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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Vulcan on December 16, 2002, 11:52:11 PM
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OK, I know theres a need to moderate some of the stuff on channel 1... yes another moderators whine.
But this is just a little silly...
Tonight I'm flying over A38, a P47 dives in and zooms out and I have the E to keep with him. He slows to get me overshoot and eventually I do, but I manage to push through and keep just out of gun range. A few more passes and this guy is good, but I keep my E in vertical zooms while he flies flat to the deck evading, eventually I get my shot in.
Later, back at 38, 3 P47s turn up high, I know its the 56FG, one zooms in on me and missed, I say "missed me frenchy", frenchy replied wasn't him, I replied "comon I saw garlic in the cockpit". The P47s stay high, I go in to clear another nits 6 of an La7 but I see a P47 peel in for me again, I nose down for speed and floor it. He saddles up and gets me. Its sancho.
What do I say? It was a good kill. No excuses, so all I can give the 56th guys back is "geez frenchy sending ya woman to get me? :D " <--- note the smiley face.
Next thing a moderator warning pops up, "VULCAN PLEASE BE COURTEOUS TO OTHER PLAYERS".
Now, this is light hearted banter on ch1. No accusations of cheating, foul words, or anything else. I flew with the 56th guys in one of the Norway scenarios - I know them they know me.
Can someone from HTC please tell me what I did wrong exactly? Did I really overstep the mark? Or did the moderator?
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In might have been about the insinuated insult to women. There are a few women who play AH.
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Originally posted by Karnak
In might have been about the insinuated insult to women. There are a few women who play AH.
Indeed, and a few ladies as well! ;)
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Karnak
In might have been about the insinuated insult to women. There are a few women who play AH.
Perfect! Perfect! Perfect liberal response! Even mentioning the existance of women in a joke is now considered evil sexism! Perfect! Perfect!
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Vulcan, hehehe. It was a good kill on me earlier, you kept your E and it was the only way for you not to get shot down, good show.:cool:
As far as the moderating warning, I don't see why you are so offended, it was just a warning or you got actually muted?
To tell you the truth, being called Frogy is pissing me off. The lame jockes about French are pissing me off. I know you didn't intend them as being mean, but if it wasn't for you, I'll start a fight in a bar with someone for it.
You may think it's funny, but for me, it's not really the case even if I know it's a "friendly punt". Assuming this, I'm not surprised that a moderator found them insulting too. For the story, Sancho didn't liked being called "frenchy's woman" either.:)
Honestly, no hard feeling Vulcan, but maybe something for you to consider and that may explain the moderator action.
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Originally posted by Karnak
In might have been about the insinuated insult to women. There are a few women who play AH.
Yes, and I am one of them and IMO a woman has no business in the game if she's offended by such a remark.
BW
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
For the story, Sancho didn't liked being called "frenchy's woman" either.:)
That was the point. Its what ribbing/banter is.
I get called sheepshagger, all the time cos I'm a kiwi. We have a game full of pommies, ozzies, canucks, and yanks. Hell, its part of the game. A bit of ribbing. Really frenchy I didn't think you're that think-skinned that a light reference to garlic or frogs would be so hurtful.
I don't think Sancho broke down in tears at his keyboard, threw his joystick into the corner and screamed "thats the last time they call me Frenchy's woman... I quit!".
Was there an endless tyraid of abuse on ch#1? No... there was a single line. Was there foul language? No... not even close.
Guess Ch#1's gonna be a quiet place here on in.
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GRUNHERZ,
I was simply positing a theory (one that only occurred after I'd left the thread), not saying that I agreed with be censured over it. I do find the suggestion that women are inferior to be crass, but I'm not going on any crusades over it.
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Vulcan was suggesting Frenchy was inferior and that he had to have his woman, Sancha, take care of bidness. That is in fact quite empowering to womyn as your crowd might say.. :D
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I'm thinking of all of the blue banter that Vulcan and I have traded over the years...
And they warn him for THIS? :confused:
As Sgt. Hartman once said, "HOOOOOOOOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY GEEEEEZUS!"
