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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Steve on December 17, 2002, 02:28:37 AM
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I love this game... and I appreciate all the work that goes into improving/maintaining it... but the new 51 front view sux, baby!
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But you gotta admit the cockpit bars look so classy!
Wish the Fw190 had those type of bars..
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What happened to function? That new cockpit gives more lead sight, what's to complain?
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Stop flying it - no-one will miss you, given the hordes of the damned 'stealth' dweeb plane. ;)
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Looks a hell of a lot better than it used to. That old P51 was one of the first 5 units introduced at beta.
Overall, this new P51 cockpit and skin are among the five best in the game. Trouble is there are now about 40 units needing rework ;)
The art guys have really come a long ways. Now do to the P51B, LA5 and 7 what youve done with the 51 (then do the rest)
WTG fellas :)
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Plus, I think the gunsight range "bug" should be included as feature in the rest of the planeset. I really like it, and I think it's a nice approach to some more realistic gunnery.
Cheers,
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Sucks? I think it is beautiful :)
It's a dang shame that I'll hardly be able to play until June :(
J_A_B
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Originally posted by Steve
I love this game... and I appreciate all the work that goes into improving/maintaining it... but the new 51 front view sux, baby!
IMHO totally the reverse is true.......more lead........more side view..........and the rendering is just superb.........if this is done to all AC then eye candy is going up a big notch IMHO........
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I L O V E the new P51 cockpit ... it's ... it's ... awsome. I especially like the shape of the canopy frame ... I wished I had the same in the P47:(
I cannot wait for a remake of the D30!!! :D
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I like the new cockpit and the new look.
Great job on the 51D HTC!
Oh yeah, and please, fly more stuka’s, they are wonderfully slow ;).
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Them art guys at HTC did a great job....these praises come from a long time pony driver....thanks boys!
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Originally posted by Steve
I love this game... and I appreciate all the work that goes into improving/maintaining it... but the new 51 front view sux, baby!
Go sit in the cockpit of a real 51 sometime... guess it sucked when North American made it too... because that is one of the best renderings of a cockpit that HTC has done too date. Kudos to HTC for their diligent work on recreating actual cockpits.
Shouldn't this post have been better put in the Whiney baby 1.11 thread???? :D
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Originally posted by Pepe
Plus, I think the gunsight range "bug" should be included as feature in the rest of the planeset. I really like it, and I think it's a nice approach to some more realistic gunnery.
Cheers,
I was wondering if anyone else experienced this...I just did a quick flight last night in the MA to check out the new P51 cockpit and when I closed below 1k on a low con the range counter disappeared. It was such a surprise that I missed the shot I was about to take. Is this the range bug you mention?
With some getting used to I think it IS actually a neat feature, as opposed to a bug...once saddled up on a con I have found that I am distracted by the counter so much that I am leading the counter, not the plane.
I didn't post anything because I only had one flight and thought it might have been my computer or some net lag or something that caused this.
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Another EXCELLENT part of this release is the variable icon size. I'm using the size 12 now and I'd go smaller than that except I can't read the names on friendly icons.
Still, the small icons are superb!
Jeez, the more I fly it, the more I see what a great release this was. I can live without new aircraft for a while. We got TONS of aircraft.
It's these small, MAJOR improvements that I like.
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I love the front view, Im making deflection shots that I never would of made pre 1.11.
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maybe I should have been more specific.. I find the obstruction on the top of the windshield to be objectionable. also, some of the gauges are off the bottom of my screen now(I'm sure this is fixable somehow) By the way Bohdi, I was in the cockpit of a p51D this Saturday.
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Originally posted by Steve
I love this game... and I appreciate all the work that goes into improving/maintaining it... but the new 51 front view sux, baby!
Are you high???
The new P51 cockpit and front view is awesome. The only drawback I see is the thicker frame for the armor glass causing loss of contact when a target tries to turn or climb.
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Hate to say it but I agree with Steve! The cockpit looks great but the bar across the top blocks the forward-up view. I was just starting to like the 51 too. Oh well, I'll either get used to it or fly something else. The icon disappearing in the sights sucks big time. Glad Skuzzy said it'd be fixed in the next patch.
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You don't need the icon to shoot if the target is in range.
You can map the fwd hat to be elsewhere than home, many other planes have much worse, e.g. the 152 going up a formation's six has that center canopy bar.
51D cockpit is really great, almost a perfect plane in the context of AH's hangar selection.
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Midnight, I post an opinion that you disagree with so insult me with "Are you high"?
No, but apparently you're an amazinhunk.
