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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: whgates3 on December 16, 2002, 02:57:20 AM
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short, but successful operational history
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Too Easy! :D
This airforce also used many Bf109E3, Hurricane, Blenheim, Do17, Fiesler Storch, and SM79 all in 1940!!!
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nokialand :)
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No way! Not Fnland, they were second hand owners of many of the above planes. :p
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Rogozarski IK-3 from ikarus factry
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
No way! Not Fnland, they were second hand owners of many of the above planes. :p
pffffffffff
I hate getting caught when fishing ;)
Btw wtg Ramzey you avoided my unsuccessfull attempt to lure you :D
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So your excusing your typical french/dutch/polish ignorance as a troll? :p
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nah ...
it was obvious :)
(even if your post lost me at first)
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Nothing is obvious to you frenchies, you are all so overly philosophical and dramatic... :D
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and dam sexy too ...
yeah it's an obvious Hijacking (I can't speell too :p)
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ramzey is correct.
6 planes operational, 10 luftwaffe planes knocked during the fighting of April 6 - 12 1941
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11 kills during this campanion, as i remember
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various numbers according to different sources, but i deciede not to be overly boastful & used the smalled one i saw - wouldn't want to besmirch the reputation of such a fine bird, as i would like to one day see some of the planes of lesser airforces in AH...
according to Emmanuel Gustin's M.A.D. (http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/gustin_military/db/index.html) PZL P.24F was armed with 4 x 20mm Oerlikon. slow fighter, but highly manuverable - deadly if you overshoot or try to turn with it.
FFVS J.22 sjöuld finally see some combat, if only virtual.
IAR 80/81 was regularly mistaken for FW190, couldn't be too bad...
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The following versions were built:
P.24A- 14 aircraft were bought by Turkey and additional 20 built under licence, 2 x 20 mm Oerlikon FF cannons and 2 x 7.9 mm Colt-Browning MG40 machine guns, 4 x 12.5 kg bombs under wings, Gnôme-Rhône 14 Kfs engine and three-bladed Letov propeller.
P.24B - 12 aircraft ordered by Bulgaria, 4 x 7.9 mm Colt-Browning MG40 machine guns, 4 x 12.5 kg bombs under wings, Gnôme-Rhône 14 Kfs engine and three-bladed Letov propeller.
P.24C - 26 aircraft made for Turkey; identical with B, but had two racks for 50 kg bombs under wings.
P.24E - Romania ordered 6 aircraft of this version from Poland and built 40 under licence in IAR Brasov factory. P.24E was equipped with 661 kW Gnôme-Rhône 14 KIIc32 engine (built in Romania under licence) and two-bladed Szomañski wooden propeller, 4 x 7.9 mm Colt-Browning MG40 machine guns. Later on a new 691 kW IAR 14 KIIIc36 engine was used.
P.24F - 30 machines ordered by Greece; 2 x 20 mm Oerlikon FF cannons and 2 x 7.9 mm Colt-Browning MG40 machine guns, 4 x 12.5 kg or 2 x 50 kg bombs under wings, 700 kW Gnôme-Rhône 14N-07 engine.
P.24G - 6 aircraft ordered by Greece, as P.24F, but with 4 x 7.9 mm Colt-Browning MG40 machine guns.
The total of 157 aircraft (including three prototypes) were built in Poland and additional 60 under licence in Romania (40) and Turkey (20).
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...i think thats the 1st time i've found M.A.D. in error...still 2 x 20mm is nothing to take lightly
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PZL-P24 in Greece removed the 20mm in operation because the airframe could not take stress of firing.
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with removing of guns from airplane is funny thing.
Oryginal PZL P11C have mounted 4 x7.9 guns. Smm pilots claim then wing guns decrese manuevrability of aircraft, so order to remove them /every additional weight decrese them/. During september 1939 campain lots of planes have removed wing guns, data not show how many.
In spring and summer 1940 during BoB campain pilots of hurricane order to remove guns from hurricane. 2 or even 4 guns.
It was very popuar in 12 guns hurricane MK2.
That show , pilots chose better manuever planes then better firepower when he fight with largest number of enemy
ramzey