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Funked I am offended at your insinuation that Jesus is holy... Consider yourself warned your eurocentric racist sexist pig!
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Got warned tonight for yanking the resident Napoleon's chain too. Beats me, moderator must be "spotting" this week :p
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Sounds like the frogs DGSE have infiltrated the AH moderator corps!
Ahhhhh it all makes sense now.
(Kiwis and the DGSE have a 'history')
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Originally posted by Karnak
In might have been about the insinuated insult to women. There are a few women who play AH.
Wouldn't have bothered me, as I know the banter for what it is.... :)
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bwahahahaha welcome to my world slobberdonkeys!!
:D
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Relax Sheepshagger, they cant moderate squad channel so rest assured the insults will be flying as usual.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
P.S. As any Brit will tell ya, when we stop throwing the insults around is when you've really shreckin upset us.
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whispers "rainbow warrior".
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Vulcan..
yas.. I even got you earlier heh.. Mod could have used a since of humor.. :D
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The current implementation of moderators.......sucks.
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I'd like to hear from some of the women that fly AH, and what they think of Vulcans comments:
Flossy? Black Widow?
Doesn't matter what I think..I'm a guy, and Vulcan is my Ho.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I'd like to hear from some of the women that fly AH, and what they think of Vulcans comments:
Flossy? Black Widow?
What, you don't even read the threads now? Both posted above. Class acts, both of 'em.
dh
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Doh, thks! I'll pay more attention.
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Have to agree with Tumor. The moderators seem to have a problem. They are biased to certain things/people.
Personally I've never been warned that I can recall and have never been 'squelched' but have heard alot of horror stories...
I have come to the point that I usually just squelch 1 when I enter the arena. It sad as I like to say 'good fight' or a worthy opponent but it usually isn't worth it (depending on the time of day) to have to listen to all the bs that goes on ch. 1.
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Moderators are anonymous.. right?
Maybe Sancho IS the moderator!!!
Dun dun duuuuuuN!!!!
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Originally posted by Oedipus
Better! Or Horn might do his Lew Zealand impersonation on you.
Got my boomerang fish rite'cheer justa waitin fer ya! :D
dh
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I was once warned for using the term "bish queer"...
I guess the moderator musta been a bish as well.
:D
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Originally posted by milnko
I was once warned for using the term "bish queer"...
That narrows it down to about 1000 now... Ouch did I say that? :D
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
To tell you the truth, being called Frogy is pissing me off. The lame jockes about French are pissing me off. I know you didn't intend them as being mean, but if it wasn't for you, I'll start a fight in a bar with someone for it.
You may think it's funny, but for me, it's not really the case even if I know it's a "friendly punt". Assuming this, I'm not surprised that a moderator found them insulting too. For the story, Sancho didn't liked being called "frenchy's woman" either.:)
funny i feel the same about being called a nazi or even a luftwhiner but i see no moderators stopping that happening :)
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To my fellow Yanks that have a tendency to get offended by such banter and belive they should have protection from it..I have checked the constitution of this great nation and read each and everyone of the amendments to the Bill of Right, and upon doing so I can attest to the fact that nowhere in these documents does it ever state that you have the right to not be offended. So, with no rights to an offence free life I can once again have full confidence in my privilege as a member of this free society to tell y'all to go piss up a rope!!!.
Now when it comes to you limeys, micks, frogs, dagos, krauts etc.. that may have full protection from offensive ideas under the laws of your backwards ex monarchies, I can only apologies and beg forgiveness based on my ignorance of you legal institutions.
Move along citizens, nothing more to see here :D :D :D
Avid
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I was the first P-47 that missed you Vulcan. Could have saved you all this trouble if I'd gotten you the first time :D
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At best Vulcan's comments were petty. Worst, they were pathetic veiled whines. Either way, cheesy and poorly reflecting on himself and those who associate with him. Just because these remarks are not completely over the top and disgraceful like those we see every few minutes on chan1/2 does not make them perfectly good. My point, make a love muffin out of yourself and people will think you are a love muffin. It matters only slightly if 20 percent think you are or 100 percent as in the case with Deathpig. It all adds up over time. It's your reputation, trash it if you must. Just don't be surprised when there are consequences to your actions. Its' just like real life.
