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Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Tumor on December 20, 2002, 07:55:51 AM
Just sayin.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Ripsnort on December 20, 2002, 08:15:57 AM
With all due respect, Tumor, its a good time to be a flight sim enthusiast.  There are many competing sims out on the market.  One that is sick of moderation has the free will to move onto something else..though I suspect one might find the same type of moderation in other sims..or might find just the opposite, not enough moderation.  Either way, you decide, with your checkbook, what is tolerable, and what is not.  I hope you make the right decision (and stay)
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Tumor on December 20, 2002, 08:40:27 AM
Let me clarify....

  I'm sick of it on both sides.  As for with AH? Well, comparatively speaking, they're ok (lol).  I have all the latest flight-sims save that Strike Fighter thing.  Been online in AH maybe 3 times in the last 3 weeks....  That's a "different but the same" issue.  Moderators and people squeaking about moderator's only adds to my suprising (I haven't figured it out yet) recent lack of enthusiasm for AH.  My appreciation of, and wish to continue supporting HTC along with my (hopefull) knowledge the "addiction" will return keeps my account active.  Based solely on the general attitude and actions of the community as a whole of late... I'd have walked awhile ago.

....I can't believe I've even considered the cancel button, I don't even know where it is.  I need a freekin shrink!
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Dago on December 20, 2002, 09:53:09 AM
I have never been muted, and I am glad AH has both the language filter and moderators in the game.

When someone whines about being muted or "moderated", the whine just tells me that the whiner is an immature juvenile foul mouthed bellybutton who seems to think his need to act like an bellybutton overrides everyone elses desire to enjoy a fun game and being part of a decent community.

Tumor, I hope you find the fun in the game again, but also it's natural in life to find yourself moving on in search of something new and fresh.  Sometimes though, it is outside stresses that effect your preceptions of other things.  

Taking a break for a few weeks or so often helps alot of us, give it a try, and ignore the whiners. :)

dago
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 20, 2002, 09:56:45 AM
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Originally posted by Dago
IWhen someone whines about being muted or "moderated", the whine just tells me that the whiner is an immature juvenile foul mouthed bellybutton who seems to think his need to act like bellybutton overrides everyone elses desire to a decent community.
dago


yanno if you weren't so intent on blowing that hot air out your bellybutton and actually read what people are "whining" about, you might find that your rose colored glasses are in need of a new prescription.

just sayin'

Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Dago on December 20, 2002, 11:19:44 AM
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yanno if you weren't so intent on blowing that hot air out your bellybutton and actually read what people are "whining"


I read what he wrote, and understand completly what he is getting at, he is sick of guys who complain about being moderated or muted.  If you were not so eager to attack, you might understand my reply.

I am not defending whiners, but whenever muting/moderation comes up, I jump in to show support for it and for HTC.  Face it, without the controls in place, immature fools like you Shane would have driven many players away.

Tumor is a class act and a good person, too bad there arent more like him in the game, and less of your type.

Dago
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Steve on December 20, 2002, 11:28:03 AM
I don't know as a certainty if he has, but if anyone is capable of driving players away it is Shane. He can do it without crossing the line as far as vulgarity goes.  This guy flies his la7 close to an enemy base, furballs low, gets some kills but eventually gets caught by numbers then has the audacity to complain about being gangbanged.  I have to wonder, is Shane so stupid as to blame anyone but himself for this?  We see it almost every day, this whine.... and it goes on for many minutes.  It's as if someone else has decided how/where Shane will fly his plane.  As Shane matures,(hopefully) he will come to realize that it's only his fault he gets ganged.. no one elses.  in the mean time, I pray as every update is released that there is a "Mute Shane" button.  I have only squelched one team member... I am asking the moderators to be MORE agressive in their muting.. not less.

Oh and Shane.. as for those facestudmuffins.. if you want lessons on how to avoid HO's.. I supply them no charge just to eliminate the whine there.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Tumor on December 20, 2002, 12:55:13 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
I read what he wrote, and understand completly what he is getting at, he is sick of guys who complain about being moderated or muted.  If you were not so eager to attack, you might understand my reply.

I am not defending whiners, but whenever muting/moderation comes up, I jump in to show support for it and for HTC.  Face it, without the controls in place, immature fools like you Shane would have driven many players away.

Tumor is a class act and a good person, too bad there arent more like him in the game, and less of your type.

Dago



Appreciate that Dago (and Shane) but before anyone picks sides for me... it's both sides I'm tired of (among other things).  From all the reading I've done on the subject of moderators and seperately, the complaints against them, I can't take a hard line for either.  The need for a moderator speaks volumes to the root of the cause!  On one hand you have moderators who've been overzealous at times, and on the other hand some folks deserve to be muted then fire off unwarranted squeaking about it (that to me is a whiner, highly subjective of course).....  Hell I've NEVER been muted by a moderator or even recieved a comment, guess it just chaps my butt that it has to happen at all.  

