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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: VFJACKAL on May 02, 2001, 09:11:00 PM
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What is it exactly you "Good Pilots" want?...
You want all us fairly sucky pilots just to quit?.
How bout we all get in our "Perked Chogs" or "Nik Dweeb Plane" and gather in one place , straight and level , and allow you just to blow our suckey tulips out of the sky?
Better yet..How bout all us guys that don't fly as well as you ACES just quit. Then you ACES can just have a big bellybutton gang bang.
I didn't fly the F4U1C that much..check my stats and youll see. Bout the only time was when I was Carrier Ops and couldnt fly what I wanted to from there.
Alot of you mouthy oletimers seem to forget that you onced SUCKED at the flying game to. Oh..Maybe a few of ya were good from the get go but for the most part you all sucked for a bit. You wanted to fly a plane that would help you as well. Or did you all get online in a G10 or whatever B&Z plane you flew and just rip things up. I doubt it.
If it aint your thing then you damn it. Typical of why todays scociety is the way it is.
"My way is the right way no matter what or who or how it affects those around me" "They are below me anyway" "They all suck and I am God" "I AM THE ANSWER"...
Doubt that most of you know the roll rates and all that crap from a real plane. AND if you do...how the hell can you compare it to a damn computer game. My joystick may be different..My connection..My Puter!!!
Oh wait...that isnt right...I forget..You rocket scientist guys know everything. My bad.
Bottom line is if you don't like it...or it kills ya...then PERK it or run off the guys that like it..then they'll get rid of it. Hope HTC sees all of you lil bellybutton cry babies for just that...CRY BABIES...Guess whatever plane is next will not be long off the hit list...Bet it aint no LW plane bu god...they are the answer to online sims. They are the RULERS of the sky...My bad again..I forget this isn't a game..Its real life...LW is the best...my apoligies before I am sent off to a land far far away....And made to do bad things to the sheep....
My 30.00 bought me this bb and a place to post this opinion and this rant..Don't like it...to bad...Let me say it now to all the flamers so I dont post again in this thread again....BITE ME YA WHINER
Now SHUT UP AND FLY.............Jackal
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Jackal,
Two points.
1. Don't let this thing get you down. This is a great game and very enjoyable recreation if you approach it that way.
2. What they want is for every player to do as they say. (BTW, some of the most vocal are not the "best pilots.") Ignore it, it's your $30; pick a plane, learn it some, have a blast. Next tour, pick another.
Don't get all wrapped up in this. It's still a game.
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I want drugs and lots of 'em!
Atleast that way I'll THINK I'm a good pilot!!!!!
-SW
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Reliance on the chog is what is keeping you from developing the skills that would stop you from posting such a world record whine.
Most of the guys you would consider good pilots never got that way flying chogs.
Your post is one of the best testements to the perking of the thing that could be made.
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Great stuff Jackal, up there with Hazed's or Grunherz' greatest hits. Thanks for the laugh! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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lol I take offense to that funked, mine are much better...
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Ahhh...why not...First off I don't RELY on the chog...stats prove that...hell I don't rely on anything more than luck..My skills are what I Put in to em...and whinning is not what this was..I was as Joe Friday says stating......
The facts...just the facts (as I see em)
And this game is not my life...its my fun...I'll play anyway...I don't let this game get me down...I have WAY more important things in LIFE to deal with...it was an opinion....
The facts are a bunch whinned and won...just kinda makes me wonder whats next thats all. Some seem to whine about getting boomed and zooomed. Some whine cuz that cant get a fight at 25k. Others...like me...could care less..just play and have fun...Then theres the one that I stated in my post that want it their way...Nothing more than that...
Just typical crap....should have known it from the get go....
but then again....Really...who the hell cares..Im here...flying and having fun with my squaddies...and yall aint.........Later
P.S. Thanks TOAD...I wont..and you are right...Later
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VFJackal, you got a plane that is identical FM wise in the F4U-D, and you got a plane that scored more than 1000 kills a day on the old map available for less perkies than a decent pilot can get on one sortie with the G2.
The perk system is in place for unbalancing plane, and the chog is/was just that. There's just no arguing with this, so it ain't a whine.
