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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on December 16, 2002, 07:59:59 AM
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"You all suck even more than France." That is one American's opinion of Canada.
Another, from Salem, Mass., holds the view that, "Americans are superior to Canadians because we don't play or watch curling."
And from Kansas City comes the comment, "Canada is the bookish, nerdy sister of the prom queen that is America." Many, from all over, remark on how Canada — "hiding behind Big Mama's skirts" — depends on the U.S. for its defence.
But then a Texan chimes in with, "I'm a right-wing American who loves being part of the biggest, baddest, nation on the block.
Yet that voice from the distant, frigid north is oddly reassuring, sort of like having a more even-keeled young brother."
And a "Jon" recalled that the Roman emperors had a servant whisper in their ear, "Remember, Caesar, you are mortal" — a practice that could usefully be recreated in Ottawa — and then opined: "The U.S. needs to be challenged for its own good the same way ... (a role) Canadians are particularly well-suited to."
What Canadians think does matter to Americans. In certain circumstances at certain times.
My evidence for saying this is that I've culled those quotes from the some 1,400 e-mails sent to me as a result of my column of last Sunday titled, "It's not our fault that we're morally superior to Americans."
What promoted the column was some hand-wringing by Deputy Prime Minister John Manley that any Canadian sentiments of superiority were actually a sign of a sense of inferiority, and should be silenced so as not to annoy Americans.
My rebuttal was that Canadian sentiments of superiority were actually a sign of a sense of superiority, and why on Earth not say so out loud, since Americans are certain they are superior to everyone in the world and can hardly be shocked to be challenged.
I expected some shots back, from both sides of the border. I got the verbal equivalent of a salvo of cruise missiles. As a journalist, I've never experienced its equal. The Drudge Report on the Web picked up the column, and, in a tribute to its power, triggered well over 1,000 of those e-mails. American radio and TV stations called for interviews.
Best of all, I got by accident, a fascinating insight into American opinions about Canada but also about their own country.
First, a sample of the antis:
"We Americans don't give a rat's bellybutton what you think about us."
"You do nothing and carp about others. You're like a nation populated entirely by university professors and newspaper columnists."
"You people can be as superior as you like while you surrender your firearms, pay for your socialist health care, and freeze your collective tulips off."
"Canadians are sort of a nation of Homer Simpsons."
Story continued here (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1035775567929&call_pageid=968256290204&col=968350116795), they list the "Pro's" but the only one I can think of is "Good fishing and hunting!" ;)
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And I thought Canadians where obsessed with the US. :)
Hugs and kisses. :D
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Hugs and kisses. :D
Yuck....they're gay too!!
:D
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Canada... somewhere above washington ritght? Isn't it part of Alaska or something?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
Canada... somewhere above washington ritght? Isn't it part of Alaska or something?
lazs
You're close, its a place to hunt, fish, empty your ashtray beside the road, dump out your beer cans, and head home across the border south.;)
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Then the pros:
"One of the reasons Canadians are such good neighbours is that they are not afraid to disagree with us. Our differences are not violent, fearful or antagonistic, and that means they must be constructive."
"I remember the first time being around Canadian people and as a black man that was the first time in my 44 years I was treated like a real person. I wish I were a Canadian."
"Overall you guys are great. If in fact you are superior in some areas, I see that as a challenge. You know how we hate to come in second."
The level of knowledge about Canada was far higher than is generally assumed. To my comment that Canadians have more of a sense of being a collectivity, many respondents replied: "What about Quebec?" On the differences in health-care systems, one of many defending the U.S. practice observed shrewdly, "Canadians do have a two-tier system. It's just that your first-tier is in places like Minneapolis and Syracuse and Boston where you can get an MRI on three day's notice."
The level of humour was high as well. "I'm impressed that Canada's firearms registration program has ballooned from $2 million to one billion. I thought only the U.S. Congress was that inept."
Most interesting, perhaps, is that dealing with a Canadian's comments about the U.S. triggered perceptive comments by Americans about themselves:
"Please be patient with us as we search for a way to respond to what we feel is a critically dangerous time in history. We can have big mouths, but we also have big hearts."
"Americans do have a bit of a superiority complex. But not in the way you understand. We want to be the best at everything we do. Our attitudes demand victory, victory, victory."
"It seems we NEED an enemy to feel good about ourselves. The fall of the Soviet Union was the worst thing that could have happened to us. No one to beat at the Olympics. No one to talk tough to."
The only way to end is to balance evenly, in a properly Canadian way, the praise and the blame:
"Just as Canadians are better at viewing themselves as a collective, they are also better at viewing themselves not just as members of a nation but as citizens of the world."
And to confirm that it's curling that really distinguishes the two nations of North America, "Go back to sliding things across the ice and calling it a sport."
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For God's sakes people...you are forgetting the strip joints. Much better than those "titty bars" you have in the US.
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and Vancouver has a Bulldog.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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You know I think you can sum iup our differences with this thought.
Say you are in Europe travelling by train and you have a choice of who you rather have shareing your rail car, a bunch of US college students or a bunch of Canadian university students.