This is a reflection (IMO) of a generally hostile atmosphere that seems more often than not to override the freindly "good-times" intended nature of the game.... ch1 squelch lately doesn't seem to do much to help as the country in-fighting seem's to be at an all time high too, and when I find MYSELF joining in and acting like a dillweed I get fairly well irked about it and my fun comes to a speedy end.

Ya know... I think a lot of folks (myself included) could learn allot from guys like Math and Silat when it comes to attitude.

I think I'll log on tonight and crash a 163 or somethin... maybe that'll get me back in the mood!
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Tumor on December 20, 2002, 12:57:38 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
I don't know as a certainty if he has, but if anyone is capable of driving players away it is Shane. He can do it without crossing the line as far as vulgarity goes.  This guy flies his la7 close to an enemy base, furballs low, gets some kills but eventually gets caught by numbers then has the audacity to complain about being gangbanged.  I have to wonder, is Shane so stupid as to blame anyone but himself for this?  We see it almost every day, this whine.... and it goes on for many minutes.  It's as if someone else has decided how/where Shane will fly his plane.  As Shane matures,(hopefully) he will come to realize that it's only his fault he gets ganged.. no one elses.  in the mean time, I pray as every update is released that there is a "Mute Shane" button.  I have only squelched one team member... I am asking the moderators to be MORE agressive in their muting.. not less.

Oh and Shane.. as for those facestudmuffins.. if you want lessons on how to avoid HO's.. I supply them no charge just to eliminate the whine there.


See?  There ya go.  Why not just use the squelch command rather than throw gas on the fire?
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 20, 2002, 01:15:44 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
immature fools like you Shane would have driven many players away.
Dago


that is the most fallacious roadkill i've seen on these boards in quite a while..



i bet i *help* more people in one week with the game than you do over several tours.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Steve on December 20, 2002, 01:16:09 PM
Oh boy...  geez.

I was giving Shane toejam dude..the stereotypical stuff he always hears... so relax.  I've told Shane directly that i have no personal issue w/ him..I guess I should have told you too, Tumor.  :)
When I was rook, I frequently found myself in the same area as Shane..we both like to go the the base where attacking planes are upping rather than wait for them at our defending base. He was a reliable teammate...now that I'm bish,  I'm sure I'll run into him..I can hardly wait to be called a ganger dweeb.


Steve the Vulcher,  Cherry Picker, Ganger, Runner, P51 Dweeb.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 20, 2002, 01:18:46 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
blahblahblahblahschizophrenicvoice#3speakingblahblahblah



lol steve, you couldn't ACM your way out of an air castle.

Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Virage on December 20, 2002, 01:38:37 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
that is the most fallacious roadkill i've seen this side of Voss.


I know he is right about 1 ex AH'er.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 20, 2002, 01:47:23 PM
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Originally posted by Virage
I know he is right about 1 ex AH'er.


it's quite possible the numerous potty mouths, the bigots, the nation slamming and ch1 politicos might have contributed to such a person's motivation for leaving the game. more than likely it was also real life stuff or a lack of general interest that was the underlying factor along with the above.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 20, 2002, 01:52:17 PM
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Originally posted by Oedipus
How did that Aerosmith song go....

"It's Shane's World, Shane's World
It's Harassing Time, It's Expectorant
It's Shane's World, Shane's World
It's Putrid Text, It's Diaha-rectal-rant"

....party on tard!


i see another ankle humping slobberdonkey with blinders on and his head up his 6.

what color is the sky on your world today?
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: paulieb on December 20, 2002, 01:56:41 PM
<------ pulls out lawn chair and cooler and cracks a cold one
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Tumor on December 20, 2002, 02:01:53 PM
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Originally posted by paulieb
<------ pulls out lawn chair and cooler and cracks a cold one



Hey THERE's and idea!!
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Steve on December 20, 2002, 02:22:47 PM
Shane that Air castle thing is a major retread,  as you seem to think you are the most clever and talented person in this game, surely you can come up with something better.  Besides, you are an expert on how I fly,  you've shot me down exactly once since I started playing this game, congrats.. you're incredible.. SO much better than everyone else.
Oh, and I've shot you down twice in the same amount of time.  As beligerent as you seem to insist on being, you're probably convinced I HO'd AND gangbanged you each time   LOL  Maybe they were proxy kills... ya,  that's it huh?  
Shane you'er the best pilot to ever play this game, we should all emulate you.  I mean we ALL believe you when you say things like: "I fly the La7 so I can catch runners."  LOL
Shane, you're wound way too tight... when you implode, I doubt there will be much more left than a smoking crater where you once stood.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Bodhi on December 20, 2002, 03:06:11 PM
Tumor, yeah sometimes the moderator thing can screw up, but look below, imagine if we let oxygen thieves like him run rampant in AH without moderation....

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Originally posted by Shane
yanno if you weren't so intent on blowing that hot air out your bellybutton and actually read what people are "whining" about, you might find that your rose colored glasses are in need of a new prescription.

just sayin'




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Originally posted by Shane
that is the most fallacious roadkill i've seen on these boards in quite a while..  