I hope HTC perk more planes, including my 109G10.
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Sorry Grun. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Jackal relax buddy! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I was here before the chog was introduced and no one single feature has had such a dramatic impact on what was once a great combat simulator. But alas HTC doesnt want a combat sim, they want a dweebfest where dweebs can run nakedly through the park barking their inane bark. Hence the introduction of every dweebs wet dream, the Chog.
Its not about this, or that. Its about the other thing.
Also, the price needs to come down.
Y
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PERK PILOTS NOT PLANES!!!!!!
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For those of you without the patience to read Jackal's post, I have taken the liberty of paraphrasing it:
Originally posted by VFJACKAL:
What is it exactly you "Good Pilots" want?... WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! How bout all us guys that don't fly as well as you ACES just quit. WAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!! "They all suck and I am God" "I AM THE ANSWER"... WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Oh wait...that isnt right...I forget..You rocket scientist guys know everythingWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!
Jackal
Somebody took away his little friends toys so now they have to try and learn how to use ACM and he got a little upset.
HTC have warned for ages that the chog would be perked and now they have made good on the promise. Why all the whining? If you can't afford 7 or 8 perkies to fly why do you care what plane you are in? You obviously aren't killing anything anyway...
My $0.02.
Hammer Head
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P.S. The only thing he said which I agree with was "Shut up and fly".
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I think what Jackal is trying to say is that the perk system is BS, not the fact that the Chog got perked.
From what I gather the Perk system was devised when there were smaller numbers of participants in the game and everyone flew the same AC......so HT decided to create the perk and make others fly in other AC. Is that right or wrong???
Another point Jackal is making, at least seems to me, is that we pay 30 bucks a month so we should be able to fly what we want when we want. He also nails the fact that there are two different sides to this debate. The guys that want things their way and everyone to conform and those that want it their way and just do it on their own. I am a Texican so, like Jackal, I don't like anyone telling me what I can or can not do, especially where my money going into someone else's pocket is concerned.
Since we are all paying customers not one of us above the other should have the influence with HT over another paying customer.
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Originally posted by Jebo44:
From what I gather the Perk system was devised when there were smaller numbers of participants in the game and everyone flew the same AC......so HT decided to create the perk and make others fly in other AC. Is that right or wrong???
Wrong.
Another point Jackal is making, at least seems to me, is that we pay 30 bucks a month so we should be able to fly what we want when we want. He also nails the fact that there are two different sides to this debate. The guys that want things their way and everyone to conform and those that want it their way and just do it on their own. I am a Texican so, like Jackal, I don't like anyone telling me what I can or can not do, especially where my money going into someone else's pocket is concerned.
So, since you pay $30 a month, don't you think its unfair that sometimes when you log in your country has no radar, or your favourite field only has 25% fuel? That puts just as much restriction on what you can fly as any perk point scheme. I suppose you COULD take off in a 190A5 with 25% fuel .. you'd have just enough to reach maybe 10000ft before having to RTB again.
Since we are all paying customers not one of us above the other should have the influence with HT over another paying customer. [/b]
The first thing you've said that I absolutely agree with.
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Originally posted by Yeager:
But alas HTC doesnt want a combat sim, they want a dweebfest where dweebs can run nakedly through the park barking their inane bark.
Y
Is it okay to fly naked?
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What we want? Well, I tell you...
We want respect. We have been flying for a long time and have learned to shoot well and do magnificent air combat maneuvers that make our enemies go dizzy. We have flown planes we like even if they are not the best ones available. We have spend atleast hundreds of dollars (some maybe thousands) to become as good as we are. We have fought our way to the top.
Now some kiddies think they should have right to fly every plane (when actually they would fly only one, the best one) just because their mommy pays 30$ per month to HTC.
Not so you arsewipes! This is a real world where you must earn priviledges! If you want to fly everything you are going to work for it! That 30$ gives you a change to be something, it does not buy you respect and certainly no priviledges! You must earn them.
Somebody will always be the weakling, that is just a nature of the law. You dont like being weakling. You would like to hide your incompetence to gray sea of other weaklings, all with same rights and priviledges. You dont like priviledges because you know you haven't earned any because you are so incompetent and your lack of priviledges would expose you to others who could see your real talents.
