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Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: funkedup on December 06, 2002, 08:46:15 AM
How do you like your steak?

I'm a big Medium fan myself.

Well Doners are rutabagas with no taste buds.

Rare enthusiasts are psychotic blood crazed sushi lovers.
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2002, 08:49:15 AM
"Pink" inside.  I guess thats Medium Rare.

Lots of crumpled Blue cheese and if its a tenderloin, bacon wrap that bad dude.
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: capt. apathy on December 06, 2002, 08:52:27 AM
on the rare side of medium rare.
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Post by: JimBear on December 06, 2002, 08:54:22 AM
Rare,  just --> this side of Moo
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Post by: Eagler on December 06, 2002, 08:54:28 AM
1.5" to 2" cut

5 min sear on each side at max high/direct, then 5 min on each side medium/indirect on a Genesis Silver B
(http://www.weber.com/photo/2281001.jpg)
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2002, 08:58:21 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
1.5" to 2" cut

5 min sear on each side at max high/direct, then 5 min on each side medium/indirect on a Genesis Silver B
(http://www.weber.com/photo/2281001.jpg)


It ain't a good steak til its grilled with a CHARCOAL BBQ. ;)
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Post by: straffo on December 06, 2002, 09:03:06 AM
I bet that if I answer that I prefer my steak "bleu" (blue) I will look strange :D

bleu = about 30 sec on each side
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Post by: Swoop on December 06, 2002, 09:06:12 AM
Burnt to a crisp with more charcoal covering the steak than there is left in the BBQ.


And I know what you mean by blue Straffo....my Dad likes his steak that way as well.

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Post by: midnight Target on December 06, 2002, 09:11:41 AM
2"  thick Porterhouse

Cast iron grilling pan (white hot)

Kosher salt and fresh pepper rub

Sear that puppy 5 minutes on a side, then stick it in the oven for about 5 more.

maybe make a red wine reduction sauce with the pan drippings.

let it rest then eat it slowly.

Im drooling.... gotta go
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Post by: -Concho- on December 06, 2002, 09:15:36 AM
How can you guys eat meat!?  (thats not cooked outside)
 
Med to Med Rare here, smeared with creamed horseraddish
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Post by: Modas on December 06, 2002, 09:17:54 AM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target


Im drooling.... gotta go


LOL!! :D  


haaaaaaaaaaaarck!!!!!  (don't know how to spell that sound)
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: Kisters on December 06, 2002, 09:19:53 AM

LOL steak dweebs, do yourselves a favour and come to Argentina.
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Post by: midnight Target on December 06, 2002, 09:21:22 AM
One of my favorite things about West Texas. On the menu of many resaurants is...

"Beef"

Just Beef. No fancy names. Just good eating.

(I saw this in Amarillo).
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2002, 09:22:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kisters

LOL steak dweebs, do yourselves a favour and come to Argentina.


I *used* to think the best steaks came from Nebraska, that is...until I had a KC strip.  No contest.
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Post by: Sox62 on December 06, 2002, 09:29:08 AM
A steak should "moo" when you stick your fork into it. ;)
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Post by: SOB on December 06, 2002, 09:36:13 AM
T-Bone, medium well, huge.  Anyone live in Wenatchee, WA...one of the best steaks I've had was at a little dive there name the Windmill.  mmmm...I think I'm picking up a monstrous t-bone tonight!


SOB
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: SLO on December 06, 2002, 09:37:02 AM
hmmm.....i like mine cooked well done..thx you very much.:D


now where's my steak......well....where is it...come on come on....no service here.

