pulling a few fingernails, I got the pliers.
Heads up Staff persons. They noticed "Islamic-dressed" women coming out of a secured area (Read "PROFILED!" into that, thank you) and when one of the staff asked what they were doing they ran for it. Security caught up to them outside the hospital by a few steps. Seattle Police made an arrest since A) They did not have access to that secured area of the building, and B) they posessed blueprints to the building.
Profiling: Its whats for dinner (and it works)
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I'm thinking theft first, and Al-Q organized terrorism a very distant second.
Hospitals are full of things that can be sold for lots of money once stolen.
As for the terrorism angle:
* Al-Q is usually pretty wise in terms of target selection. Heavily damaging 1 hospital in Seattle isn't going to get them world stopping media coverage or damage the U.S. to the extent that it's worth losing an active cell over.
* Hospitals are a very poor choice for a bio/chem attack. Lots of medical personnel right there, hospitals have more sophisticated/controllable ventilation than your average office building.
* Hospitals are a poor choice for any attack - generally alert security on-site, almost instant comms with all possible responding security agencies, good surveillance on-site.
* Al-Q teaches very cautious target recon - an example of this might still be found by looking at the (sanitized) Al-Q training manual pages the DOJ has on the web. The (sanitized) version still has a couple of pages specifically dealing with target recon and keeping a low profile. Sending 2 women into a hospital for 'blueprints' when the same blueprints could most likely be accquired from a less secure location, possibly thru bribery - not characteristic of Al-Q trained domestic operators.
* Culturally, Al-Q leadership is predominantly Arab. First tier cells have almost no history of using females for anything operational (target recon is operational, running the books for a fund raising operation isn't) due to Arab attitudes towards women vs. men and responsibility, etc.
My bet is an attempt to find how to gain access to prescription drugs with a high resale value. Some might say that this is an attempt to generate funds for Al-Q but their fund raising is usually way more sophisticated with a much better 'risk vs. reward' ratio.
My $.02.
Mike/wulfie
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I am tired of this crap. Time to play Cowboys and Muslims.