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Well, Steve, ya see...... Midnight's normally 25k+ most of the time. So it's a natural question for him.
:D
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The things I noticed most--
several of the instruments are in different locations.
There is no longer a slip indicator on the gunsight.
The instruments seem generally smaller and somewhat tougher to read although they're still clear enough for me.
Perhaps HTC is gradually moving towards more "historic" cockpits?
The canopy bar is indeed a bit thicker, but this is not a thicker (foreward-view key can be mappable to a different location to see around the bar)
J_A_B
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Originally posted by Midnight
Are you high???
The new P51 cockpit and front view is awesome. The only drawback I see is the thicker frame for the armor glass causing loss of contact when a target tries to turn or climb.
I find that in order to see my rate of climb indicator and slip indicater, I have to set the view too far back to read the ammo and other instruments as well as I could before.
It may seem petty, but I use the climb/descent indicater a lot and now all my instruments are smaller ( farther away) and I can't really disern the ammo load numbers unless I zoom back in.
The updat plane looks great though and this update was an amazing improvement to the game.
I have a GREAT connect now and I LOVE the Komet.
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I like it looks good but dont like how icons disapear
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Originally posted by Steve
Midnight, I post an opinion that you disagree with so insult me with "Are you high"?
No, but apparently you're an amazinhunk.
that's not an insult, it's a compliment. :D :D ;)
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Havent seen the new P-51 yet but from what I know, you guys tend to overwhine on this BBS.
Keep on whining, let HTC sort it out.
Hey think I'll use that in my sig.
:D
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I enjoyed the game as it was, so anything new is just perkies for me, the new additions
are awesome.
One of the best releases yet
HTC
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Here is what i have to say to you people complaining about the new patch.
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The default head position allows you to see the entire dash without hiding any gauges from view. You should also be able to reposition your up and forward view so that the upper frame member is not obscuring your view. I like the changes.
When I first ran into the vanishing icon thing yesterday I made the 110 responsible pay dearly! Little did I know it was a bug. It has been fixed now.
I love this plane! :)
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This plane is for GPreddy!
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Hey GPreddy how did you get your tag to display below the canopy or does it do that automatically? BTW 12-24 is my new date. Cya in the virtual skies then.
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Originally posted by Steve
Midnight, I post an opinion that you disagree with so insult me with "Are you high"?
No, but apparently you're an amazinhunk.
How does my question make me an amazinhunk? Obviously, your response is from knowing that the title to your topic is inflamatory and should deserve a jabbing response...
Originally posted by Steve
51 Front view now sucks!!!
Now considering that you have gotten yourself into a highly agitated state over this situation, let me quell the uprising.
My question, "Are You High???" was in fact asking if you had your seat position high in the cockpit, which is what many P-51D dirvers have. Therefore, the new upper cockpit rail and armor glass frame would indeed impare your forward view much more than it had in the past.
Unfortunately, you took my response as offensive, when in fact your aggressive attitude promoted the feelings of animosity now festering between us. Hopefully, we can resolve this issue without a lengthy and ungainful squable that could quickly turn into a mud-slinging contest of epic proportions.
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Originally posted by Midnight
My question, "Are You High???" was in fact asking if you had your seat position high in the cockpit, which is what many P-51D dirvers have.
BAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D
~CHOKE~
YAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA :)
culero (that's a beauty!)
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Originally posted by Midnight
My question, "Are You High???" was in fact asking if you had your seat position high in the cockpit, which is what many P-51D dirvers have.
ROTFL! Sorry Midnight but that's the funniest damn thing I've read all day.... hehehehe.
Does somebody give a biggest BS award? If so this one gets my vote. Hehehehe! :D
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IMO the new P-51 has a better 12 view then the original P51. Ive been able to shoot lead shots alot better now, without having my seat position above the nose.
And i appreciate all the work HTC :)
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yeah, more 12oc angle visible under the nose at the cost of just a bit at high 12; that's ignorable with the extra fwd head position, so what's the big deal? Too lazy to move head around during flight? You should already be doing it for pre-snapshot nose positioning estimations...
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Uhh sure Midnight, THAT'S what you meant.... ya.
As far as festering animosity.... go ahead.. fester away. ;)
I really won't be giving that another thought.
Have a nice day.
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Funny, I get the impression that there's LESS view over the nose (though only by a tiny amount)
J_A_B
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I mean angle, with the same fish eye openings where the canopy sides meet the cowl, like the 109E remodel got.
There's more oval shape in the cowl from pilot's head but that's not what i meant.