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Originally posted by Shane
i see another ankle humping slobberdonkey with blinders on and his head up his 6.

what color is the sky on your world today?
 





:rolleyes:
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 20, 2002, 03:39:38 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Tumor, yeah sometimes the moderator thing can screw up, but look below, imagine if we let oxygen thieves like him run rampant in AH without moderation....

:rolleyes:


how's  therapy for that phobia coming along?

i notice this little circle is mostly... you... steve...oedi and occasionally dago and umm one of his MOL squaddies, with the infrequent MAW.

go! go drum up more support!

and while ya'll there... puleasssseeee try and acquire some ACM skills.

Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 20, 2002, 03:43:13 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
blahblahblahthisisallaboutcrumbblahblahblah


isn't it?


oh, and dago... you really need to *read* other threads about the topic of moderators.  no one is becrying getting muted for being a foul mouthed ass... they're remarking on how inconsistent and apparently playing favcorites at times, as well as a more noticable trend towards moderators having "smartass" attitudes of their own.

take the blinders off.  support for moderators is all well and fine if the system was working.  many think it's not.  it's all HTC's call of course, but if you actually read what people are "whining" about, you might come away with a different perception.

awww, who'm i kidding.... leave the blinders on.. including to those within your own squad.

Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Bodhi on December 20, 2002, 07:10:30 PM
:rolleyes:

It never seems to amaze me the lengths that some people will go... but hey atleast he edited out the more choise cussing between when he first posted his last two responses and their final appearence.

Thats progress!
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 20, 2002, 08:41:35 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
:rolleyes:

It never seems to amaze me the lengths that some people will go... but hey atleast he edited out the more choise cussing between when he first posted his last two responses and their final appearence.

Thats progress!


you always try and make reality fit with your skewed perceptions?

the edits were afterthoughts added.

love how you try and make things seem different than what they are, slobberdonkey.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: loser on December 20, 2002, 08:51:47 PM
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Originally posted by Tumor
Let me clarify....

  I'm sick of it on both sides.  As for with AH? Well, comparatively speaking, they're ok (lol).  I have all the latest flight-sims save that Strike Fighter thing.  Been online in AH maybe 3 times in the last 3 weeks....  That's a "different but the same" issue.  Moderators and people squeaking about moderator's only adds to my suprising (I haven't figured it out yet) recent lack of enthusiasm for AH.  My appreciation of, and wish to continue supporting HTC along with my (hopefull) knowledge the "addiction" will return keeps my account active.  Based solely on the general attitude and actions of the community as a whole of late... I'd have walked awhile ago.

....I can't believe I've even considered the cancel button, I don't even know where it is.  I need a freekin shrink!


Tumor i didnt read this whole thread, as i have a very short attention span regarding things that I dont care about. BUT....

If you didnt read these boards and just played the game, muting would be darn near a non-issue.  Don't let people crying about muting on this bbs get you down.  If you see a post with the word "mute" in it, avoid in like the obituatries in the morning paper, problem solved.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: VOR on December 20, 2002, 10:57:50 PM
Complain that something controversial you don't like is "gamey", but defend a controversial  act you participate in as "part of the game". Did I see something in there about skewed reality too?

Makes me wonder how many defense mechanisms this post alone will trigger...

ACM = "always complimenting myself".
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: culero on December 21, 2002, 01:54:06 AM
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Originally posted by Steve
Shane, you're wound way too tight... when you implode, I doubt there will be much more left than a smoking crater where you once stood.


I've been trying and trying lately to get folks to understand this, its really simple. But people just accuse me of trolling :confused:

Shane, being a female in real life, has a personality with many female traits. COME ON GUYS, THINK! How far would you get with your wives/gals/sisters/moms/aunts etc if you treated them and talked to them when they act irritable like you do Shane?

You're letting her male online persona ID fool you, and treating her like you treat one of the guys...AND THAT JUST WON'T WORK.

She's a gal, and the sooner you realize it and deal with it, the sooner we'll all be less exposed to some of the fallout :)

culero
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 21, 2002, 03:21:15 AM
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Originally posted by culero
I've been trying and trying lately to get folks to understand this, its really simple. But people just accuse me of trolling :confused:
She's a gal, and the sooner you realize it and deal with it, the sooner we'll all be less exposed to some of the fallout :)
culero


thankfully these slobberdonkeys are too short to hump anything higher than my ankle.

;)
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: culero on December 21, 2002, 05:59:38 AM
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Originally posted by Shane
thankfully these slobberdonkeys are too short to hump anything higher than my ankle.

;)



Yeah, I'll never understand how ewe manage those friggin platform stilt heels :p

culero
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: aGirl on December 21, 2002, 07:05:21 AM
Shane is the reason why i squelch ch1 in the MA as soon as i log in. Sure, there are others, but if one name sticks in my mind as an irritant, it's Shane's.
I miss being able to give an without going to the trouble to tuning to my opponent, and i hate the fact that someone might me and get no response, but i just couldn't stand wading through the piles of adolescent slagging.
Now i play without any communication with the other side and try to convince myself it's realistic...

