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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Halo on December 08, 2002, 04:47:23 PM
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How many people play Aces High for scores, and how many could care less about scores, just playing for the fun of each engagement?
Just curious. Obviously most games are set up under the assumption that most or many players keep score. Do you keep score? Would you play Aces High if there was no score keeping at all?
Assuming about 4,000 customers playing Aces High, and only the top hundred making most lists, do you think the other 3,900 are trying for scores or just having fun no matter what their scores?
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Couldnt care less about score, dont even look at my rank.
I play for fun.
dago
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Originally posted by Halo
Assuming about 4,000 customers playing Aces High, and only the top hundred making most lists, do you think the other 3,900 are trying for scores or just having fun no matter what their scores?
Yes. :D
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LoL i tried playing for score, but failed miserably...
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i don't play for rank/score per se, but i'll game the stats to get a high ranking to rub my almost never land ethos in the true rank-weenies hugackrunaltmonkeygangertimid freak faces. i'm sure it burns 'em to see me ranked up there in the top 100 or so. at least i hope it does. :D
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lol i never play for score on MA
ramzey:cool:
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0 Point in playing for rank or score in the MA. If you don't enjoy one of the catogories of aircraft/vehicles and don't spend any time in them you're penalized for it under the current scoring scheme. IMHO there are only two catagories of scoring that have any meaning - hit percentage and kills/damage per sortie. And the only value in those two catagories is in the ability it gives you to measure your own progress.
My $0.02:D
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I do both.
I like to set myself a goal at the beginning of a tour. Might be to get the highest possible k/d in a particular aircraft. Might be to learn a new type. Might be to try and get the highest possible rank. Keeps me occupied and interested.
Getting the #1 rank was the least pleasurable month of AH I have had. Boring Boring Boring. Never again.
Flying for the top 15 this month I haven't changed the way I fly too much. Just flying lots of late war cannon rides to stay out of trouble and get lots of kills. I have had to game the Buff scores. Next month I'll fly them properly I promise.
Next month back to the C.205 I think. Maybe the FW190A5/8
Gatso
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The answer is obvious, no one flys for score as you can see.
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I used to work at it fairly seriously (before the CT came about). I certainly wouldn't do everything for score, but most of the time it was at least in the back of my mind. In spite of what many may say about playing for score, it CAN be fun.. for some people. It's funny that since so many figure that playing for score is not for them, it can't possibly be any fun for anyone else.
I'm clearly no where near the best in here, so that made it a real challenge. When players like Fariz, Ypsilon, AKLarry/AKNimitz, Mitsu, winqck, Citabria/Fester, GTR, Booky, Bradys5, Khan, CUCKOO, dzd, AGJV44 (& the list goes on) make/made an even half-hearted effort, it CAN (or could) be quite a challenge to rank amongst them. Playing for score also CAN make you a better pilot.
After awile, I realized that you can rank very high by just doing a few things. Fly ANY way that you want, but make sure that you have no 0's in your score page, and you will do well. This mode only takes about 5% of your tour time. (Make sure that you have at least 1 capture, PT rocket or torp hit, etc.) When the map is slow, and there's just not much to do, I look for these kinds of opportunities, I like doing a bit of everything anyway.
The next "level" of devotion is to make an effort to improve only the areas that you suck (by rank) at. Sometimes again, I still do this.
Overall, I'd say I still spend 5 to 10 percent of my online time intentionally making an effort to improve my score (combined in the CT and MA). Other than that, I have no worries about de-acking a base, or straffing GVs, even in fighter mode. If I think that I stand a chance of getting a kill or two, I'll usually attack a greater number of enemy, if I'm in a twisty plane, I'll enter a fight low. I do what's fun, every now and then that includes a score mission.
Besides, I love statistics and charts!
eskimo
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There is a score ?
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Originally posted by Halo
How many people play Aces High for scores, and how many could care less about scores, just playing for the fun of each engagement?
Just curious. Obviously most games are set up under the assumption that most or many players keep score. Do you keep score? Would you play Aces High if there was no score keeping at all?
Assuming about 4,000 customers playing Aces High, and only the top hundred making most lists, do you think the other 3,900 are trying for scores or just having fun no matter what their scores?
To answer the rest of your question, I think that most players do at least partially play for score. But, most will never admit it because its so uncool to play for score.
Would I play AH if there was no score? Certainly, but I may be the exception. I'm a junkie, been here since Beta 1, Day 1, and have seriously enjoyed over 99% of my time online.
I do think that the game would fizzle without score and rank however. Ever played a sport where no one keeps score? Well it typically sucks, is less than intense and ends early.
The more reasons you have for players to play, the more and the better people will play.
eskimo
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I play for fighter score, usually. I hadn't tried to get my 'overall' score up at all, at least not since I tried really hard one month and finished 10th.
Right now I'm trying for the top 15, so I am playing for 'overall' score. Or rather, I'm doing bombing and GV stuff that I haven't done in months. It CAN be fun- but I'm getting irritated a whole lot faster than usual, because it 'counts'.