HT you suck a servin steaks:eek:
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Post by: mason22 on December 06, 2002, 09:51:19 AM
after working in a steakhouse for 7 years:

Well Done - Grey all the way through

Medium Well - Grey with a slight pink center (a.k.a - thin line of pink)

Medium - pink all the way through (some might have a slight red tint)

Medium Rare - Warm red center (pink on the edges)

Rare - cool red center (not cold, just cool as in not warm/hot in the very center)

of course it all boils down to how thick the steak is too. Thin steaks are for rutabagas, oh...and well doners.....ICK.

i'm a medium to medium rare guy myself. depending on the cut of meat.
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Post by: Thrawn on December 06, 2002, 09:53:46 AM
With American food safety laws regarding the raising and slaughtering beef, you like your stake with feces.  Thanks for coming out.  :D
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Post by: SOB on December 06, 2002, 09:57:48 AM
Oh yeah....

I'll take a bloomin' onion
the house salad with tangy tomato, with bacon
the big Victoria's filet, medium well with jacket potato - loaded with extra bacon
and a jack and coke...don't make yourself a stranger

now snap to it Mason!


SOB
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: H. Godwineson on December 06, 2002, 10:09:12 AM
Buy some Dale's Quick Marinade.  Immerse a well-marbled, 16 to 20oz. porterhouse steak in it for twenty minutes.  Gather your favorite seasonings;  mine are Cajun, Creole, and Cavender's Greek.  

A real steak deserves a real fire.  Use charcoal, preferably with mesquite in it, or else use blocks of hickory soaked overnight in a bucket.  Throw the hickory blocks on the fire when the coals are white and glowing, no flame showing.  

Holding the marinated porterhouse with a pair of tongs, show each side briefly to the fire.  Enjoy with your favorite beverage.

Real men eat their steak rare.

Regards, Shuckins
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: miko2d on December 06, 2002, 10:09:49 AM
The only steak I would eat by choice is rare - seared outside and cool and bright red inside.

 Also the meat should preferabely be aged - stored hanging at just a bit cooler than a room temperature for tree weeks to allow natural enzimes to break the cell membranes and allow exess water to evaporate. Makes it melt in your mouth. Just like in the best steak houses, New York Peter Luger being the top.
 Aged meat is readily available in New york but the kind of oven they use in good steakhouses is not something we can have, so the results will still vary.

 No argument is has to be a good meat to be enjoyed rare - the tasteless stuff requires burning, salting and seasoning beyong recongition to be palatable.

 Have you guys ever tried Steak Tartare? It's basically a fine meat ground kind like a hamburger and mixed with a bit of seasoning - mustard, worchesterchire, onion, capers, sometimes egg-yolk. It's absolutely great - the fine meat really has a very good taste.

 Oh, heck, I am drooling so hard...

 Oh, by since we are talking about great-tasting food that does not require burning - how about sashimi and oysters?

 Of course many people who've burned their taste and smell receptors with hot seasonings can only tell "hot" and "salty", so they may as well not bother with those dishes as they will never be able to tell the difference anyway worthy the extra cost.

 For those whose taste and smell is not yet maimed, it takes a bit of practice to start appreciating the nuances - and discover them - in fine foods. Just like shooting - you start with general idea and no appreciation and then find out the groups could be narrowed incredibly with practice.

 miko
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Post by: H. Godwineson on December 06, 2002, 10:24:30 AM
The best venison is aged venison...but I don't have the time or a place to do it.  Great stuff!

Shuckins
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: Ozark on December 06, 2002, 10:27:07 AM
Saw off the horns, wipe it’s butt and put it on a plate.
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: midnight Target on December 06, 2002, 10:33:01 AM
Miko and I agree on something!

Almost nothing better than sucking down a raw oyster.......mmmmmmmmmmm
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Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2002, 10:35:58 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ozark
Saw off the horns, wipe it’s butt and put it on a plate.


ROTFLOL!  I just told this thread and response to a co-worker, now HE can't stop laughing either!
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: Mathman on December 06, 2002, 10:56:23 AM
Steak:  Medium Rare

Prime Rib: RARE - anything else is a waste of a good cut of meat
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Post by: Rude on December 06, 2002, 11:04:31 AM
This is what I do my cookin on...thanks to the Aussies:)

Sear the steak 60 seconds both sides...cook on the grill till pleasing to the eye...remove from grill and place on the rack, shut the lid and that baby melts in your mouth.