Normally i wouldn't contribute to one of these saddening discussions but i saw this:
>>i notice this little circle is mostly... you... steve...oedi and occasionally dago and umm one of his MOL squaddies, with the infrequent MAW. <<
and thought i should point out that there are plenty of other people who find Shane's childishness irritating, but just roll their eyes and get on with the game. Or maybe there are some who just leave, who knows?
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 21, 2002, 07:45:41 AM
I'm *the* reason or representative of your reasoning behind squelching channel 1?

if it's the former, simply /.squelch , if it's the latter then there's way too much stuff on channel 1, i hardly monopolize it.  it can really scroll by at times so i'd suggest you learn to filter things out mentally like most people do. you're from AW, RR, even so i don't think based on what the text buffers were like in there that you're incapable of doing so.

say, didn't you change your handle from "agirl" to something else because you got tired of guys hitting on you all the time?
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Bodhi on December 21, 2002, 08:22:11 AM
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Originally posted by Shane
I'm *the* reason or representative of your reasoning behind squelching channel 1?


Doh, imagine that Shane, your infantile little remarks and bantering actually make you the culprit for atleast one squelch, my bet is there are quite a few more!


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Originally posted by Shane
if it's the former, simply /.squelch , if it's the latter then there's way too much stuff on channel 1, i hardly monopolize it.  it can really scroll by at times so i'd suggest you learn to filter things out mentally like most people do. you're from AW, RR, even so i don't think based on what the text buffers were like in there that you're incapable of doing so.


Yet again, you seem to feel that your $14.95 a month gives you the right to tell others how to spend their time on AH???  This arrogant philosophy of yours absolutely astounds me, as I am sure it does others.  The fact that a person is from AW RR means nothing, because the chat buffer in there, NEVER had the likes of your mindless meaderings injected on such a regular basis.  Take a hint bucko, regardless of whether you think it is 3 or 4 people picking at you over your behavior, it's not.  Many, many people are sick of your foolishness.  It is time for you to grow up and stop acting like a imbecile.


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Originally posted by Shane
say, didn't you change your handle from "agirl" to something else because you got tired of guys hitting on you all the time?


Why the hell should that matter Shane?  I feel sorry for her if she did have that experience.  It is great to see women in this arena, and if it weren't for the lack of hormonal control by some and the juvenile antics of those like you, there would probably be more.  Or wait, maybe you identify with her, could Culero be right?

Oh, I know you are going to come back with some name calling response about how it is your right to act like an arse, and something along the lines of my heritage and / or parents being freaks or some sexual inuendo along those lines.  But before you do, could someone please explain to me what the following mean?

- facestudmuffin

- slobber donkey

- ankle humping (can not figure what does that)

Sorry for my ignorance, just have been out of high school so long, can not fathom where that juvenile language has gone too...
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: culero on December 21, 2002, 11:06:44 AM
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Originally posted by aGirl
Shane is the reason why i squelch ch1 in the MA as soon as i log in. Sure, there are others, but if one name sticks in my mind as an irritant, it's Shane's.
I miss being able to give an without going to the trouble to tuning to my opponent, and i hate the fact that someone might me and get no response, but i just couldn't stand wading through the piles of adolescent slagging.
Now i play without any communication with the other side and try to convince myself it's realistic...



Dumb question - if this is so, why squelch the channel? Why not just Shane?

I think you *DO* have a good point, I just think you've allowed yourself to be provoked into singling out one person when in fact its more of a problem than that.

Wouldn't you agree that if you could add names to your own persistent squelch list that this problem would be solved?

~hint hint~ ;) ;)

culero (really believes in the concept of persistent squelch)
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Steve on December 21, 2002, 02:09:42 PM
I  hope Shane isn't saying that his smack talkin is a heritage of AW.  There was smack talking in AW but it was nothing like what Shane does here, unless it was by Shane himself.  There WAS a tradition in AW(fading in the end, lost completely on EA) of good sportsmanship and a friendly community.  Community...friendly.. respectful.  This claim about trash talking being a legacy of AW is pure roadkill.  It's true that in the last year or two that trash talking dimwits like shane were flooding the text buffer.  Before dullard children like shane became commonplace the smack talking that went on was clever, artful, and downright humorous.  Sometimes you'd have to read the message twice to catch the dig and more often than not the target of the jibe had a good laugh as well; not the feeling of being a target for a barrage of juvenile insults. Shane seems to think calling someone a slobberdonkey or an anklehumper is smacktalking. It's not at all smacktalking.  It's abuse and namecalling.. nothing more.  Using the same tired insults again and again ins't anything akin to smacktalking, it's simply the angry ranting of an unimagintive mind. I've thrown things at Shane, giving him the opportunity to come up with something approaching a clever response...all I get are things like "Learn ACM" (my fighter numbers make Shane's look like he belongs in the TA).  Bottom line here is that Shane lacks the ability to smack talk so he must rely on a small handful of insults and hope he can convince people he is a clever orator when in fact our community knows he falls far short.  I simply squelch the love muffin, in the past it was because he  was on my team and I didn't want to become negatively biased towards him. Now I do it to keep my text buffer from being filled with droll insults from a childlike mind.  New people that try the game don't "see Shane coming".  I wonder how many people have been put off by his tirades.  If Shane says his "smacktalking"  is a legacy of AW... he's quite sadly mistaken.
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Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 21, 2002, 02:16:47 PM
All dissent expressed here will be monitored and reported to moderators.  