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And who are you again?
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Its' just like real life.
LOLOLOLOL....now, ask Vulcan if he gives a rats ass...or anyone for that matter. :D
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.squelch 1
The ultimate cure for those looking to be or easily offended.
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Another one with an axe to grind....
... just coz I used to shameless hunt maime and torture rabbits when I was a kid.
:rolleyes:
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So I'm guessing there was more than just the one remark and perhaps the moderator just got tired of hearing the insults directed towards frenchy and sancho and decided to take action.
I wasn't there and I didn't see it all but it's obvious to me from what frenchy has posted that there was more than the one remark and it was found offensive by the two people that matter in this case.
btw Vulcan, if you hadn't gotten that message Frenchy probably never would have posted that he didn't like what you were saying and you wouldn't have had the chance to fix that with your old buddy.
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You people that get offended by this name calling, as watered down as it is, are all rutabagas. Why don't you sissies turn your sound off and put a nice piece of tape over the text buffer so your fragile little feelings aren't hurt. I know the day when HTC gets sued by one of you thin skinned,opportunistic, liberal dweebs is not far away. I can almost see the complaint in my head: "The text buffer contains offensive words such as, Yankee, Frog, or Canuck. As such, we are suing HTC for 8,000,000,000,000,000.99"
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You can talk all the smack you want as far as I'm concerned. When I get tired of it, I'll just squelch channel 1. I know who RTB'd that sortie, which is all that matters to me. You owe me one. ;)
BTW, you still ain't funny. Well, maybe not "funny haha", but definitely "funny queer." :D
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Originally posted by hazed-
funny i feel the same about being called a nazi or even a luftwhiner but i see no moderators stopping that happening :)
Well he shouldnt have married ya then IMO
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
For the story, Sancho didn't liked being called "frenchy's woman" either.:)
this is the right quote this time.
Yall are married right? :cool:
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Originally posted by Steve
You people that get offended by this name calling, as watered down as it is, are all rutabagas. Why don't you sissies turn your sound off and put a nice piece of tape over the text buffer so your fragile little feelings aren't hurt. I know the day when HTC gets sued by one of you thin skinned,opportunistic, liberal dweebs is not far away. I can almost see the complaint in my head: "The text buffer contains offensive words such as, Yankee, Frog, or Canuck. As such, we are suing HTC for 8,000,000,000,000,000.99"
Not that you would probably understand Steve, but try to fill my shoes :
You leave everything you know from your own country, friends, fiancee (that dumps you 6 months later), familly and lifestyle. You arrive in an another country where most point a finger at you because you are different. You start in this new country from scratch, all you have a a suitcase and money. Education, learning a new lifestyle, getting use to differences, traditions and general ignorance.
Each day, for 5 years I'm in USA, I have to ear a remark about some dumb bellybutton American who never set foot outside his country and thinks he knows Europe. "oh you French? I'm french too, my great grand father name is Martin".."Hey I speack French, voulez vous coucher avec moi ce soir?".."French, your women never shave their leg, eww" .. "why don't you go back to France and surrender?" .. "Hey you have internet in France?" .. "why you don't support us in war against terrorisum?".."Hey you are a pilot? Awsome ... hum, did you know the terrorists?".
On the begining it's ok ... but man, after 5 years I just go ballistic, the cup is filled. I choosed to come to USA, I worked for it everyday to make a career from scratch. I understand that I will never be considered as American, and it's not my goal. But like I said, I don't have to take toejam from someone who never had enough balls to "see what's on the over side of the montain range".
I play Aces High to "relax" and have fun, not to be insulted.
:)
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Actually no there wasn't, from the earlier fight some banter was kicking around about frenchy - ranging between he's real good to the french cheats (jokes). But that wasn't me. There was NO mention of sancho's name either, only frenchy's. So only Frenchy and Sancho knew what I was talking about.
And that was the only comment I made after being shot down. NO others. AND there was a smiley face planted clearly on the end of it.