Complaining about 1C getting perked is truly pathetic. It is like admitting that you need a superplane to be mediocre pilot you really are. You admit that you are a weakling (the guy in your unit that always gets in trouble and need others to help you out) that just cannot survive on level playing field, you need all the help you can get. But worst of all you don't feel a bit ashamed by doing it.
Where is you self respect? Doesn't it mean anything to you? Doesn't it bother you at all when you think that others think you are a weakling, the weakest link?
This is not a shrecking kindergarten! Maybe elsewhere you can hide behind you mothers skirt but not here! If you cannot survive on fair fight you can blame yourself and only yourself! You have to live with knowledge that when you get to tought spot you wont survive it unlike those who has been trough hell and high water with their crappy planes! I guess you can always think you have excuse to do badly because you dont have your extra special plane you somehow earned by doing nothing and retain atleast a bit self respect...
Bunch of studmuffingots.
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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Just as Toad put it, Errr it's a frikken game chaps. Treat it as such.
By all means have a rant against the self appointed aristocracy, but do remember you only arm those you despise and unless your a champion arselicker or a subscriber to the fan club/cheerleader squad you kinda only have the choices of:
Paying and playing, and being happy with that.
Or keep your A$60 and play something else.
Free choice sometimes isn't such a difficult thing.
Tronsky
BRIAN: There's no pleasing some people.
EX-LEPER: That's just what Jesus said, sir
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funked? please explain (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Jochen
I am pretty sure you have respect among the people you began with here. There is no
doubt from my side also that you gained your skills working hard, it took a lot
of time, money and efforts as well.
However, the way you are expressing that will not bring you much respect of
new coming community, this kind offense is a bad teacher - just in case you wanted
to open somebody's eyes on this game, this life and this community of-course. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
And what is this game without those newbees (read -- customers) ?
<S> Leon
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What a load of crap.
No one is telling anyone what to fly. Just what the perk point cost for doing so is.
This is like the first day of someone quitting smoking...man they get squeaky.
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well... by no means am i saying I'm a "good" pilot but I have been around sims awhile...
I have and will have enough perks to fly the Chog every sortie forever. How is me killing newbies in a Chog every sortie good for the game?
How is me flying a Chog every sortie going to give me "respect" LOL... I don't want anyones 'respect' particularly but most of all not by gaming some idiotic perk system.
Get rid of the idiotic perk system.
lazs
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I think I've just seen the best example for the use of Valume in my entire life. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Respect? Bah, it's just a game. Shaddup and fly.
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Originally posted by lazs:
Get rid of the idiotic perk system.
lazs
And replace it with WHAT?
Separate arenas? 40k mountain ranges separating one arena into 3 arenas?
An RPS?
There are, on average, about 30 guys online each night I fly. So tell me lazs how your idea of 3 (or more) separate arenas in one map is going to help those of us who do not fly in US primetime?
Or is it only YOUR self-interest that matters?
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Jackal,
Although you are complaining about the "Whiney Aces" your post was a little whiney too.
That being said, I understand your post but can just say that there are plenty other planes in AH which are just as good as if not better than the F4U-1C. La7's (once you get used to the guns) are a beast IMO. My personal favorite is the Mustang.
To tell the truth tho, I kinda miss all the Chogs in the arena. They were an easy kill in a mustang. All these Niks now are a lot tougher to kill.
-Ding
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jekyl.... people go where the numbers are. By your logic... If there are only thirty people on then there should only be 3 fields or so because haveing 20-30 will mean that there will only be one at every field. See my point? With an early war area... people will not go there if there is no one in it. We will be no worse off. Or, most will go there that day/hour/sortie. It will work out. Some people will of course, allways avoid the "crowd" no matter whatr the numbers.
lazs
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Actually it would nto be a bad thing at all to include rank in the perking equation.