Consider yourselves warned citizens! :D
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Esme on December 21, 2002, 02:38:23 PM
I'm all for reasonable moderation of forums. Lack of moderation at AGW is what caused me to leave that forum quite some time ago.  I just wish it were practical to moderate the yapping in the arenas at times, some of the childishly offensive nonsense some oiks come out with... (shakes head sadly).  This is one reason I'd prefer to be able to squelch ANY channel, so that if the Country channel (for instance) for the side I'm flying for has started to slide downhill, I dont have to have it waste space on my monitor.

Vive le moderation - en moderation! ;-)
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Shane on December 21, 2002, 03:09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
blahblahblahit'sallaboutcrumbisn'tit?blahblahblah


you're both putting words in my mouth, steve (mr. potty-mouth who gets muted for profanity), and painting a bogus picture of AW before it had it's plug pulled - oh, you mean the last 7 people there were all nice-nice.. i see.

lol... if you think you know ACM, you're welcome to ask me to the DA anytime - not that you would, because like your squaddie crumb you're much too afraid to leave the safety of a crowd/ack/alt.

and that's why you're humping my ankle, to defend poor widdle crumb's inability to get barely more than 2 kills per hour, and mine (and other's commentary on his lack of "skills".)  lol.

right, steve, this is what it's really all about when it comes to *you* stalking me on these boards along with the rest of the slobberdonkeys.

btw you need some original whine material yourself. yours are both repetitive as well as being typical noob whines.

and remember, mr potty mouth, vulgarity is the first refuge of the mediocre.  and it seems your posts are usually laced with them, as well as your ch1/2 buffers.

here, have a set of blinders, or would you prefer a mirror?
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Steve on December 21, 2002, 03:48:05 PM
Shane I know you can read, or at least have someone read these posts to you, but can you comprehend?  I'm not talking about the last people in AW... I'm talking about the first  and the many that joined in the years before your mommy let you log on to the internet (curse her for ever giving in).  Long before the likes of you came along to poison the text buffer with senseless insults.
You're right about one thing, I do get muted occasionally(been a while).  but when I deserve it, I quietly take my medicine.  You on the otherhand rant and whine ceaselessly about your mutes and popup warnings...such a child.  As far as putting words in your mouth.. I'd love to... but two things stop me.  1. People would know that it wasn't you doing the talking because your barrage of dull witted insults would cease. 2. Your foot is usually in the way.  What has Crumb got to do with the fact that you're a boor?
Are you talking about the time you switched sides to hunt Crumb w/ AKAK?   Ya, I killed AKAK a couple of times(I was winging Crumb), he had no effective wingie so he was at a disadvantage. and you were nowhere to be found...Crumb landed unscathed.  so I'm not really sure what your point is... it was long ago.. let it go, get over it.  Feel free to comment on how you perceive Crumb's skills, he can take care of himself.  I will say that he is a good wingie and a team player, a nice guy.  The things you say about my flying are way off base.. have no basis in fact..as I said before you've rarely encountered me.... you have no idea how I fly.  I don't fly in packs.. tend to fly alone actually....I don't want to compete w/ 6 or 7 other guys for a kill.  Anyway I digress. Shane... it is obvious by your miserable demeanor that you garner no joy from playing this game..your only reason for staying therefore must be that you get a sick thrill out of spreading your vitriol around.  one day HTC will have had their fill of you.. I'm confident your days are numbered.  People who offer the DA up are those who cannot defend their current position..
If vulgarity is the first refuge of the mediocre, surely the LA7 is the last.  Shane  do the community the only service you can.. leave. Ok child, time's up.  I have things to do... rant on  I'll be on to ther stuff.
Title: This muteing, moderator nonsense is getting old...
Post by: Tumor on December 21, 2002, 04:13:16 PM
I just bought Medieval Total Warfare.
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Post by: WldThing on December 21, 2002, 04:21:56 PM
Is it good Tumor? I've been thinking to buy it over the weekend..
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Post by: sling322 on December 21, 2002, 04:51:45 PM
I have spent more time playing that than flying in AH in the last 2 months.
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Post by: Grizzly on December 21, 2002, 06:24:33 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
I  hope Shane isn't saying that his smack talkin is a heritage of AW.