I'm at the point now where I've gotten into the top 15, so I'm just 'coasting' for the rest of this month. I'll be checking my score every couple days to see if I'm slipping in the ranks, then I'll get on and do what I have to do to get it back up.
Honestly, the only rank that I think matters is the fighter rank, but that is just because that is what I like, so I look up to people that do it well. It is also the only rank thats just about impossible to 'game'.. you are either good or you aren't. You can't 'pretend' like you can in the other categories. Case in point, I think I'm ranked like 5th or something absurdly low in GVs. Thats because I had 2 good sorties in a Flakpansie- I'm nobody to fear in a tank.
Whereas typically, if someone has a decent fighter rank they'll now how to fight. There are exceptions, but there aren't to many of them, really.
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I use to play for overall score but grew tired of that after the 1.10 version changes.
I then use to play for just Fighter score and K/D and still do to an extent though tend to now be more aggresive and play for good engagements and helping out where I can as much as possible..
I really don't get to spend enough time online now to warrent any attempt at achieving a high score though do focus more on fighter then anything.
...-Gixer
The Horse Soldiers
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Hmmmm.....depends on what sort of mood i'm in. Sometimes i'll try my hardest to get as many kills as i can without dying, othertimes i'll grab a plane and go GV hunting or hit the fuel at a base in a tiffie or somehting along the lines of ground attack.
Today I tried to see how well i could do in a Seafire and was trying to get lots of kills to get a good K/D in the fighter category. However a few days ago i was flying the Hurri I and furballed right next to my base to see how well i could do.
Spending only 3hrs and 25 mins in fighters i've mangaged to get my fighter rank to 16 :) and that's with 2/5 of my fighter kills being in a Hurri I. Ooooo...i'm starting to sound like Widewing.:D
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What little time I play MA...
I find a field being vulched, usually hop in my favorite plane (P-40B), and see if I can get off the ground and fight. If I die everytime without even getting to fire back, I may switch to an A6M5, a Spitfire MkIX, or a P-38. If I still keep dying, I may switch to another field and take off in a P-38 to come back to the vulched field.
If I can't find a field being vulched... I look for the biggest red bar that is reasonably close to one of my fields.
Obviously, I don't score well by playing this way, nor am I much of a team player... I just come in to get some quick adrenaline hits by flying solo against really bad odds.
Sometimes, I at best delay a field capture. On a good day, the vulchers run out of fuel and ammo (after killing me a million times on the runway), so I finally get off the ground, chase them home, and the base survives intact.
My absolute favorite is going into a mess of Spits and N1Ks all alone with a P-40B and getting a kill or two before finally succumbing to superior aircraft and pilots :)
Score? What's that? I pay to have fun, so that's what I do.
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The only stat I really worry about is my K/D in the P51 aircraft. I do like to use all aspects of the game though so that usually lends itself to a reasonable rank. This month I am being more careful to get a top 15 spot but I haven't really changed the way I fly, I'm just concentrating on my SA more.
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
The only stat I really worry about is my K/D in the P51 aircraft. I do like to use all aspects of the game though so that usually lends itself to a reasonable rank. This month I am being more careful to get a top 15 spot but I haven't really changed the way I fly, I'm just concentrating on my SA more.
lol, we're almost diamterically opposed in fighting styles.
check our respective stats and ranks, and you can see that k/d is over-rated as a stat as a measure of a player.
i'm just doing the usual kill everything and die thing i do with a little goofing around in buffs and gv's to game the stats. not really trying for the top 15, but if i end up in there, hopefully it'll annoy someone who tried hard.
:D
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Last tour I played for K/D ratio - had it as high as 17 for a period, but ended up with around a 9.1K/D+1 by the end of the tour I think with about 3 kills per sortie.
It was "gratifying" but not fun. This tour Im a furballin' spit dweeb. :D
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Originally posted by Shane
lol, we're almost diamterically opposed in fighting styles.
check our respective stats and ranks, and you can see that k/d is over-rated as a stat as a measure of a player.
I don't really think k/d is an accurate yard stick either, after all, anyone can cherry pick and get a good k/d. I just have set it as a goal to keep the highest k/d possible (I really want to go a tour without any deaths in the pony, oh well, maybe next month). I realise that having to fly back to a base and land hurts k/t (and hence rank), but I don't really care that much. :) I have kept a good k/d this tour (so far) but it has been more luck than good management most of the time, somehow the guys chasing me always seem to turn back about 10 seconds before my fuel runs out. :D
And, as always, I can still be found at the bottom of a furball dragging 6 cons yelling for my squaddies to clear my 6, it's just that I'm trying to avoid that situation more this tour. :)
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I played for score this tour (the first week) but not for rank. I tried to survive (in a fighter) as long as i could. Managed to get 35 kills and only one ditch as an osti pinged and killed me.
