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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: mia389 on December 18, 2002, 04:11:29 PM
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Was fighting with nights and they all flying tempest casue they cheap they had 20 less players than us. They were killing us left and right,so I jumped in one to go play give them run for there money...........WRONG got shot down lost 117 perks. If this perk system stays Im gonna be jumping sides so often Im gonna forgot where I came from. Whats your guys take on it?? I know Bishops cant stand it,but supose all others like it casue planes are cheaper.
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It's an excellent system that does exactly what it says on the tin.
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If I remember correctly, you started off with us Rooks. I distinctly remember seeing you and even answering some questions you asked on country channel.
After some time, I noticed you moved over to the Knights. Not to blame you, but it felt kinda disappointing to see people who recently joined and was on your team and you helped out moving to some other country.
Now you are with the Knights. A nice bunch of pilots, and pretty confident in overall numbers, too.
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If you are so frustrated with the expensive perks, then come again to Rooks. Side changing to the powerful, advantaged people are considered dweebey, but noone really laughs on people who willingly change to outnumbered sides.... unless you change back again in a week or just one month, like some other loud mouths have done, which became the laughter for us Rooks for eternity.
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IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just cuz we are better and have more people we can have fun flying the perk plane and I would die than be a rook.....cough,,,gag,,,,puke. HT change it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HawkerI
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ROFL
Then don't be a Rook, don't die, and pay the price for sticking with the Hoarde. Nothing's free, everything has their price, and everyone's got their responsibilities.
Up to now, people could just go yellow-belly and give up balancing, go join the largest bully in the street and start stepping on the lesser side, free-of-charge. Heck, it was even considered stupid to pay allegieance and loyalty to your old teammates, risking shi**y 5 to 1 odds every field you upped. All you had to do was change to the largest side and start earning cheap kills everyday for free.
Well, FYI you still can do it now.
Except for the little fact that the numbers advantage now comes with a drawback, like everything else.
The balance system is working out exactly as planned. Now, the guys who are numerically advantaged start whining, and that's worth a long, loud laugh.
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All You Bishops Whining About The New Player Number Balancing System (Perk Point Multiplier) POST HERE!!! :D :D :D
Geez, this feature is working real well, it seems :)
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Originally posted by FDutchmn
All You Bishops Whining About The New Player Number Balancing System (Perk Point Multiplier) POST HERE!!! :D :D :D
Geez, this feature is working real well, it seems :)
Heehee
Makes me glad I changed to Rook honestly for honest reasons :)
Flew a F4U-1C for 7 perks last night. :)
Lost the perks but earned them back next mission in a 190D. :)
Sorry, am I gloating? :D
palef
PS Can't wipe the grin off my face :)
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i fly bish and i love the system.
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Newbies seem to be coming in day by day, so they should be put on the team that has least players at the time they start in the MA.
Eg........Bish.......185..... .nit.................175..... ........Rook..............135 , so the Newbie would be put on the rooks to help get there numbers up.
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<-- Bish.
System is good. Keep it.
Gatso
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Been with Rooks for a week or so now - may get to fly a 262 :)
I like it - keep it the way it is :D
Sparks
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It's a bad system. I've never burned that many perks in a single day. lol. :)
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Give it time to work, it seems to be doing what it's designed for.
To quote Stalin: "Quantity has a quality of it's own". You got numbers, we got perks. Fair enough.
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Gotta love it. Yes, the old system ensured that the only real question was whether the Bishops or the Knights would reset the Rooks first, and we all know that the sidebalancing was a mess. But as soon as a fix which we discussed at length on the BB is implemented, the whine klaxxon goes nuts.
Sometimes, I marvel that HT hasn't ended up in a bell-tower with a high-powered rifle already. Dealing with such a selfish and unsatisfiable user community would drive most people slightly loopy by now. Why don't we just fold all most of the complaints into a general thread entitled "The game should permanently be tilted in my personal favor. Give me cheat keys and an F16 NOW!"
Sigh, sorry to flare up, I'm just profoundly disappointed at the wave of whining that followed the patch. These guys are trying hard to consistently improve the game, give 'em a break and try hard to make a few constructive suggestions once in a while.
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The new perk system rocked(Btw, I'm a bishop) when it was on.
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<----Rook
Is a Rook now, has been a Rook since day one (Day one in beta), and will always be a Rook, as long as there is Rooks around.
Anyway, I believe in the new perk point system and think this is a good thing, been online way to many days with numbers like Knights:176 Bish: 156 Rooks:47
The new feature can only be a good thing.
The Wild Vikings
Commanding Officer
(http://217.8.137.250/twv.gif)
Lasse
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Bishop for life.
PERKS BE DAMNED YOU DWEEBLICKERS!
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I only fly as Bishops and its system is nice.
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Was great last nite as a Bish.....it was like a Tempest clearance sale going on. I find it extremely hilarious that this new perk balance system has come back to bite the Knits on the bellybutton because it seems that lately they are the ones with the numbers during US prime time nites.
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Funny how balanced the sides where tonight :D
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Originally posted by Mitsu
I only fly as Bishops and its system is nice.
Yeah right Mitsu, ya better come back to rooks
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i like it:)
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Originally posted by HawkerMKII
IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just cuz we are better and have more people we can have fun flying the perk plane and I would die than be a rook.....cough,,,gag,,,,puke. HT change it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HawkerI
Nah, leave it this way, at least whines about the perk system are a change from the normal numbers whines.
