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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: LePaul on December 18, 2002, 10:03:47 AM
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I thought this was the best movie yet...very well done. Right up there, just a tad ahead of Star Trek II
Good laughs, great action...
And you know Data will be back, eventually. Another 7 years of learning humanity?
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you need more spolier space next time. :p
I haven't seen it, but I heard it's awful, but not as bad as Insurrection.
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There is no way in hell ANY Star Trek movie could be better than Khan.
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Hmmm,..out of all the First Generatoin movies,...First Contact still the best.
Uhmmm,...Nemisis is the last First Gen movie, by the way.
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Never got into TNG very much. It always seemed too sanatized and McGiverish. "Captain, it will take three weeks to fix the warp coil. I need it in three minutes. Yes Captain."
I had higher hopes for Enterprise, but it's a victim of "Egos on the Away Team" syndrome. Lets see, for this dangerous mission we need the captian, first officer and second officer (heven forbid some main character get left out of the shoot-em up). We'll just entrust the ship and crew to third officer so and so. Admittedly, the first series had some of this, but it seemed to be more accidental (a routine, casual event takes an unexpected bad turn, etc.) rather than ship policy. To Pol is pretty inspiring though :)
Charon
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Uhmmm,...Nemisis is the last First Gen movie, by the way.
I saw Cap'n Picard on Conan the other night, and he said that wasn't necessarily so. He mentioned the first they heard that it might be the last movie was that little blip on the movie poster. He also didn't say that he was sure there would be another one.
SOB
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There was one episode of TNG that I thought was incredible.
It was about a probe that they run across, and bring aboard. The probe then takes over Picards brain for the entire show. It allows him to relive the life of a man on the probe's planet (which was destroyed by a nova or something). Picard spends the entire show trying to learn to play a flute. Very well done and IMHO one of the best shows ever.
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KIRK
We are assembled here today to
pay final respects to our honored
dead.
Carol and David are PROMINENTLY FEATURED.
David watching Kirk attentively. So are Sulu, Uhura,
Chekov, and Saavik. Bones stands next to Kirk. Scotty
carries his bagpipes. Saavik wears her hair down.
(CONTINUED)
107.
260 CONTINUED: 260
KIRK
(continuing)
And yet, it should be noted, that
in the midst of our sorrow, this
death takes place in the shadow of
new life, the sunrise of a new world,
a world that our beloved comrade
gave his life to protect and
nourish. He did not feel this
sacrifice a vain or an empty one -
and we will not debate his profound
wisdom at these proceedings. Of
my friend, I can only say this...
of all the souls I have encountered
in my travels, his was the most -
(he falters)
- human.
*sneef* :(
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Originally posted by midnight Target
There was one episode of TNG that I thought was incredible.
It was about a probe that they run across, and bring aboard. The probe then takes over Picards brain for the entire show. It allows him to relive the life of a man on the probe's planet (which was destroyed by a nova or something). Picard spends the entire show trying to learn to play a flute. Very well done and IMHO one of the best shows ever.
god you're such a lefty... did he get in touch with his feelings and hug his long lost father too? :rolleyes:
-Sik
;)
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Wait a friken' minute!
"a world that our beloved comrade "
Comrade?? There's your friken' lefty! Kirk was a commie! Of course, he was Canadian. :D
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Originally posted by Sikboy
god you're such a lefty... did he get in touch with his feelings and hug his long lost father too? :rolleyes:
-Sik
;)
I think you need a hug too....
:p
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Charon: Never got into TNG very much. It always seemed too sanatized and McGiverish. "Captain, it will take three weeks to fix the warp coil. I need it in three minutes. Yes Captain."
Sanitized? Oh, I see... The edited version had some dialog removed that leads to perceived artificiality. You should have bought the DVD with the uncut scenes. It was actually quite natural:
Yes, Captain, but I will get a hell of a trouble from my LABOR UNION rep.
miko :D
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Ah that is a good episode.
Liked "Yesterday's Entrprise" too. Other favorites are "Cause and Effect" where they are in a time loop, or "Booby Trap".
I really liked the Voyager series a lot, several great ones in there. The one (name eludes me) where the Hirogen invade and the holodeck is World War II....2 part episode.
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I agree, this was the best star trek ever. Great bad guy, special effects were not over done, (starwars) a lot of suspence, and great use of subtlety. They seemed to take some great scenes from other movies and tastefully added them into Nemisis: Mad Max - the beginning, the original star wars - the shootouts in the ships coridors, and others. I was pleasantly suprised, and I would definately watch it again. Funny thing; when I left the theatre, I also said, this one was better than Khan. Check it out.
newguy
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Miko, I was actually referring to the entire series. It is entertaining, but it was just a bit too polished and clean for my tastes and I never went out of my to watch it regularly. The federation technology seemed just too superior and all-encompassing, and it was too easy to manufacture a convenient solution to most problems. I'm catching a lot more on reruns these days though.
I actually liked the first TNG movie better than most of the original series movies, though Rath of Kahn was a winner. I'll probably see Nemesis on DVD when it comes out.
Charon
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Originally posted by midnight Target
There was one episode of TNG that I thought was incredible.
It was about a probe that they run across, and bring aboard. The probe then takes over Picards brain for the entire show. It allows him to relive the life of a man on the probe's planet (which was destroyed by a nova or something). Picard spends the entire show trying to learn to play a flute. Very well done and IMHO one of the best shows ever.
The probe is not brought aboard, it just connects with Picard ;).
The episode is "Inner Light", and I believe its script won several Sci-Fi awards.
The fun fact of this episode is that the actor that plays the son of the character whose life Picard re-lives is actually Patrick Stewart's son :D
My favourite episode is "All good things"... that should have been ported to the big screen, not Generations or Insurrection.
BTW, I read that Stewart said it would be his last Star Trek movie at the premiere.
Daniel
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Baloney
Read the TV Guide article on it, he's quite in the mood for more.
Where did you read that?
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Those in the foreground were caught watching Star Trek.
(http://galactic-voyage.com/images/SW%20pics/The%20Empire%20Strikes%20Back/at-at%20attack.jpg)
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Charon: Miko, I was actually referring to the entire series.
I know. I just wanted to take a jab at the labor unions...
The federation technology seemed just too superior and all-encompassing, and it was too easy to manufacture a convenient solution to most problems. I'm catching a lot more on reruns these days though.
Have to disagree here. At least compared to the original series TNG was less about technology and daring and more about mental work - ingenuity, solving moral dilemmas facing responcibility.
Of course when you want to make a plot based on ingenuity and moral dilemmas attractive to a mass audience, you have to seriously dumb it down - so it will not come out right for some people burdened by wit and education. With the original series we had a dumb cartoon but at least we did not expect to see more.
That is besides the fact that TNG is a blatant communist propaganda. Central authority. No money or choice apparent in the Federation, no mention of competition or commercial freedom. The only free market types are either deranged loners, criminals or ridiculous Ferenghee selling their mothers.
miko
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Originally posted by newguy
Funny thing; when I left the theatre, I also said, this one was better than Khan. Check it out.
newguy
Some of you guys need to watch Khan again.
Here's the script for it.
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/scripts/khan.shtml
Here's the script for Nemesis.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=888ee1ef.0203191352.7185dff7%40posting.google.com
And what the hell, here's a crapload of other movie scripts.
http://www.script-o-rama.com/table4.shtml
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Originally posted by miko2d
No money or choice apparent in the Federation.
miko
What makes you think there is no choice?