Too many tasty ways to prep a cut of beef prior to cooking to go into here.

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Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: Rude on December 06, 2002, 11:15:35 AM
and for smokin, this is the beast....


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Grilling Grate Removes for Easy Fueling and Grilling Directly Over The Fire
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Air Vents Across the Front for Excellent Heat Control
Heavy One Piece Fire Grate
Ash Pan for Easy Ash Removal
Air Return Vent Pulls Hot Air Down to the Bottom of the Smoker and Returns the Cooler Air to the Fire Box (Convection Heating)
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Post by: Makarov9 on December 06, 2002, 11:22:05 AM
Yep that seals it...I'm going grab two thick ones after work.
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Post by: Skuzzy on December 06, 2002, 11:23:10 AM
Welp,..medium rare here,..but it really depends on the cut and how think the meat is.

I noted a couple of guys talkin about thin cuts being for doners.  Try this for that thin cut;

Pound it as thin as possible
Put the meat in a smoker for 24 hours or so, make sure to keep the chips moist.
Remove, cut into strips about 3 inches wide
Roll the strips around a mix of bleu and monterrey jack cheese.
Roll in a good batter mix (none of this store bought garbage either)
then deep fry to taste.

Yummy
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: funkedup on December 06, 2002, 11:25:57 AM
I should get some kind of saliva production award for this thread.  Reading these responses made me drool big time.  
Fire + Dead Cow = Yum

PS I gotta put a plug in for smoked brisket which is pretty much all I eat when I'm in Texas.
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: SaburoS on December 06, 2002, 11:59:52 AM
Ribeye. Medium rare.

Best steak I've had yet was at the Whaling Station in Monterey, Ca.

Gee, I wonder why I am craving a steak for lunch? ;)
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: jonnyb on December 06, 2002, 12:01:30 PM
All steak must be eaten rare, or raw.

Get a fine cut of meat (filet is perfect for this) and shave it very thinly.  Dice some tomatoes and add minced garlic, chopped onion and a bit of thyme.  Bake some garlic bread until it is about the same texture as a crouton.  Take a crouton, add some of the thinly sliced steak (which is raw), top with the tomato-onion paste and a little mustard or horseradish sauce.  Makes a great appetizer.

When I cook a filet, there are very few, if any, seasonings on it.  Sear it over extremely high heat for no more than 60 seconds.  Have a platter heating in the oven so that it is about 400 degrees.  Pull the platter out of the oven and put about an eigth of a stick of butter on it.  Place your filet on top and serve.

For a good sirloin, season it with a nice rubbing of fresh cracked black pepper and kosher salt.  Add a bit of garlic to taste.

Another good sirloin recipe is to take some brown sugar, molasses, touch of vanilla and some of your favorite bourbon (Basil Hayden works well...or Jack Daniels).  Mix the sauce up and marinate your steak in it for at least 4 hours.  Overnight works best.  Grill that baby over an open fire (mesquite adds a very nice touch).

For a strip, get nothing less than an aged KC.  Nebraska beef is good, but KC is in a class by itself.  Like a filet, this steak can be eaten with little to no seasoning.  Maybe a red wine reduction sauce, or a touch of cracked pepper.
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: H. Godwineson on December 06, 2002, 12:07:32 PM
Sounds like we're all a bunch of predatory barbarians.  I wonder when the PC police will show up?

Shuckins
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: funkedup on December 06, 2002, 12:09:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by H. Godwineson
I wonder when the PC police will show up?

Shuckins


They are (with good cause) afraid we will eat them.
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Post by: midnight Target on December 06, 2002, 12:20:48 PM
I gotta go with McKlintocks Saloon in Shell Beach, Ca.

