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Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 19, 2002, 12:58:19 AM
We need the Hurricane MK II D with dual 40mm cannons. Since the ground war got a major boost, it only stands to reason we could use some more dedicated anti-tank planes.

(http://oldwolf.myrice.com/ukaircraft/images/hurricane-11.jpg)

 



Ack-Ack
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Gman on December 19, 2002, 01:02:08 AM
?
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: J_A_B on December 19, 2002, 01:02:31 AM
Um, AcK-AcK...

Check the AH hangar selection list REAL closely

J_A_B
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Innominate on December 19, 2002, 01:06:04 AM
I'll bite.
It WOULD be cool if we had it!
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Russian on December 19, 2002, 01:06:28 AM
LOL
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Ecliptik on December 19, 2002, 01:24:31 AM
Hehe.  Requesting a plane we already have.  It's a new approach at least.

Anyway, we do have the Hurri II-D, but the 40mm's fire sequentially instead of in a synchronous manner.  The result is that the recoil actually sends the plane yawing left and right while firing, making aiming very difficult at best.

I believe that historically the cannons both fired at once, so I'd like to see that in AH.
Title: Oops, wrong model...meant the Mk IV
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 19, 2002, 01:43:36 AM
Got the wrong model, meant the MkIV with the Merlin 24/27 engines and low-attack wings.  But since we've already have the II D, I guess another 40mm Hurricane would be redundant.  I guess I have to check out the plane set beyond the P-38 and Stuka :D


(http://oldwolf.myrice.com/ukaircraft/images/hurricane-08.jpg)



ack-ack
Title: Re: Oops, wrong model...meant the Mk IV
Post by: Drano on December 19, 2002, 11:04:50 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I guess I have to check out the plane set beyond the P-38 and Stuka :D




ack-ack


Might I suggest the 109G6 and the A-20g? ;)

       Drano
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: gatso on December 19, 2002, 11:24:37 AM
The Hurri IId is currently completey uneffective against anything.

Rounds bounce off pnzr IV's and tigers.

Probably the only thing it is useful against is maybe the M8, but why bother? Easier ways of killing m8s.

Gatso
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: paulieb on December 19, 2002, 11:33:32 AM
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Originally posted by gatso
Easier ways of killing m8s.

Gatso


Heheheh....yup....like driving them into sheep, grazing a tree, overturning on a flat piece of building wall, killshootering the M3 you're escorting, the list goes on.....
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Pepe on December 19, 2002, 11:39:44 AM
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Originally posted by gatso
Easier ways of killing m8s.


Yeah, but only with killshooter off   :D

Cheers,
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Turbot on December 19, 2002, 11:40:08 AM
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Originally posted by gatso
The Hurri IId is currently completey uneffective against anything.

Rounds bounce off pnzr IV's and tigers.

Probably the only thing it is useful against is maybe the M8, but why bother? Easier ways of killing m8s.

Gatso



The M-8 has 3 kills and has been killed 2 times against the Hurricane IID.
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Pooh21 on December 19, 2002, 12:44:01 PM
That little 50 on the top of the M8 is quite deadly,same for the m3s. Same for the various pintle and hull gun 30s.  I got 2 spit kills and a 3rd one smoking last week with my panzers pintle gun both maybe about 12-20 hit sprites total and the damaged one about 8 times. In my stuka or ju88 I can light a con up for long seconds and hell fly away merrily
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: JB73 on December 19, 2002, 12:50:02 PM
what we really need is the 37mm on the stuka.

then it would be a true ground attack platform.

maybe an ammo loadout option where if you take the 37mm you cant have the 1800kg bomb just a 1000k or something like that.


oh well my 2¢
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Mathman on December 19, 2002, 01:38:09 PM
This is what we really need to go tank plinking:
Title: Re: We need another tank buster!
Post by: maxtor on December 19, 2002, 01:44:49 PM
Isn't that what the Il2 was made for?  I have not tried it yet, does it still work?
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 19, 2002, 03:05:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JB73
what we really need is the 37mm on the stuka.

then it would be a true ground attack platform.

maybe an ammo loadout option where if you take the 37mm you cant have the 1800kg bomb just a 1000k or something like that.


oh well my 2¢


I would like to see a weapons package that allowed it to carry a torpedo like the D-4 did.  Unfortunately, the 37mm Flak18 cannons didn't come until the G model.


Ack-Ack
Title: Re: Re: We need another tank buster!
Post by: LePaul on December 19, 2002, 04:12:26 PM
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Originally posted by maxtor
Isn't that what the Il2 was made for?  I have not tried it yet, does it still work?