For those of who say US students you have obviously not travelled in Europe much.
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Originally posted by Curval
For God's sakes people...you are forgetting the strip joints. Much better than those "titty bars" you have in the US.
You obviously haven't been to Portland. :)
SOB
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Originally posted by Habu
You know I think you can sum iup our differences with this thought.
Say you are in Europe travelling by train and you have a choice of who you rather have shareing your rail car, a bunch of US college students or a bunch of Canadian university students.
For those of who say US students you have obviously not travelled in Europe much.
If they're all female, definately US students. ;) Don't get me wrong, its not that Canada doesn't have good looking young ladies, its just too time consuming to have a look, due to the fact that one must pull their head out of the feed bucket first to get a good look.
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Faces covered in gravy, gullets full of poutine; ahh Canadian girls!
SOB
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So I suck....nuttin new there:D
and the worst part is I'm French:eek:
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lol... at least you have a good sense of humor
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Pam Anderson is a Canadian girl
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Made a trip to Alaska about 10 years ago. I had to come back to the U.S. to be treated rudely.
Regards, Shuckins
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BASTARDS...and after all weve done for you
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Originally posted by Habu
Pam Anderson is a Canadian girl
I rest my case (Ya ever seen her without make-up? As plain as Jane can get...)
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Rosie O'Donnel is an American girl.
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Originally posted by Habu
Pam Anderson is a Canadian girl
Which explains the need for all that surgury.
:p
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You know when she was in Playboy she was all natural. Now as she ages she is starting to get surgery. Too bad she would still be good looking with her natural sized breasts.
I think all those nights of partying have started to catch up to her though. Howard Stern still rates her as one of the 5 best looking in the world.
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Originally posted by Habu
Howard Stern still rates her as one of the 5 best looking in the world.
Yeah, we Americans really look to Stern as a Wise man when it comes to good looking women. :eek:
Seriously, just look at Canada's Womens volleyball team, and then the US team. Hands down win for the US.:cool:
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Originally posted by Habu
Pam Anderson is a Canadian girl
So is the weather girl on Fox Sports NFL Today. Jillian, I think her name is.
But most of all, don't forget about Natasha Henstridge.
I guess its a good thing the War of 1812 isn't really taught much in American schools, or we'd all be quivering in our boots, waiting for the Canadian invaders to drive our people to the shores of the Gulf of Mexico.
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Feed bags, eh?
Percentage of US women who are damn fat, in 2000.
Women 19.4
MOOOOO!
:D
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Our economy is based on collecting Rips bear cans...
Probably the most interesting relationship between two nations on the earth. Having been attatched to American military units for courses and deployments I have spent many hours and beers on this topic..
Canada is like an idealized US.
Fro many amaricans we are how they percieve them selves. for others we are like a warning of what can go wrong with libralism gone rampant..
Interesting that this came about as a result of the equivilent of our vice president sucking up to the US while his boss is totaly hostile to the current US administration and more generaly to the US itself.
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Hehe Thrawn, Pongo. :)
Dang, Habu left already, thought I had a live one on...:(
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Originally posted by SOB
You obviously haven't been to Portland. :)
SOB
True..I haven't. I'll take your word for it, but are the clubs there like in Arizona..no booze if the girls are totally nude? I find that to be a weird rule.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Hehe Thrawn, Pongo. :)
Dang, Habu left already, thought I had a live one on...:(
Hehe. Ok Rip how about this......
Actually when you mentioned volleyball chicks I knew you had no concept of what a good looking female is. You weren't the towel boy for the girls basket ball team in High School were you?
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Originally posted by Curval
True..I haven't. I'll take your word for it, but are the clubs there like in Arizona..no booze if the girls are totally nude? I find that to be a weird rule.
More strip clubs per capita than anywhere else in the US. Plenty of booze to be had, no silly clothing rules - the girlies are bare. There are so many clubs in the Portland area that they compete heavily for customers. If ya like to watch the boobies jiggle, Portland is the place.
SOB
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Canada's national anthem owns ours.
At NHL games I notice more Americans singing it than the US anthem, because it's more fun to sing.
I proposed this before, but let's do it again. Rename the US to Canada and steal their anthem. We can call Canada something like Northern Mexico.
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Originally posted by SOB
More strip clubs per capita than anywhere else in the US. Plenty of booze to be had, no silly clothing rules - the girlies are bare. There are so many clubs in the Portland area that they compete heavily for customers. If ya like to watch the boobies jiggle, Portland is the place.SOB
Sounds good...damn good.:)
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Originally posted by funkedup
Canada's national anthem owns ours.
At NHL games I notice more Americans singing it than the US anthem, because it's more fun to sing.
You got that right!
O Can-a-dah!
Blah blah blah blah blah! :p
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blah blah blah.. we stand on guard for thee....
(that's the only other part I know ) hehe
and it's true.. we all sing Oh Canada even when the US anthem is being played :)
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Re: National Anthem...