I wonder if it's still there?
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Post by: Apache on December 06, 2002, 12:33:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by H. Godwineson
Sounds like we're all a bunch of predatory barbarians.  I wonder when the PC police will show up?

Shuckins


I'm a member of P.E.T.A. Some of these posts are revolting!!
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: Skuzzy on December 06, 2002, 12:41:45 PM
Persons Engaged To Animals?
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Post by: funkedup on December 06, 2002, 12:45:23 PM
Please Eat The Animals
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Post by: Apache on December 06, 2002, 12:45:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Persons Engaged To Animals?


Nope. People who Eat Tasty Animals.

To think some would cook perfectly good beef in anything other than a charcoal grill is...is, heart wrenching.
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Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2002, 12:46:50 PM
Best meal for me:

KC Strip warped in Pepper bacon (thick sliced) medium rare to medium.  Unwarp crisp bacon and serve on the side with chunks of Blue cheese, eat the aforementioned with a savory bite of  meat.  Serve with a Baked potato with "the works" on it.  Drink of choice when enjoying this would be a Hales Pale Ale or a good Merlot wine.  Matter of fact, thats what we're having tonight! (Just got off the phone with the wife. :D  We'll have to subsitute the "KC Strip" with local beef however :(  )
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Post by: Gunthr on December 06, 2002, 01:03:34 PM
I'm on the Atkins diet...  I'm now over-satiated and repulsed by those heavy slabs of flesh with the gobbets of yellow fat clinging to them.

Give me just a simple bowl of oatmeal with a little brown suger and I'll be groovin'  :p
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Post by: -dead- on December 06, 2002, 01:33:40 PM
I'll have the Creutzfeldt-Jacob special with extra steroids, please.  :)
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Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2002, 01:41:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by -dead-
I'll have the Creutzfeldt-Jacob special with extra steroids, please.  :)


(Sniff) Do you guys smell rice in this thread? ;)  Get him a steak, quick! ;)
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Post by: mrfish on December 06, 2002, 01:46:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
1.5" to 2" cut

5 min sear on each side at max high/direct, then 5 min on each side medium/indirect on a Genesis Silver B
(http://www.weber.com/photo/2281001.jpg)


hey eagler, where does the charcoal go in that grill? it looks broke ;)
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Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2002, 01:48:33 PM
It IS broke mrfish.  A hot charcoal fire IS 50% of the flavor of a good steak. ;)  Thats why studies show that more people with gas grills use a sauce on their steaks than those with charcoal. ;)
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: -dead- on December 06, 2002, 01:50:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
(Sniff) Do you guys smell rice in this thread? ;)  Get him a steak, quick! ;)

Lol! - I'm in Hong Kong - We eat stuff you wouldn't even eat on a dare! They say we'll eat anything with legs except for the table: chicken's feet, frog, snake sea cucumber, etc, etc.
It's even madder on the mainland - dog, cat, (damn Brits made those illegal in HK) scorpion, even fetus soup... ewwwwwwwwwwwww.
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Post by: miko2d on December 06, 2002, 01:52:04 PM
Gas grill!? For steak!!?
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Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2002, 02:02:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by -dead-
Lol! - I'm in Hong Kong - We eat stuff you wouldn't even eat on a dare! They say we'll eat anything with legs except for the table: chicken's feet, frog, snake sea cucumber, etc, etc.
It's even madder on the mainland - dog, cat, (damn Brits made those illegal in HK) scorpion, even fetus soup... ewwwwwwwwwwwww.