Be not cornfused

Smack talk is smack... nothing to be admired or enjoyed. The taunts that became legendary in AW came from players who had the imagination and talent to do it well, in a few words, without vulgarity or trash talk, and make it so funny it was a pleasure to behold.

Some legend wannabes try to make a name for themselves, alongside the likes of DoK, Slug and Holmes, by using cheap gutter talk lacking any imagination. It's a poor substitute.

The legends could say more in a few words than all the trash you see on channel 1 each night.
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Post by: Shane on December 21, 2002, 07:28:07 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
blahblahblahpotkettleblahblahblahcrumbblahblahblah


hmmmm, when was the last time you saw me "whine" in here about getting nailed by a moderator for vulgarity?

hmmm.... never.

i do participate in the moderator threads, sure, and i do at times question about how the process works and whether it's at times a bit heavy-handed, depending on particular moderator(s). a cursory reading of *others* whines, some seemingly valid, some not (IMHO) will give you food for thought. this is merely discussion on the board at which every opportunity you ankle humpers beat the drum and cry "mommy! mommy! make the bad man stop!!"

but, let's be up front,  about the ulterior motive to this ankle humping of yours - it's all about crumb.  no biggie, i could really care less about how he flies, he was an amusing squeak-toy going on and on about SPIES!!! and WE DON'T NEED YOUR KIND ON ROOKS SIDE for a while after I pretty much told him I gave a Knit a posrep for a little dweeb hunt.  lol.

btw, your stats are pretty revealing and indicate *you* could use a little TA time, as well as some DA time. (we'll do ponys, how about that?). doesn't it get a trifle boring milking enemy strats safely behind your own front to game your buff ranking? it sure does appear you could use some more practice jabo-ing that pony of yours.  you are a capable vulcher, i'll give you that.

so how about it? you wanna brush up on what ACM is and how to use it? DA? anytime. :)

of course you can try and "walk away" but you just know the next time you see me post, you'll be back humping my ankle like a good little bllinders wearing slobberdonkey.

you might wanna schedule a visit with an optemetrist about that myopia.
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Post by: Tumor on December 21, 2002, 07:37:05 PM
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Originally posted by WldThing
Is it good Tumor? I've been thinking to buy it over the weekend..


Seems pretty good.  A tough to learn... looks like that will be half the fun.  Not outstanding but I'd give it a good rate.
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Post by: Bodhi on December 21, 2002, 07:38:20 PM
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Originally posted by Grizzly
Smack talk is smack... nothing to be admired or enjoyed. The taunts that became legendary in AW came from players who had the imagination and talent to do it well, in a few words, without vulgarity or trash talk, and make it so funny it was a pleasure to behold.


Grizzly, well said.  I do miss the old days of good natured ribbing that was prevalent of AW DOS on GEnie, and the others...  I left AW because of the malarchy that became so prevalent on EA.  Most of the those thatr enjoyed the same left too...  how else would AH been formed had people like that not left.  

The other end of the spectrum here is what a few are trying to point out, yet one individual is consistently missing out.  We all know who I am talking of, Shane.  He seems to feel it is $ driven right to attempt to make everyone else around him sick of his playground antics.  I for one, have been guilty for getting into it with him on CH1 after I stupidly took his bait of an insult and followed suit.  But the "Bottomline Here" is that Shane, consistently and energetically insults and berates people to the point that I am, and most others, are sick of having to constantly squelch him.  Many have tried to get him to change his ways and just fly and enjoy, nothing is working...  is it possible to get HT to call his parents and have a word with them?  I am out of ideas, it just needs to end.  

Enuff said...
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Post by: Shane on December 21, 2002, 07:50:57 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
But the "Bottomline Here" is that Shane, consistently and energetically insults and berates people
Enuff said...


awwwww poor widdle fella... the phrase "lol gangers"
 "ta ---->" "silly HO dweeb" hurt you widdle feelings.

it's when i say that, and what you slobberdonkeys so conveniently ignore, is that the peanut gallery jumps on me with insults and comments of their own that i merely reply to.

often i don't even say anything. i'm quiet as much, if not more than i am vocal on ch1, and often am engaged with either friendly banter or helping others or busy on ch2 giving statreps.

because I called *you* a skill-less lamer dweeb joust warrior ackbunny once or twice (and you *are* one), you've made it *your* crusade to hump my ankle here.

awwwww....  here's your  milk. nappy nappy time for you.
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Post by: Bodhi on December 21, 2002, 09:29:37 PM
:rolleyes:

Thanks for proving my point Shane!

;)
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Post by: Grizzly on December 21, 2002, 09:37:58 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
I for one, have been guilty for getting into it with him on CH1 after I stupidly took his bait of an insult and followed suit.


That's really the problem. If folks wouldn't respond as they do...

1)  it could be laughed off

2)  the fun might be gone and he may stop doing it

3)  in the very least there would be less noise on chan 1

Your manhood isn't at stake here. Next time he taunts you, respond with a smilie face and a "hiyas shane". Or go duel him... it could be fun. He sounds like hell but is really a pretty square guy. But he sure is a stubborn fart!