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Look at all this girlz running mad about perks cost! Oh, the AHumanity :D
ROFL! .... WTG, HT. I only hope all future improvements work as good as the ones in 1.11. Especially the perk balancing system :)
It's like ccvi says...never burned so many perk points as yesterday :D
Oh...and I'm proud to belong to the most powerful and efficient economic empire of AH: Rookland. We produce more, and cheaper!
Cheers,
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Originally posted by Pepe
Oh...and I'm proud to belong to the most powerful and efficient economic empire of AH: Rookland. We produce more, and cheaper!
this one is a gem :)
ROTFLMAO pepe :p
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Originally posted by Kweassa
The balance system is working out exactly as planned. Now, the guys who are numerically advantaged start whining, and that's worth a long, loud laugh.
Exactly!! :)
Personally, I've been a rook since last spring and during the summer and the fall we had the least numbers most of the times I was logged. I zipped up about it...didn't say a word.
Sometimes it was frustrating but when the numbers became too overwhelming I flew a Me-262. :)
When somebody mentioned the numbers he was quickly labled as whiner...sometimes with a reason and sometimes not. Heard the line "numbers don't mean a thing" many many times from the guys who were in a more populated country. :)
To see them instantly start crying about perk prizes while enjoyning bigger numbers at the same time...priceless. :D
P.S I don't care about the perk multiplayer one way or another. Being in the smallest country rarely has made me log off and I can't really see how one can get shot down in a Me-262 very often.
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Guys seem to be missing the point.
The side balance system isnt there to provide us with cheaper perks. Its a tool to encourage the balancing of the 3 countries.
It wasnt planned for folks to keep jumping around to find the best bargin on perk planes. 12 hour switch time is fine as it helps balance numbers over a longer period.
I dont doudt that there will be some guys who switch every 12 hours to get the short term benefit of cheaper perks. You would think 4 or 6 hours would be enough but from the looks at the numbers of hours folks fly a month I think 12 is reasonable.
This is one one the best features HT has implemented.
Thanks ..........
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Who needs a perk vehicle or plane to win?
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THIS is awesome!! How long has MA imbalance been hashed, argued, fought over etc etc by the regulars on this board? NOW that something has been done about it the country jumping gangbang dweeb crowd is coming out of the woodwork with thier hair on fire lol.
I LOVE IT!
Cry on dweebages... this is invaluable entertainment.
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Originally posted by Rude
Who needs a perk vehicle or plane to win?
Only numbers are required to win, but it's a lot more fun to die in a cheap perk ride.
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Love the new system. Only been on for a couple of flights since the update and it took me a couple minutes to remember the new perk system after landing 10 points with 4 kills in an F6F. Needless to say I like the system. I'm the kind of flyer who enjoys using my perk points to auger a 262 or Tempest once in a while. Now I can build my points faster and crash these planes more often and cheaply on some evenings.
Been with the Rooks since day one and I love to see the whiners who have always had numbers! Keep it coming! Pay back is a squeak aint it.
Seriously it sounds like we are seeing more perk planes in the air also, makes for a more interesting kill when you down a Tempest in an FM2. Not many opportunities to do that before!:rolleyes:
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The system is good, but it would be even better if also considered for normal points, not only for perks.
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Originally posted by Pepe
Oh...and I'm proud to belong to the most powerful and efficient economic empire of AH: Rookland. We produce more, and cheaper!
No, not more. Just cheaper and of higher quality ;)
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Originally posted by Rude
Who needs a perk vehicle or plane to win?
... when you have twice the numbers?
;)
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Overall I think the perk modifier is a step in the right direction. Yes it has flaws - not going to use Rook, Knit, or Bish for example for fear of upsetting someone. We all know at times during the game two countries attack the other one, so if A has 100 players, B has 150 and C has 200 and A and B both attack C then the perk system doen't work. Techincally A+B has 25% more players, yet C still gets penalised and B is laughing all the way to the perk bank. But as I said it is a step in the right direction and no doubt will be refined in the coming months. Yes I am a knit and since the perk system was introduced have seen a slight increase in cost of perked AC and GV's depending on time of day, but overall have no complaints as I am sure the the modifier system will be refined.
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Nice to see HTC trying things to balance the game and I like the idea of the current perk weighting. Of course, I rarely fly perk planes so who the hell cares what I think? :)
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Here's the frikkin beauty of this system.
No more love muffines bringing their tempests, 262's, etc. to a gangbang vulchfest.
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i like it ,
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Last night I logged on to very even teams. I really like the new system. It's not perfect but it's a great step in the right direction, maybe tone down the perk offsets just a bit. The following quote was a really nice interpretation but I wanted to point out a misperception.
"We all know at times during the game two countries attack the other one, so if A has 100 players, B has 150 and C has 200 and A and B both attack C then the perk system doen't work. Techincally A+B has 25% more players, yet C still gets penalised and B is laughing all the way to the perk bank."
This only make sence if you believe that 100% of both teams A and B attack team C, in reality this never happens. Near the end of a war the two larger teams typically fight each other to get more bases. At the end of a war I'd guess maybe 50% of teams A and B would actually be attacking C.
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Love it!!! WTG HT!!!
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Agreed Goob, but depending on numbers the scenario could happen. Depends on how unbalanced the numbers are on each side to start with. You could still end up with the team with most players "outnumbered". E.g A has 200 B has 199 C has 195. If go ing for a reset tema A could easily find itself outnumbered. Still as I said this is new and I am sure refinements will be made as situations occur.
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Sure it does not help side balancing (as moving about equal numbers of players to each front-line).
But it still is fun! :)