Smack talk is "you cheated", "or you HO'd", or "you got lucky that time".
If a moderator can't handle this, then he should squelch 1 or go play barbie dolls.
And, if you tardlings think about it... calling Sancho frenchy's woman implies just as much of an insult to me :D
Originally posted by Kanth
So I'm guessing there was more than just the one remark and perhaps the moderator just got tired of hearing the insults directed towards frenchy and sancho and decided to take action.
I wasn't there and I didn't see it all but it's obvious to me from what frenchy has posted that there was more than the one remark and it was found offensive by the two people that matter in this case.
btw Vulcan, if you hadn't gotten that message Frenchy probably never would have posted that he didn't like what you were saying and you wouldn't have had the chance to fix that with your old buddy.
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Frenchy, the French folk that I have interacted with are just as hateful to Americans. Tell me, if it's not so, where do Stereotypes like: "The French hate Americans. French people are so rude" come from?
My point is, it goes both ways...we Americans, not all but many, think your country's foreign policy was written by a bunch of chickenshits who are in denial of what's really going on in the world.(not commenting here if I feel that is right or wrong) Unfortunately, some people lash out at you as a Frenchman. I agree that it's not fair to you...life just isn't though.
I have never called anyone race related names in game.. well except for Moot, I called him a racist...if that counts. It's not that I'm some kind of saint or really nice person. I, like most Americans, yes the majority, simply don't give a rat's bellybutton about a person's skin color or nationality. I base my feelings on the actions of the individual. And like everyone in the world, I may have predisposed leanings about certain races (if you are honest with yourself, you will realize it's true for everyone) but these presumptions are readily dispelled by the behavior of such individuals. It may not seem like it Frenchy, but I promise you.. most Americans really don't care about color or race and we are baffled at why so many in the world view us in a negative light. Some will say it's because we are policing the world and that it's not our place to do so. It's a dirty business.. but someone has to do it,...things like Nukes and other WOMD will one day be readily attainable by those of ill will if we do not. Geez what a tangent... ummm anyway... have a nice day.
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Here it is your honor :D
There were some earlier remarks about France from our previous fight, but like I said already Vulcan, it's fairly irritating even if I know it's not meant to be offensive. Now that we talked about it, you know better and I'm confident you will take that into account next time I got shot down.
:D
Now I don't see what the big deal is about the moderator. The guy just asked him "VULCAN PLEASE BE COURTEOUS TO OTHER PLAYERS". If he would have muted you I would understand you being pissed off. (did he mute you, maybe I missed this part?). I think the guy (or the woman:D ) just thought you were bothering other players, by your remarks, our responses. Afterall, Sancho and I said you were:p
Kanth, have the right thought process I think. Oh well, Vulcan, no hard feeling, see you back there:cool:
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Those comments are worthy of a comment from a moderator?
What a Joke :rolleyes:
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Actually frenchy my exact comments in the earlier flight were:
V: "lil warpy there froggy"
F: "you were warpy too"
V: (something like) "oh well you the only one I've seen warpin"
At the point a whole lotta other people talked about ya, one comment being "frenchy low and slow is deadly" and I replied "french was just low and slow and is dead" or close to that. The only comment vaguely related to France is... froggy. What would you prefer I use as slang for French? What is the national motif? A cock (rooster)? :D
If you find this so offensive and irritating perhaps you should change your handle?
Thanks for the screenshot, I think it really shows how silly this moderator is. Why was I irritated? Because I've sat online while kids like deathpig have mouthed off all sorts of crap and got away with it. Also because that popup came mid-flight. Also because I think the moderator is... well I can't say it here.
Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Here it is your honor :D
There were some earlier remarks about France from our previous fight, but like I said already Vulcan, it's fairly irritating even if I know it's not meant to be offensive. Now that we talked about it, you know better and I'm confident you will take that into account next time I got shot down.
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Originally posted by Steve
Frenchy, the French folk that I have interacted with are just as hateful to Americans. Tell me, if it's not so, where do Stereotypes like: "The French hate Americans. French people are so rude" come from?