(or should I say gal?)
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Post by: poopster on December 21, 2002, 09:41:41 PM
I squelched you quite a bit a couple of months back, you tend to go on and on. For awhile I don't think you ever died without an excuse. You've mellowed a bit.

I go along with your "it's the fight" premise, I do the same, although not with similar results. I subscribe to the "I've got seperation, I'm going back in" type of play.. It's fun.

Flying with a few squadies in Uterus on Friday night you kept coming in high in your lag cherry pickin.  Kept pickin on the same low little FM2 each time. I was along for the ride in a Spit V. Got your lunch handed to you 4 times in 45 minutes...

Not a word or an excuse on channel one. That's cool, we're "growing" :D

BTW if I'm drunk, I've been known to humpaleg...

But it has to be cheap beer..
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Post by: Bodhi on December 21, 2002, 09:47:11 PM
Grizzly,

I do not argue with him on CH1, just squelch when he starts in.  He is too busy proving what I already and 90% of the arena already knows about him for me to worry about it and waste my time on it.  It's  a lost cause as far as I can see, and am just counting the days until he oversteps the edge.  

Until then, he / she will remain a petty annoyance at best.  ;)

BTW, can u please tell me what a slobberdonkey is... that and facestudmuffin, both must be new highschool names, just unsure as to there pertinance.  Maybe I need to make a trip down to the playground to see why he uses it.

LOL :D
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Post by: Shane on December 21, 2002, 11:01:15 PM
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Originally posted by poopster
Flying with a few squadies in Uterus on Friday night you kept coming in high in your lag cherry pickin.  Kept pickin on the same low little FM2 each time. I was along for the ride in a Spit V. Got your lunch handed to you 4 times in 45 minutes...
Not a word or an excuse on channel one. That's cool, we're "growing" :D


see... this is what people are failing to get.... i was at that base furballing, multicon environment, base taking attempt even... i never say a word because in that situation anything goes.

it's when i'm a 1/3 or 1/2 sector away from the base, off the main flight route, just looking for a nice little 1 v 1 or 1 v 2 action, not bothering the base, and then bam! 3 4 5 come tearing after me or after i'm already busy with 1 or 2... that's when you'll see "lol lamer gangers" from me.  that 3,4,5 are also depriving the 1 or 2 of a good fight and/or learning experience.  it's just totally *unnecessary.* and then they "brag" about nailing "Shane" in that situation... lofl!

oh yeah, and those who bounce me, then either try and play joust warrior with the HO's (no biggie) *and* then take off running after *they* came for me and screwed it up... they'll get a "run away! flee! TA ---> " from me. hell of a big difference between extending and running with your tail tucked for the safety of ack/horde.

i don't randomly insult people - i rarely am even addressing *anyone* specifically when that first "lol, lamer gangers" or other barb is typed. i only provide very biting commentary on their generic style of gameplay.  and after that "gangers" comment *other* people (often not even involved in the situation) come back with "it's your own fault, SA blah blah blah " so i fire back with a few barbs.   no one is forcing anyone to even respond to my generic "whine" - yet they always do. just like i don't have to respond back, i do sometimes, i mean i'm on climbout, yanno, i have some time on my hands.  :D

yet... all the focus is on me and people with blinders (often ankle humping slobberdonkeys) fail to take everything into consideration and *only* focus on that one side.

the BBS is slightly different... i'll hose down the ankle humpers when they start in on me here.  if it makes them cry... well too bad... don't dish it if you can't take it. you notice how these same guys try and turn every discussion of moderators into a "anklehump" Shane thread?  there are two distinct issues moderators and how *others* are perceiving them, and then there's *me* - fwiw i've dealt with the moderators a total of, ohhhh, 2, maybe 3 times at most. i've been warned/muted by the autofilter about the same amount of times in 15 months.

do you ever see these ankle humpers going after say, those who are always BS this! POS that! You Cheat! THIS FM sucks! GV's suck! FU! Blow me! prettythangHole, CANADA/SADDAM/DEMOCRATS SUCK!! (well, you get the idea). there are quite a few regulars who partake in the above. do these ankle humpers even mention those? nooope.  yet, those are the real culprits behind channel 1 squelches, i'm just more visibly on ch 1 because there'll be a lot of dweebs  trying to trashtalk me the same way they fly... weakly and in gangs.

yet... "lamer gangers, dweeb, TA --->, clueless ackbunny HO dweeb" earn these ankle humpers constant cries to recognize their posse commitus. ever wonder why? because they've been guilty of being lamer ganger joust warrior ack bunnies and have had it said *to* them *by* me.  i'm guessing that it's nothing more than a defensive guilt deflection mechanism. then throw in that they've gone off on me on ch 1 (with personal insults i might add) and i simply turn *their* lame insults right back on them and make them look kinda stupid.  ouch. waaaaah.  ban him! ban him!