Take one up, IL-2's get swatted down pretty easily...I tried to take on some tanks with one the other night.  Same thing every time, 1 ping to the tail and my Oragami IL-2 lawn darts.

:confused:
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: boxboy28 on December 19, 2002, 04:31:11 PM
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Originally posted by Mathman
This is what we really need to go tank plinking:


IM with the mathman on this one all the way!

Box
Title: Re: Re: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Innominate on December 19, 2002, 05:51:15 PM
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Originally posted by maxtor
Isn't that what the Il2 was made for?  I have not tried it yet, does it still work?


The il2 dies to ostwinds and m16s as readily as anything else.  In 1.11 they're no longer able to inflict any more damage than any other plane using thier guns.  Panzers/tigers are completly immune, and ostwinds guns are the only thing threatened.

Best plane I've found for dealing with GV's is a stuka with 2x 250kg and a 1000kg bomb.
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: BGBMAW on December 19, 2002, 06:34:42 PM
ya thts great math:rolleyes:

How about the B-25H model..or just a b-25 with that option..(75 mil in the nose)

Or id rather have the HS 129....sweet ride....75 mil cannon anti-commi pinko-red tank killer:)

Love BiGB
xoxoxo


ya i know math u were joking.....but..weeeeee

how about tow missles instead if you are going to jump ahead by 50 years
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Karnak on December 19, 2002, 07:52:23 PM
We need the 37mm cannons on the Il-2.  Ours only has 23mm cannons.

The Hs129 with the PaK75 75mm anti-tank cannon would be good as well.

The Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII with the 57mm cannon might get a tank now ant then.

The Yak-9T that we have now is armed with one of the 37mm cannons that the Il-2 should have.


The B-25H would be useless.  It has a 75mm low velocity cannon that would just bounce off of tanks.  It'd be good against light armor and buildings though.
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: maxtor on December 19, 2002, 08:40:51 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
We need the 37mm cannons on the Il-2.  Ours only has 23mm cannons.


If this is correct, then lets bring on the IL2 weapons upgrade! :)
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Booky on December 19, 2002, 09:17:36 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
We need the 37mm cannons on the Il-2.  Ours only has 23mm cannons.

The Hs129 with the PaK75 75mm anti-tank cannon would be good as well.

The Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII with the 57mm cannon might get a tank now ant then.

The Yak-9T that we have now is armed with one of the 37mm cannons that the Il-2 should have.


The B-25H would be useless.  It has a 75mm low velocity cannon that would just bounce off of tanks.  It'd be good against light armor and buildings though.


Not true, if you attack from 75 degrees or more just about anything over 20mm will eat them up. Yes I have killed even a tiger with my F4U-C guns. Was at about 85 degree dive and light him up about 3 passes and about 100 rounds or so.

Booky
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Karnak on December 19, 2002, 09:48:33 PM
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Originally posted by maxtor
If this is correct, then lets bring on the IL2 weapons upgrade! :)


Check it yourself, it is most certainly armed with two 23mm VYa cannon.
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: rc51 on December 19, 2002, 10:36:15 PM
WE got one the p-51 is suppossed to have cannons:confused:
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Karnak on December 20, 2002, 12:13:28 AM
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Originally posted by rc51
WE got one the p-51 is suppossed to have cannons:confused:

Not the versions of the P-51 that we have.  No Merlin engined P-51 had cannons, and only some of the Allison engined P-51s had cannon.
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Booky on December 20, 2002, 12:35:11 AM
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Originally posted by Karnak
Check it yourself, it is most certainly armed with two 23mm VYa cannon.


LoL opps that quote was supposed to be innominate saying that GV's are immune to aircraft cannons. Guess I hit the quote on wrong post:D

I would love to see some more aircraft with the 37mm, provided they actually had them.

Booky
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: gatso on December 20, 2002, 07:53:51 AM
:confused: :eek:

Il-2 has 9 Kills of Tiger I - Tiger I has 26 Kills of Il-2


C.202 has 1 Kills of Tiger I - Tiger I has 0 Kills of C.202

Gatso
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: maxtor on December 20, 2002, 08:21:07 AM
well then off to start an IL2 weapons thread in Aircraft and Vehicles (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=17)  I am sure HTC would fix it if we supply the info.
Title: We need another tank buster!
Post by: Masherbrum on December 20, 2002, 08:30:33 AM
The Pony wasn't a "tank buster" the "jug" was.  

I think that the IID Hurry is one of the best defense planes in the hanger.  My Opinion.

Math, the GAU8/A Avenger would be nice.  

Karaya2