My point is, it goes both ways...we Americans, not all but many, think your country's foreign policy was written by a bunch of chickenshits who are in denial of what's really going on in the world.(not commenting here if I feel that is right or wrong) Unfortunately, some people lash out at you as a Frenchman. I agree that it's not fair to you...life just isn't though.
I have never called anyone race related names in game.. well except for Moot, I called him a racist...if that counts. It's not that I'm some kind of saint or really nice person. I, like most Americans, yes the majority, simply don't give a rat's bellybutton about a person's skin color or nationality. I base my feelings on the actions of the individual. And like everyone in the world, I may have predisposed leanings about certain races (if you are honest with yourself, you will realize it's true for everyone) but these presumptions are readily dispelled by the behavior of such individuals. It may not seem like it Frenchy, but I promise you.. most Americans really don't care about color or race and we are baffled at why so many in the world view us in a negative light. Some will say it's because we are policing the world and that it's not our place to do so. It's a dirty business.. but someone has to do it,...things like Nukes and other WOMD will one day be readily attainable by those of ill will if we do not. Geez what a tangent... ummm anyway... have a nice day.
Steve, you treated me as a popsicle, I tried to explain you why it was pissing me off. It has nothing to do with the cat and dog game that USA and France play with each other.
Like I said, go to France and ear :
"You guys had to wait for sept11 to finally join the rest of the world on war against terrorisum"
"wow ... you fat man ... how can you do it, that's sick"
"your president is too funny, getting a blow job by a fatty"
"somalia, best fighting force couldn't even capture a warlord"
"is it true that when u graduate from high school you cannot even solve a double integral?"
"no France is not next to China in the black sea".
"does G.W. Bush really has to kick Sadam to prove his dad he's a man?"
"you are a Junkie, USA is biggest user of Majeruana"
"why trying to police the world, when you cannot even police your own streets?"
After 5 years, trust me ... you will be easilly irritated ... would you think it's fair for me then to call you a popsicle?
As far as the foreign chickenshit policy, a comon mistake is to think as an American to solve a problem using the country's asset.
If I wanted to be sarcastic :
You are president of France, you want to invade Afganistan? Awsome idea. Here are your 400 tanks and 50 planes and 10,000 troops.
What? It's not enought? You need more? Sure, go ahead generate money.
Ask the 60 million of French to have their income/sales taxes raise from 23% to 35%. Or and draft kids too from school. And cut on the social programs, so u send in the street 1/4 of the population ... hey why not use them as canon folder? :D
But on a side note, everytime there is a hot spot, France sends troops. It's like like USA, very small numbers (it's all we have anyway) and definitly not with a camera crew who's already on the beach when you disembark;)
Ever eard of the Daguet division during the gulf war? Check them out, you may learn something about surrendering.
On a serious note, all this actually belonging to the O'club, each nation fights for it's own interest and it's understandable. The fact that the "Biggest Arms" around try to impose their way is also very understandable. The misconception that any country has about an another country is understandable. Any country has people who behave or are amazinhunks. The beauty of it is that you can spend hours barking at each other with "you did that ... no you did that". And that's what I love from the many traveling I did. All those people from various backgrounds, religion and traditions, it taugh me one thing for sure : tolerance.
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Bunch of thumb suckers........."excuse me Mr. French, but Buffy called me tard." BAAAAA! I never see the OLDmn from Chicago crying...."because there's no crying in baseball" "Hey Boyington, you can't call that guy a riceball." Boyington's reply, "I just did!" I think y'all need to go fly FS2000, be really polite, let the other guy land first, and don't make any skid marks, your mom might yell at you. :D
Thorns
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Sheeesh you guys oughta see what I say to my squadies...
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Heck Frenchy all ya have to do is listen to ANY gathering of Hollywood liberals to hear exact same stuff--saves trip across Atlantic;
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Originally posted by Steve
Frenchy, the French folk that I have interacted with are just as hateful to Americans. Tell me, if it's not so, where do Stereotypes like: "The French hate Americans. French people are so rude" come from?
Quite wrong we don't hate the american we hate : YOU !
Just kidding ;)