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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Thrawn on December 09, 2002, 08:09:52 PM
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"Cauchon says pot could be decriminalized soon
CTV News Staff
Justice Minister Martin Cauchon said Monday he wants to take steps to decriminalize marijuana within the next four months.
A Commons committee is due to release a report on Thursday calling for the government to relax current marijuana laws and possibly even allow Canadians to grow marijuana for personal use.
"I'm looking forward to seeing the report," said Cauchon, who has admitted to smoking marijuana in his youth. "Of course, we'll have to analyze all the recommendations. If we're talking about decriminalizing marijuana, we may move ahead quickly as a government."
Cauchon declined to give a firm time frame, but pointed to possible action in the early part of 2003.
"Give me the four first months of next year," he said."
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1039473928948_41///?hub=TopStories
Not my drug of choice, but it's about time.
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oh great.
first, no military spending.
then, keep the guns away from the citizens.
finally?, pot is legalized
talk about easy pickin's :eek:
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heh!
Interesting. I hope this goes through... not because I like mary jane, but I like to see the change. No more being anal about it: "Drugs are bad, mmkay?" or that "Marijuana leads to heroine" roadkill. Maybe it'll influence the US.... ;) Canadians influencing US... hasnt happened since.... since... hockey?
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Oh great. A whole nation of Whitney Houston's...............
C.
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finally...now i can toke it up in peace :)
and wlfgng guess what...we arnt that easy...its because were the worlds bootlick
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Heck, why not? Maybe then all the tards my age and younger will stop pretending they are "bad-ass" and sneaky for smoking dope. Maybe there will be less usage of the thousands of metaphors for smoking up too. (part of the "sneak.")
Like Thrawn, Marijuana isnt really my cup of tea (probably a weed metaphor.) I dont need help getting hungry or tired.
Maybe (read "definately") tax it too. It seems the Canadian government likes to tax things. Then the Liberal Party can finally begin its mutli-billion dollar campaign to "save the dung beetles" that is far past due.
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Well I'm off to apply for a job at Hostess Potato chips.
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Heheheh I'm going to open up a Twinkie factory outside Toronto.
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On the bright side, the percentage of obese Canadians should just shoot past that of the US.
:)
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Hmmm, gotta figure those dealers making money off of illegal pot just gotta hate the new law :)
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If they are decriminalising (not legalising) it will still be illegal to smoke, posess and produce. Th egovernment can'ttax it until it is fully legit and production is under control.
Decrim is is the worst of 2 worlds. It's still illegal, you can still get busted for it, it's just the police prolly wont unless you are really flaunting it. Also the cash stays in the hands of the black marketeers.
Decrim is de facto policy in most UK cities, although smoking it in pubs, restaurants etc is not ok. Some clubs, however, turn a blind eye. Standing at the bus stop smoking a spliff, however, is not unusual.
It realy needs to be fully legalised so that the powers that be can slap a luxury tax on it (and still undercut the black market by 50%) and sell it through licenced vendors (such as liquor stores).
Prohibition of any kind of mind altering drug is never any more successful than American Alcohol Prohibition.
Prohibition is the most dangerous thing about most drugs, not the effects of the drugs themselves.
Prohibition is a violation of a human right to be the master of what goes on inside you. There are plenty of laws to prevent anti-social behaviour. If drug users are antiscoial, use those laws. Anti drug legislation is simply not necessary.
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Should be interesting. saburo... those dearlers are used to being criminals byu now and they are used to the money... they will find something else to sell believe me.
I don't know how it will turn out.. lot's of issues... age of consent... driving while under the influence... workplace issues.. Maybe it will all be no big deal but for sure it will take some adjustment and there will be some mistakes made. I don't want to work with someone who uses pot if safety is an issue and I don't want to drive on the roads with them.... don't care what they do at home so long as the kids get taken care of and they don't burn down the neighborhood.
lazs
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Precisely Lasz. We're big enough and old enough to judge for ourselves.
With the exception of everyone working in advertsising and marketing, where it is unlikely to make much difference, turning up to work stoned (or drunk for that matter) is gross misconduct under any contract, and should result in instant dismissal.
This would also apply to hash-lag/hangover where your function is impaired.
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If the CDN Gov't had a brain in their head they would of packaged it and sold it like cigerettes. Imagine the taxes they could bring in. Maybe we could afford CADPAT for the WHOLE army.
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about time too....
in the news....the state of California has asked the Canadian govr. to join canada as a province....it promises to grow and sell cheaply all weed it posseses. In Canadian money of course:eek:
in the news....canada has gained 50% increase in vacationing americans coming to Canada, and buyin all de weed they can.
in de news....the Canadian dollar is now worth $1.65 that of the american dollar...thx to the ever popular weed growin manufacturers
I foretell this shall happen in de future:D
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Originally posted by bounder
Also the cash stays in the hands of the black marketeers.
it does but there is still one good side to this. supply and demand!
in san francisco, the DA just won't prosecute weed cases, the people would flip out if he did. in fact we recently voted yes for the city to consider growing it's own supply for medical purposes whether the feds let us or not. for all intents and purposes marijuana is decriminalized here and people generally don't give a toejam what the government thinks.
my point is.....since the cops aren't falling all over themselves to bust in your door and haul to jail for growing- many people here do grow. the product they grow is good hydroponic indoor weed, no pesticide and very potent. they are more likely to use the money they make buying video games or paying their rent or going for a better quality steak or something, not plotting terrorist attacks.
since it's not as risky, less criminally minded people are doing it. in a place where they can't wait to lock potheads up for life, only the absolute most hardcore criminals would take the chance, here an average joe might try it just for some extra income or to support their own habit and maybe sell to a few people they know well. i don't know many people who buy from a shady guy on the street, usually people buy from their friends here.
the pablo escobar types have a vastly inferior product- they have to ship crappy dry weed in from mexico or some place and it smells like gasoline and who knows how they grew it or cured it or what they sprayed on it - not to mention the fact that no one likes to deal with people like that. if no one wants crappy weed the big importers have to turn to something else or go try to stir up business in some oppressive bible belt state where they think locking up potheads is the way to go.
legalization would get rid of people like that in the trade completely but decriminalization at least takes it out of the hands of drug lords and back into the hands of 'small business' owners where it should be. even if they are still black marketeers.