Good point!
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Post by: nuchpatrick on December 06, 2002, 02:03:03 PM
Well.. this is a product I sell. More Commerical High Dollar out door grill..made of all Stainless Steel. Weights 105 lbs easly move able by one person and fits in the back of a pickup or ontop of and SUV....  It's made in Lancaster UK, and sold here in the US :)  Called: Cinders Barbecues
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Post by: whgates3 on December 06, 2002, 02:21:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by -dead-
I'll have the Creutzfeldt-Jacob special with extra steroids, please.  :)


hold the antibiotic resistant E. Coli
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Post by: straffo on December 06, 2002, 02:28:14 PM
I rule you all :)


=> Entrecote Bleue (aka rare ;))  Sauce Roquefort  with Aligot


btw I agree with Kisters if you love steak go to Argentina it's the best place in the world for beef.
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Post by: Saintaw on December 06, 2002, 02:36:10 PM
blue (olnly slightly heated will do).

Best steak I had was in Louisville KY.
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Post by: Ozark on December 06, 2002, 02:42:53 PM
BBQ at my place this spring.
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Post by: mrfish on December 06, 2002, 02:54:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by -dead-
Lol! - I'm in Hong Kong - We eat stuff you wouldn't even eat on a dare! They say we'll eat anything with legs except for the table: chicken's feet, frog, snake sea cucumber, etc, etc.
It's even madder on the mainland - dog, cat, (damn Brits made those illegal in HK) scorpion, even fetus soup... ewwwwwwwwwwwww.


dude the best steak i ever had in my life was in hong kong - in kowloon actually- and i'm from oklahoma! you order the steak and they bring you two steaks and a big ol plate of fries.

(and yes, it was a steak)
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Post by: flakbait on December 06, 2002, 02:57:42 PM
Flakbait's BBQ:

Meat prep: Mix half a bottle of liquid smoke with cayenne pepper (to personal prefs) and really rub it in. Add a dash of salt if you want. Tenderize the cuts in this stuff with your fingers for about 5 minutes.

The sauce (I don't measure this stuff, just eyeball it):

1 bottle hickory smoke BBQ sauce (KC masterpiece tastes the best)
1 small bottle red tabasco sauce
1/2 small bottle Worchestershire sauce


I burned my friend's tongue off with this stuff once! Then again he came back for seconds ;)


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Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: Leslie on December 06, 2002, 02:59:05 PM
Used to enjoy a good Rib Eye steak, medium well.  This was our standard hunting camp evening meal, served up with Asparagus and rice.  Always grilled up Conecha saugages first as an appetizer.  For dessert we had Pecan pie or German chocolate cake.  Beverages were Crown Royal and Sprite.  Eventually had to go easy on this, because it aggravated the gout.


Nowadays, I prefer my steak in the form of Shish-ka-bob (London Broil or Top Sirloin), marinated overnight in Worschester Sauce, and served with grilled bell peppers and onions.


Les
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Post by: Curval on December 06, 2002, 03:01:43 PM
I like mine Medium...must be pink in the middle or a steak loses all its flavour.

Best steak for me was at the Atlanta Ritz Carlton, quite recently.
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Post by: johnathanh18 on December 06, 2002, 03:06:18 PM
I prefere medium rare myself

ComradII
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Post by: funkedup on December 06, 2002, 03:19:47 PM
The best steaks are made at two places:
The Dubalow, Iowa City, IA
The Room, Pacific Beach, CA
These are private clubs.  :)
Title: Controversial Debate
Post by: mietla on December 06, 2002, 04:52:43 PM
I wonder how Boroda cooks his steak?
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Post by: Ozark on December 06, 2002, 05:32:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mietla
I wonder how Boroda cooks his steak?


Like I do! What else?
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Post by: mietla on December 06, 2002, 05:36:26 PM
More precisely... Hey Boroda did you see a steak? :)
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Post by: JB73 on December 06, 2002, 05:45:05 PM
i AIN't reading this whole post but ...

med RARE .. i like my meat kicking a bit. nise and red inside fading to pink/red on edge...


the best thing to cook a steak in is...THIS (http://biggreenegg.com/home.shtml)

goto about 650°-700° and cook each side about 3-4 min

best i ever had!!!!!!
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Post by: Ozark on December 06, 2002, 05:45:41 PM
Guess I'll start naming my backyard buddies.

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