Just for example:
Pilot ranked 1-99 pays:
0 perks *10 for early war planes
5 perks *10 for early mid planes
10 perks *10 for early late planes
Pilot ranked 100-199 pays:
0 perks *9 for early war planes
5 perks *9 for early mid planes
10 perks *9 for early late planes
Pilot ranked 200-999 pays:
0 perks *8 for early war planes
5 perks *8 for early mid planes
10 perks *8 for early late planes
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Pilot ranked 900+ pays:
0 perks *1 for early war planes
5 perks *1 for early mid planes
10 perks *1 for early late planes
We might have much more balanced fights...
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Punishing pilots that are good is most stupid idea I have heard for sometime.
That would cause many to fly as poorly as they could since they would know that flying better would make planes more costly to them.
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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Originally posted by Jochen:
What we want? Well, I tell you...
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Complaining about 1C getting perked is truly pathetic. It is like admitting that you need a superplane to be mediocre pilot you really are.
Bunch of studmuffingots.
lol jochen, kinda pathetic that people with supposadly great skill whinned incessantly till Chog was perked, that is whats pathetic. they couldnt handle the plane cause it was kickin thier ass, so they whinned till it was perked. yep i flew Chog and other planes too, and i also had a almost 3 to 1 K/D vs it. people who squeak/whinned about chog are nuthing but plane racist and got thier way. i wana hear u yap when your fav plane gets perked.
the pilots who loudly gloat here n channel 1 about chog perked are truely pathetic.
whels
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We had some 400 kills or right around there in the F4U-1c brady finished in the DJ top for that category. I had 144 kills in it. I used it from the CV 95% of the time. I was not whining about it being uber, but that it was so frequent you ran into it. It was perked because of usage, and 27K in kills for a tour you don't find anything wrong with that? I think attacking people and saying oh go learn ACM is hogshit.
I am glad it was perked, I don't care if people whine and cry about it either. It is 8 perk points and that is a far cry for what I have to pay to fly a Ta-152. Considering only 50 more F4's were made then that plane. Keep spewing out these taunts or verbal abuses to others I really don't care. When the MA becomes somewhat balanced I will be happy.
Dear Abby might listen to your whines but we don't care to anymore.
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Jeckyll for your two points:
If I am wrong then explain to me why I am. Just don't say "WRONG" to me that sounds like you just disagree but can not answer the question.
Fuel limitation and radar being down are things that yo would experience in a real life war, NOT a perk system.
Jochen this is for you:
Lets say you buy a house on a block. I am your next door neighbor. Now let's say I come over and tell you you WILL respect me because I have lived here longer, I know the neighborhood so forth and so on......what are you going to say? With your eliquance I think I know all ready. In the real world you don't earn privilages you pay for them. You earn money so that you have the privelage to buy cable modem....see how that works? For the rest of your post I will not acknowledge because all you do is talk like one of those kindergarten kids you made an example of.
I pay my 30 bucks so I can play any and all part of the game that I feel the need for, and to have fun. IMHO the perk system is discriminatory. To me it does not work. You only want to make the lesser pilots at a disadvantage so you can feel superior.
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Jackal
balance... it's all about balance.
You can still fly the chog without even scoring a single kill.. you get free perkies to start a tour with.
Besides, you can fly it, I can fly it.. anyone can.. and it's not THE best plane in the MA anyway.
The only way to be really 'fair' with respect to aircraft types against each other is to make all the FM's the same but with different skins.. hehe.. now what fun would that be?
just be patient, your skills will improve.
your kills will go up. your frustration will decrease.
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Originally posted by Jebo44:
Lets say you buy a house on a block. I am your next door neighbor. Now let's say I come over and tell you you WILL respect me because I have lived here longer, I know the neighborhood so forth and so on......what are you going to say? With your eliquance I think I know all ready.
I would punch ya in the face kick ya in the jimmy, and say get the fuc out of my house. I'll respect ya when your wife stops coming over for a humpfest.
Is that to convincing?
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Just a reader
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Originally posted by Jebo44:
Jeckyll for your two points:
If I am wrong then explain to me why I am. Just don't say "WRONG" to me that sounds like you just disagree but can not answer the question.
Fuel limitation and radar being down are things that yo would experience in a real life war, NOT a perk system.
