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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hblair on December 10, 2002, 08:52:25 AM
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oops
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two words for Dale.....duct tape!
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hb, will you ever let that dead horse lie?
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my bad
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It's a non-issue anyway.
I did a complete series of flight tests to see if there were any advantages to starting and stopping your engine in combat.
In all tests, I found 0 performance advantage with the engine running at idle versus engine off.
Turn rate does NOT improve with engine cut or engine at idle.
Glide rate does NOT change with engine cut or engine at idle.
The only way to improve glide rate is to set RPM to the lowest possible setting for the aircraft you are in.
And just for the record, I did some research OUTSIDE of Aces High... from http://www.cebudanderson.com
Inquiry by ME :)
Responses from Bud Anderson's son, Jim
http://www.fxboard.com:8081/messageboard/jsp/view.jsp?login=ranch&msgid=1537
So kiss it :D
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doh
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WTG HT. I had no idea you would go that far to test damage modeling.
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why is HT posting crap in the BW forums?
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Sounds like a humbling experience in real life!!!
during those moments many scenarios can play out in the mind that only a couple shots of scotch can erase!!
Cheers \_/ HT
T0J0
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Originally posted by Furious
why is HT posting crap in the BW forums?
He's a friend... got a problem with that? >=o|
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Look guys. I'm sorry AW and your prefered relaxed realism gameplay "went away". But I'm also sorry that you kids and your preferences for gaming the game is winning out too.
Oed
In the many years that I played AW, I do not recall one single incident where a player intentionally shut off his engine in mid-flight during a fight in order to gain some type of advantage over the other guy. Not even the time I played WB did I ever see this. It was only when I came to AH that I saw this 'dweebish' gaming tactic.
Ack-Ack
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doh
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bah, if hitech really knew how to fly he would've autorotated the thing to safe landing ;) :D
(good to see it turned out right though HT ;) )
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Originally posted by hblair
Ok , what are you talking about? What's "used against HT" ? HT as I recall, was ok with being able to restart in-flight the last time this was brought up. He had a real-life experience demonstrating how what he said was possible is possible in real life. I made a post pointing out this fact. Did you get lost in the humor? ;)
I think the point Ratboy was trying to make was more about you following someone around on the net, picking up posts they made in one forum and bringing them to another forum, as if they didn't know how to post that info here if they wanted to, rather than what if any use you intended to make with the info.
Its a valid point, at least worth considering. Think about it.
culero
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Originally posted by Oedipus
You mean Hblair is posting obnoxious trolls on BW and running back here to snicker and tell his small circle of friends all about it? That engine toggling bastard!!
Oed
Ummm...yeah, that too :)
culero (LOL if ewe only knew)
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oops
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my bad
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I suppose now HiTech won't frequent BigWeek because of the reaction of some dingbats here. And HBlair, if you're going to visit us, please keep it to yourself.
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Originally posted by Oedipus
[B My point was Hblair et al keep promoting easy mode/relaxed realism behavior which just makes AH into another AW. Oed [/B]
Funny thing is Hblair never played AW hehehe.
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sorry
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oops
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Originally posted by hblair
Oh come on guys, surely you see some humor here. We have a big toodoo over this a few weeks ago, then the developer of the game has a real-life emergency where he has to re-lite the engine in-flight.
oedy, what would be the big difference? a '43 engine would be hot too, the air-fuel is being exhausted, just add some ignition and the engine oughta fire back up. Why wouldn't it?
Yea but was he pulling extrem ACM and attempting to gain an advantage over an adversary? Or was he just trying to save his AC and his life?
doh
(http://aunimages.animfactory.com/animations/holiday_events/christmas/christmas_tree_flashing_md_clr.gif)
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hblair, just to be sure you get it, there were resonse I didn't post it here. And I am little miffed that you took a very personal post by me turned around into a flame fest or a game item.
Please don't respond to this hblair, do as you will, im droping the topic, and don't care to argue about it.
Just wan't to let you know what I thought about it wrather than people trying to guess what I think.
HiTech
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fuggit
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we are just rif-raf anyway.
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Originally posted by Furious
we are just rif-raf anyway.
Um...I still have all my hair ;)
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Are all you AW heroes and protectors of BBS virtue happy now.
You made HB forfeit his balls and delete all of his posts.
Go away now.
Thanks,
F.
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Originally posted by Furious
You made HB forfeit his balls and delete all of his posts.
OBJECTION, YERRONNER!
ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE! :)
culero
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Originally posted by Furious
Go away now.
Thanks,
F.
Sure thing, right away. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Rotorian
Sure thing, right away. :rolleyes:
those rolling eyes thingies get me every time. you have truly shamed me with their clever usage. i am weeping now and considering deleting every post i have ever made to all forums everywhere. your sword is truly sharp, sir.
please forgive me.
please.
just don't use the rolling eyes agian. i beg of you.
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Originally posted by Furious
sir.
HEY! I work for a living!
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Why would anyone edit out every single post he made? Was the statement so weak that he wants to get rid of all record of what he said?
BTW, I have no idea what this thread is about, but I would have liked to know.
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Maybe we could get his in-laws to come in and make some good posts for him...seems he needs a little help!
SOB
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Originally posted by Furious
those rolling eyes thingies get me every time. you have truly shamed me with their clever usage. i am weeping now and considering deleting every post i have ever made to all forums everywhere. your sword is truly sharp, sir.
At least we're all on the same page now.
-Sik
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Kee-rist.....what hole did all the BBS gestapo come pouring out of?
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Nope, thats the Bigweak Pompous bellybutton Gestapo...
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Originally posted by Animal
Why would anyone edit out every single post he made? Was the statement so weak that he wants to get rid of all record of what he said?
Aparently he POed the Game-God.
eskimo
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Originally posted by Furious
why is HT posting crap in the BW forums?
Because he can post in there without anyone asking him when 1.11 is coming out or why the La7 isn't perked.
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by hblair
sorry
I still luvs ya, ya big galute =o)
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I think I'm coming into this thread late but suspect it has something to do with turning off the engine in flight and if it's something possible to restart easily (hard to tell though, a bunch of posts now just read "oops" and stuff.) Just five minutes ago I put down a book and recall reading this:
"As his first target grew larger and larger in his sights, Olds placed his finger on the trigger of his four .50-caliber machine guns, ready to squirt a stream of lead into the cockpit of the 109. Suddenly, his engines (P-38) sputtered and quit. In all the excitement, he had forgotten to switch fuel tanks and his engines had run dry. Without taking his eyes off the target, he switched tanks. The engines erupted and came back to life and Olds took his shot. 'I don't know if anyon ever shot down an enemy aircraft while on a glide slope, but I did. I fired and he sparkled with hits, smoked, dove off on his right wing and promptly bailed out.' "
pg 9, "Fast Movers."
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
In the many years that I played AW, I do not recall one single incident where a player intentionally shut off his engine in mid-flight during a fight in order to gain some type of advantage over the other guy. Not even the time I played WB did I ever see this. It was only when I came to AH that I saw this 'dweebish' gaming tactic.
Ack-Ack
Hold on Ack... back up a second there bud. I had a formerly well known AW vet "RECOMMEND" shutting down Spit engine for a short time to increase Spit turn radius.... and that was when I was on my GEnie account.
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Agreed Tumor....
Back in AWDOS, I was aware of this tactic and used it myself. It was common among the better pilots.