This kind of game play decreases ur overall rank (even though i've had a K/D of 35) cause u have to fly very very defensive not to say overcautious and for this reason have a Kill/hour thats horrible. If ur and outstanding pilot like Fester u wont have these problems.
Now I fly for fun mostly but sure I try to survive and also try to improve my score cause thats the way I like to fly - to survive and not to die.
The problem is i would engage much more cons if I only knew I would stay 1 vs. 1 or 1 vs. 2 but it's so often u engage a con and have a good fight for 1 min. unless 3 or 5 of his friends show up and kill u. I really dont like this behaviour and therefore i sometimes prefer to run away and let me call a coward instead of giving the gangbanges an easy kill.
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Originally posted by Duedel
I really dont like this behaviour and therefore i sometimes prefer to run away and let me call a coward instead of giving the gangbanges an easy kill.
Im namen des Vaters, des Sohnes und des heiligen Geistes,
AMEN
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I play to impress the sheep.
Ack-Ack
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i usually enjoy playing all categorys of the game, so i've been in the top 100 the last 4-5 tours, but i dont have good rank as a target...it just comes.
This tour, ill try to get in top 15 but im not gonna let it ruin my game by doing booring stuff. If i make it im happy, if i dont ill still get my sleep at night :D
Rank in it self has no value.....ohh except the cash this time. :D
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have never actually looked at mine or anyone elses "score" but i do look at the other stats. Like most... I chuckle when someone brags about his "score".
lazs
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I believe there to be two distinctly different games within AH...one is played by the scoreboard, the other by the seat of your pants.
I used to play, not to the scoreboard as much as to a specific style of flying...I enjoy relaxing and staying hot while killin folks and landing those kills...Lazs calls it sky accounting:)
The last two camps I've been seat of the pants...it has definetly hurt the scoring aspect of things, however, my skills have sharpened considerably in the yank and bank world.
Which is the best or correct way to play? I would say the style that makes ya happy.
One thing for certain, since I've been turn fighting, I've lost my groove when it comes to 400mph snap shots....still, I'm having fun playing and that's what it's about for me.
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We changed our squad name to 3./JG2 Score potatos.
But thats misleading. We like to kill stuff without dieing. Some in the squad like to kill lotsa of stuff. They kill um a2a sitting on the runway, afk it dont matter.
Ag landed 40 kills in 2 sorties and that was right after a 10 kill vulchfest. There was 5 of us on and we landed near 80 kills in that same time. All in, probrably, less then 2 hours.
We dont fly to spend 3 hours blowing up ground structures in endless waves of suicide.
Flying as rook you either are gangbanged, gangbanging or bored. Thats just how it is. We dont like being bored and we sure aint up to be gangbanged.
Furballs always end up with suicide bishnits flying in 1 at time picking off the fuel at our base until the furball ends up a base rape. So they are few and fleating when they do happen.
Does score matter? I guess but if score only went by k/d we wouldnt care. That would be boring as hell with a sky full of timid aerial straffers and runners.
The score system now is about killing, killing fast and killing alot while in every type vehicle. If you think thats dweeby well just carry on with your 50 man "mission/gangbanngs" and suicide raids.
We also have other guys in the squad that just fly a few types of planes and have fun just doing sweeps with the rest of the guys. That hate getttin killed but dont we all..............
"Wulch, Wulch"
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I think scoring is important in any game, therefore I pay attention to them. But, there is always a danger for any player to go overboard and allow the score to be the only thing for example score potatos.
I don't let scores determine the way I fly, so I will help others out, and I won't usually fly in front of another simply to get a kill (unless it's done to me, but thats another competition :)
There's so much to learn in AH, so a score is a momentary thing; you fly the next hop and get wiped and wind up sitting in HQ wondering what happened.
The fun for me is the competition. The perkies come in handy too, so I can fly those exotic and expensive hi perked planes to see what the hubbub is all about:)
Still, everybody flies for his/her own reasons.
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The only score I care about is the number of Dago's kills I can steal.
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Originally posted by Halo
How many people play Aces High for scores, and how many could care less about scores, just playing for the fun of each engagement?
I attempt to play the game as designed (without the dweeby short cuts) and to have fun in each sortie whatever I am doing. Believe it or not, these are not mutually exclusive objectives.
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Playing AH for fun not for score. And trying desperately to fly to live when online - failing to do so most of the time (but that is something completely different).
And hardly fly anything else than fighters....
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Originally posted by Rude
One thing for certain, since I've been turn fighting, I've lost my groove when it comes to 400mph snap shots....still, I'm having fun playing and that's what it's about for me.
Zeke dweeb! :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
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I fly for my squad,,,
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Zeke dweeb! :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
and not a good zeke dweeb at that:)
I got a boat load of good shots last night, missed everyone of them....plus I'm gettin old and can't see and I have four kids tuggin at my pantlegs as well as the two cats...oh...don't forget the dog, plus the phone was ringin...I haven't been sleepin too good lately and I was hungry...you know how it is when ya get hungry...then I was bla bla bla.
You get my point:)