Jochen this is for you:
Lets say you buy a house on a block. I am your next door neighbor. Now let's say I come over and tell you you WILL respect me because I have lived here longer, I know the neighborhood so forth and so on......what are you going to say? With your eliquance I think I know all ready. In the real world you don't earn privilages you pay for them. You earn money so that you have the privelage to buy cable modem....see how that works? For the rest of your post I will not acknowledge because all you do is talk like one of those kindergarten kids you made an example of.
I pay my 30 bucks so I can play any and all part of the game that I feel the need for, and to have fun. IMHO the perk system is discriminatory. To me it does not work. You only want to make the lesser pilots at a disadvantage so you can feel superior.
Actually, in a real war environment, you didn't fly the plane you wanted. You were assigned to a squad and you got assigned a plane. You learned how to fly the plane your squad was assigned to the best of your ability. If your squad got a new model, great! You adapted to the newer and better aircraft.
As for the newer people being discriminated against, I'm pretty sure that's how it went in the real squads. I don't think the new guy would get the better performing planes in the squad, the senior ranking personnel did.
IMO, the CHog was perked not directly because of it's 4 Hispanos, but because it was accounting for a disproportionate amount of kills in the MA. In the eyes of HTC it was an imbalance to the arena. The fact that it does fly pretty well and has the 4 Hispanos is why so many people were flying it. HTC saw that, decided they wanted more diversity in their arena, so they perked the plane. I find it very hard to believe that the plane was perked because of people whining about the turbolaser Hispanos and the numerous HO's on this board.
Personally, I did better against CHogs and Nikis than I did against Spits (in terms of K/D). Of course, I just plain suck, so my stats don't really count for much. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Wlfgng:
.. you get free perkies to start a tour with.
What?!?!? Since when?
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Jochen,
Need to tone it down bud...I may be old enuff to be your daddy..in which case you if ever talked to me like that in real life you'd get an bellybutton whoopin..that respect you want...Kiss off...You get none from me..I don't hide behind my mommas skirt..I didn't fly the DAMN CHOG that much...and don't care that the damn thing was perked..My Squad mates don't bail my bellybutton out often either. You my friend have got an attitude and ego big as the state I live in. You missed the friggin point all together....But what a shock......Points in here are often not gotten.
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Posted by Nifty
Actually, in a real war environment, you didn't fly the plane you wanted. You were assigned to a squad and you got assigned a plane. You learned how to fly the plane your squad was assigned to the best of your ability. If your squad got a new model, great! You adapted to the newer and better aircraft.
Well Yeah I know that is how it worked but I also know that 99% of the time the Americans did not fly Japanese planes and vise versa.
What I am getting at is from your post should we have six seperate super power countries so it will seem more real life, by only having those planes assigned to the corresponding countries???
I see your point and it is a good one. However I still believe the perk system does not work. I might be right and I might be wrong, but it is just my opinion.
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OK, This is the last time I post on this subject. It has nothing to do with respect or honour for the pilots that have been here from day one.(no disrepect intended) I have recieved help from many. It doesn't matter how many perk points a plane cost. Saving perk points doesn't kill people. Nothing we do in this GAME kills people. Spend some time with the people that mean something to you. And if the people that mean something to you are in AH, by all means respect and listen to what they have to say.
THIS IS JUST A GAME.
Play it and enjoy it, shoot your friends down, or let them shoot you down; but ya don't die!
A meager opinion from a hick in GA.
blutic
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Originally posted by Jochen:
Punishing pilots that are good is most stupid idea I have heard for sometime.
That would cause many to fly as poorly as they could since they would know that flying better would make planes more costly to them.
Thanks for making it to the top of your list Jochen (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Would you really try to fly bad and get killed just to get ranked lower and to get planes cheaper???? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/redface.gif) Is the plane cost all that you are after?
The better pilots have a LOT of perks in storage, the newbies have practically none. Good pilots can still kill in just about any planes and earn more perks while doing it in early planes. Maybe the cost differences in my suggestion are too big, but REALLY... If a newbie pays 10 perks for some ride, it should not be that bad for a top pilot to pay at leat 50 for the same ride. Early war stuff would still be free for all.
Just to point out where I stand in this, I have more than 1000 fighter perks and the amount is NOT decreasing.