...that's because the most worthy verse of our (the U.S.) National Anthem never gets sung. It's not even printed in most hymnals (the LDS hymnal being one exception).
As for Canada, I fear Canada:
http://www.standonguard.com
Mike/wulfie
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cheeerist when is the US gonna annex Canada and put a stop to all this squeakin.
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Originally posted by SOB
More strip clubs per capita than anywhere else in the US. Plenty of booze to be had, no silly clothing rules - the girlies are bare. There are so many clubs in the Portland area that they compete heavily for customers. If ya like to watch the boobies jiggle, Portland is the place.
I remember a trip to New Orleans while I was stationed down south. At a "nudie" bar there, one of the soldiers I went with said "Aint this great!?". I simply replied.... "no... not really... not compared to back home."
We do have good nudie bars.
AKDejaVu
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we have a fuggin imaginary border......Canadian....Ameri can.
who gives a watermelon really....
just don't bring your out dated gun laws:D
and don't bring your left and right middle republican democrates nonsense....every1 knows its the one who brings the most gifts that becomes Prez....do you actually think BUSH is THE smartest person to become prez....the fuggin dick didn't even know where CANADA is:rolleyes:
shud up laz....I don't wanna read it.....tst....no....tst don't, ya freak... I know you want to say something....shud up:eek:
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Canada is a land of strip clubs built to service American men. That all it is. All that country stuff is just made up by the Strip Club owners. I think Canadan women are trained for years at that fine "art." Hell, forget about figure skating....add pole swinging to the Olympics and you got gold for team Canada.
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Canadiens are just pissed cause they dont have statehood yet.
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'O Canada' can be sung by anybody. It takes true talent to sing the 'Star Spangled Banner.' A good choral group will send chills down your spine.
Shuckins
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Originally posted by 28sweep
Hell, forget about figure skating....add pole swinging to the Olympics and you got gold for team Canada.
You are forgetting synchronized swimming...it is one way in which they train for the Pole Swinging that comes later on.
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"the true north strong and free"
c'mon. I dare ya!
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Originally posted by SLO
just don't bring...
and don't bring...
Last I heard it was your Western Provinces that were going to "bring" themselves into the US.
Never heard of any State wanting to "bring" themselves into your outfit.
I'd love it Alberta and Saskatchewan joined up. Maybe BC too....
:D
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Originally posted by Toad
Last I heard it was your Western Provinces that were going to "bring" themselves into the US.
Never heard of any State wanting to "bring" themselves into your outfit.
I'd love it Alberta and Saskatchewan joined up. Maybe BC too....
:D
you can have em for free...take em:p
3/4 of your country doesn't even now where Canada is...let alone Saskatchewan:D
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Originally posted by SLO
you can have em for free...take em:p
3/4 of your country doesn't even now where Canada is...let alone Saskatchewan:D
hell 3/4 of us cant even spell sassquachiwan
alright... none of us can :)
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What ever happened to that civil war Canada was gonna enter into? "Quebec vs The Rest".
I can just see the wine bottles flying one way and the beer cans flying the other.
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Originally posted by Apeboy
What ever happened to that civil war Canada was gonna enter into? "Quebec vs The Rest".
Quebec had their referendum, the sovereigntist lost. It's pretty much a dead issue.
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Originally posted by SLO
you can have em for free...take em:p
3/4 of your country doesn't even now where Canada is...let alone Saskatchewan:D
Man, I'd LOVE to. Those folks are my kind of people! Hunting up there is superb and the fishing is better!
And if 75% of my compatriots can't figure out how to drive up there to hunt and fish....... so much the better for me! :D
Didn't I hear that Alberta alone has enough Canuck bucks to pay off Canada's national debt? And that your government paperwork allows a province to withdraw? (No ugly Civil War stuff like Lincoln started, right?)
So, WELCOME Alberta, Saskatchewan and British Columbia!
Book me for salmon in BC early this summer and for geese in Saskatchewan in October! Cyas, my fellow citizens!!
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Go ahead and let em be a state but don't let em vote for at least a couple of generations.
lazs
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Originally posted by Toad
Didn't I hear that Alberta alone has enough Canuck bucks to pay off Canada's national debt?
Nah.
[B}And that your government paperwork allows a province to withdraw? (No ugly Civil War stuff like Lincoln started, right?) [/B]
Kinda, the goverment passed the "Clear Question" law when Quebec had their seperation referendum. If a provence wants to have a referedum then then the question has to be a simple, "Do ya want to leave?" type question, not some roadkill, "If things would be better would ya maybe kinda want ta have some kinda relationship with Canada?". The agrument can be made that there is now a new mechanism for seperation. Of course there was always one there, just like there is in the US, which also has mechanisms for constitutional change.
So, WELCOME Alberta, Saskatchewan and British Columbia!
Book me for salmon in BC early this summer and for geese in Saskatchewan in October! Cyas, my fellow citizens!!
Sorry Toad, but the small minority of westerns that want to leave Canada, for the most part, certainly don't want to join the US.
However we will take Hawaii and California off your hands. :D