hell, i don't even remember the situation that set off the "lamer ganger" chain (they're all a blur because there are sadly so many clueless seals who are passing along to a new generation of air combat simmers the same clueless sealness)... so get over it already, try and improve your ACM or something so you won't need to rely on a gang or running.  those ankle humpers are *obsessing* fer christ's sake.

lol. sorry to rant, but i'm tired of these vengeful, petty, blinder wearing ankle humping slobberdonkeys stalking me on the BBS - hunt me down in the arena, fine, i don't care, add to the discussion at hand, fine, but STOP HUMPING MY diddlyING ANKLE!

oh yeah - afterthought - part of the problem is people don't see me giving out faux . i'm *not* military, i'm a civilian who's playing a ww2 air combat sim (game), instead i use either :) or "fun" when i actually have a very good encounter.

YMMV.
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Post by: poopster on December 21, 2002, 11:33:10 PM
Well humpalegging aside..

If there ain't any cheap beer, I'm not goin to be contracting any abdominals on a fibula...

What happened to that STFU poster ??

Kinda liked it...

It had it's own form of communication :)
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Post by: Shane on December 21, 2002, 11:33:29 PM
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Originally posted by Grizzly
That's really the problem. If folks wouldn't respond as they do...
1)  it could be laughed off
2)  the fun might be gone and he may stop doing it
3)  in the very least there would be less noise on chan 1
(or should I say gal?)


yeah, grizzly you're pretty much right.  in any case, all that would be seen would be one line of "lol@lamer gangers" or "clueless seal, TA --->"  followed by normal ch 1 chatter.

it's when people want to play word warrior is when the buffer can get cluttered. i'm not the *only* guilty party in all this.

and while i'm on this, wtf is ch1 for?  whines, squeakes, accusations of "cheating", smack/trashtalk,  or comments on one's ISP/warps  (or lack thereof) are as much a part of ch 1 (online game comms) as are the , "hello"' and in general banal watermelon chat. anyone who claims otherwise must be limited to standalone box games.

people are individuals, some engage in only some of the above, some engage in none, some engage in all. there *are* lines not to be crossed, and people do have lapses in judgement at times and it's not very often i think I do either.

ch 1 is a dynamic beast, who wants a sterile, forced and trite ch1? of course total anarchy isn't to be desired either. it's often been said "this is a chat room with attached."
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Post by: culero on December 22, 2002, 12:45:03 AM
Holy Walls O Text, Batman! :eek:

culero ;)
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Post by: Aub on December 22, 2002, 12:46:50 AM
That's a Tex-like response to some of your WOTs, mister culero
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Post by: Grizzly on December 22, 2002, 03:51:52 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Grizzly,

I do not argue with him on CH1, just squelch when he starts in.  

BTW, can u please tell me what a slobberdonkey is... that and facestudmuffin, both must be new highschool names
LOL :D


Of course, I don't know what you do. My suggestion was for everyone... a shoe to wear if it fits.

A facestudmuffin is a person who intentionally takes head on shots rather than maneuver for a gun solution. Facestudmuffin easy, maneuver hard, some players lazy and just don't have any self respect. I guess a slobberdonkey is one who says a lot of moronic stuff.

Let's look at Shane.

Players who constantly duck into their ack so you can't kill them, but then come running out to nip at your ankles when you turn away, rinse and repeat, are aggravating. Some like me just put up with it, others like Shane complain. Don't blame Shane... blame the donutwood who has to be a pain in the butt.

Players that fly high in fast planes and dive on you when you are occupied, then run away when they fail to kill you are a pain in the butt. Some like me put up with it, but others like Shane complain. Don't blame Shane, blame the jerk off who won't fight you. Don't waste your clue, I know that B&Z is a valid fight style, but it's boring as hell for the B&Zee and does nothing to lend to the fun of the game. It's about as fun as playing with as a dead skunk.

Just when you finally find a fun fight in a remote location, after spending all night being aggravated by the above players, some turds have to dive in and screw up your fun fight. Bad enough that goof offs do this, but you often find some top notch players doing it also. Some players have to work for their kills, or even find a fun match. Players who gang in for some easy kills care nothing for others, and live only to gather kills so they can brag and act like they're ultra l33t topgunnz. They are as aggravating to me as to Shane, but I keep quiet while Shane complains. Don't blame Shane, he wasn't the rude, greedy point monger who cares little for anyone else.

If I were to complain I would probably say something like, DAMMIT. Shane has his own way. It's just a few words, nothing that needs bother anyone, except the jerk who brought it on. The arena disruption starts when a bunch of players, who were not involved, feel the need to jump in and squeak about Shane. He isn't going to let these remarks go unchallenged... so channel one becomes polluted with roadkill.

It takes two to tango... don't just blame Shane. I think all that argue over this petty crap are dickheads... but I won't say anything because it would do no good and only cause disruption.

BTW, Bodhi... not accusing you... just saying (tm Pasha).

/rant