My suggestion was again just another way of trying to encourage the use of early war planes at least SOMETIMES !!!! Durn frustruating to see some of the top guns sit like glued in nikis.
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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Perk points and planes are rewards for being succesful in game. If you punish good pilots with pricier perk planes the whole idea of rewarding for doing well gets messed up.
Jackal... You are pikachu and I am your master!
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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OMG, another -1C thread!
I post pretty much the same here as I posted to the last one.
Newbies:
Welcome to a fun environment, and try to disregard most of the posts on the BBS. There are some great guys in here, despite the flaming that goes on in here. As for planes, I recommend you start out in the N1K or the Spit MkIX, they are the easiest to start with. The F4U-1D is also a good choice. All have excellent handling and good firepower.
Oldies: :-)
Jesus, let these guys get into the game, pls, before flaming them to hell. We are supposed to know better. Try to explain to them how to behave instead of killing their posts. Lead by example.
Personally, I started out in the F4U-1C, since it offered me the best chances of survival, and the best chances to get the occasional kill. If you check out my scores the last 2 tours, you'd see that in 14, I flew the Chog only, then gradually changed to the -1D, then to the plane I love, the P-51D (don't take this too literally pls :-) )
I think most people could do this. Start with an "easy plane", then move on to something that takes "more skill" to fly.
Lets get up and fly, shall we. The more in MA, the merrier.
Regards
Hogni "Darling" Gylfason
2nd Lt. 332nd FG "Flying Mongrels" http://peterson.gm.is/ (http://peterson.gm.is/)
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Originally posted by Jochen:
Perk points and planes are rewards for being succesful in game.
That is one way to view perks. IMO they are not rewards... they are preventive measures. They prevent using superior planes too often and thus balance the action.
Better pilots get more perks, thus they need to be prevented harder (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) This would just add more challenge to the better guys. Maybe one should be able to score more points (not perk points) when flying a costly plane (if they stay alive and land it)... that would be a reward.
Perks are no reward, at least not to me. I hardly ever fly the perk planes. Hardly ever... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) got so pissed of the AerialQuake yesterday that I joined in the chog spraying contest with equal suicidal frenzy. A few pills later got over it though.
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Sling.. I was under the impression that we all start with like 35 perkies in each category at the start of a TOD.
I could definately be wrong though. I haven't been using many of mine so they've kind of piled up .
[This message has been edited by Wlfgng (edited 05-04-2001).]
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Haven't been using many of mine either. Everytime I think I'm grabbing a tempest, I inadvertantly grab a typhoon.
Some two months later I have 1500 fighter perk points to spare.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Jebo44:
Posted by Nifty
What I am getting at is from your post should we have six seperate super power countries so it will seem more real life, by only having those planes assigned to the corresponding countries???
I see your point and it is a good one. However I still believe the perk system does not work. I might be right and I might be wrong, but it is just my opinion.
Nope, I wasn't recommending anything, nor condemning anything. Was just pointing out that the realism argument is almost always a selective one. Here is a very generic example, and isn't point at anyone in particular. "This was realistic in terms of WWII, but doesn't need to be in the game for some reason, so complain about it" and later "Well, that needs to be in the game because it was realistic in terms of WWII, so don't complain about it" Once again, not pointing this at anyone in particular, cuz we're probably all guilty of this at some point! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
And Jebo, yup, it's your opinion, and it's a valid opinion. I hope you did not feel my posts were meant to belittle your opinion in any way. Oh, and stop shooting me down!!! Last tour, Nifty had 0 kills on Jebo44, Jebo44 had 4 kills on Nifty. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/redface.gif)
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Nifty,
I appreciate your ability to post in a mature manner (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) It allows things to be a debate and not a pissing contest. The issue of how realistic things should be is a very combersum issue in the least.
I was just in the right place at the right time and I WAS LUCKY!
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I want a Mosquito FB.MkVI Series 2.
He did ask what we wanted. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Oh, wait. He asked what "you good guys want?" and I'm not good.
Nevermind
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Bring the Mosquito FB.MkVI Series 2 to Aces High!!!
Sisu
-Karnak
[This message has been edited by Karnak (edited 05-04-2001).]