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I'm glad to see it.
like others weed just doesn't add up to me-
smoke $20 worth of weed, eat $50 worth of grocerys, sleep through a $350 work day.
but not everybody gets the same effect.
I know many who become very focused and productive after a few tokes. meanwhile if I where to smoke enough to get any of the possitive effects I'd be the one sitting in the corner blowing spit-bubbles
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Decriminalize possession, but not sale. Let people grow their own. Let adults use it in the privacy of their own home. Take the profits and "forbidden fruit" aspect out of it.
No taxes. No government sanctioned commercial weed.
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then you'd be aptly named...I'd be the one sitting in the corner blowing spit-bubbles
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WTG Canada. Hopefully all the uptight anti-weed Nazis will chill out down here in the US and let me grow some of my own toejam. I am tired of the ridiculous prices and low-grade mexican crap that comes around when there is a drought.
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POT has been decriminalized in several provinces in Canada for awhile now...
SKurj
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Having lived a good number of years, sheds a bunch of light on topics like this one.
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Studies show that smoking weed can lead to harder drugs like alcohol.
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I play guitar
I play Aces High(psst note the high part:D )
I read books
I watch movies
I learned computers
I learned programmin
I learned networkin
I learned the internet
I DON'T drink
I DON'T do harder drugs
I DON'T go into any serious FREAKY modes
Guns don't kill...the person holding it does
smokin weed does NOT make you do other things except to feel GROOVY...ya baby.....ya!!!!
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POT has been decriminalized in several provinces in Canada for awhile now...
Care to point out an example? I know for a fact that it isn't here in Alberta, nor BC, having my father be a police officer in one, and my best friend in another. My 1st cousin instructs at RCMP depot in SK, and I guarantee you that it isn't there yet. I also have a cousin in TO that is a cop, and he charges people with possesion monthly.
BC has a VERY informal policy of just seizing small amounts of contraband, BUT this is TOTALLY at the discression of the officer. A guy I know who got mouthy got charged and convicted for having one little bulb on his floor mat in his car, and that was in 2002.
As far as the letter of the Law stands, there is ZERO decriminilization so far.
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You can find people smoking pot out sides the bars here in Ottawa almost every Thur, Fri, Sat. night. It's just not enforecd by the OCRPS.
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Sure, that is the case in BC in a lot of places, and even here in Calgary to a certain extent. But make no mistake, judgement on the part of the cops is in no way decriminilization. If a shift supervisor or cheif called on the radio and said he was passing by that location in 45 seconds, bet your bellybutton eveyone with a joint would be up against the wall getting charged, as it is still against the law to use, trade, grow and posses mary-J EVERYWHERE in Canada.
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The Canadian government is growing pot for medicinal users GMan.
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Sure, for testing purposes, that is in no way decriminlization for the rank and file. BTW, the sterioded genetically manipulated trees from this endeavour were gotten a hold of by some growers in BC, this is why stuff on the street has increased in potency in the last year or two.
Heck, there is VERY few prescriptions and permits issued for medical use, fewer than 300 in this Province yearly. Again, that certainly doesn't qualify as decriminilized. The cops here in Calgary bust that crusader guy, who has a permit, virtaully every month for either cultivation (illegal), distribution (same), and having more than a personal amount (anything more than an onze or so, and they ding him every time). Sure doesn't sound decriminilized for me.
If you truly think it is decriminilzed, I suggest testing your theory by lighting up a joint outside the entry to your local police department, then explain how you are certain that it is not a crime, and to leave you alone. :p
PS. Have your lawyer with bail money standing by, you'll need it.
I think you are mistaking "normalization" of public use with "decriminilization", which has in no way occured yet in this country as far as the criminal code is concerned.
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Hmm i lived in Alberta up until 3 years ago and I was sure they had passed a law around that time or maybe a little longer, stating carrying up to an ounce was no longer a trip to court, just a fine...
In ontario... a single joint gets you hauled off to court...
Guess I was mistaken +)
SKurj
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we have it legal in Oregon (medical use only). it gives you the right to grow 7 plants if you have a perscription.
but some of the cops have found a way around the will of the people.
if you have a growing permit you have to submit to inspections (much like for atf if you have a still) so the local cops come and do an inspection, and they bring with them an observer on a ride along. the observer is a fed. the locals bring him in not needing a warent. then he comes back and busts the guy for growing on federal charges.
last one I heard of was in the salem-albany area.
for some reason they don't seem to apear on the news so proud about these busts as they do with all the others.
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Originally posted by Gman
"If you truly think it is decriminilzed, I suggest testing your theory by lighting up a joint outside the entry to your local police department, then explain how you are certain that it is not a crime, and to leave you alone.
PS. Have your lawyer with bail money standing by, you'll need it."
I would,but something tells me you'd come running out and slap cuffs on me.
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Anyone see that picture of 'shrooms growing on Vancouver PD Headquarters lawn?