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Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Horn on December 20, 2002, 10:37:18 AM
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=51608b06-ae0d-4652-b9a0-eae0aa6ae6d7&displaylang=en

Anyone used it yet? Docs say it is 10x faster than dx8....

dh
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: vorticon on December 20, 2002, 10:51:24 AM
about to try it...shouldent cause to much problems tho
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: maxtor on December 20, 2002, 10:54:44 AM
taking that leap myself ...
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Toad on December 20, 2002, 10:57:54 AM
Quote
Originally posted by vorticon
about to try it...shouldent cause to much problems tho


Now there, given the history of MS, goes an eternal optimist.

:D
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Dowding on December 20, 2002, 11:00:19 AM
I'll think I'll bring up the rear in this lemming route march. ;)
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: AKIron on December 20, 2002, 11:00:39 AM
From an ignorant standpoint I'm willing to risk that DX9 is more of a feature adding update than a change in existing functions. I've been wrong before.
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Furious on December 20, 2002, 11:15:08 AM
bless the guinea pigs.


F.
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Saintaw on December 20, 2002, 11:16:27 AM
Please report here when/if you can :)
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Skuzzy on December 20, 2002, 11:32:41 AM
I would not recommend doing it, as there is no software on the market that uses DX9, and you are introducing a potentially big problem into your system for no benefit.
The claim of performance gains occurs for DX9 based software.
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: funkedup on December 20, 2002, 11:57:27 AM
I'll start downloading new versions of DX when MS starts including a proper uninstall program.  Until then I use the minimum required version of DX for the games I play.  I've had too many completely porked computers courtesy of Macro$haft.
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Horn on December 20, 2002, 12:00:29 PM
MS sez: "DirectX 9.0 includes security and performance updates" --are they lying? MS also sez it can't be uninstalled.

Have you tested it w/ AH? -- Not you Funked, Skuzzy...
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Horn on December 20, 2002, 12:13:08 PM
More MS tidbits:

"Some of the new functionality built into DirectX 9.0 may even enhance the quality and performance of your existing titles."

"Due to enhancements in the way DirectPlay functions, it is strongly recommended that all users who want to join or host multiplayer games upgrade to DirectX 9.0. A user with earlier versions of DirectX may have trouble joining or hosting games, or my see a significant performance reduction when playing with users who have 9.0 installed."


DX9 Supported software:

Dark Age of Camelot

Age of Mythology

IL-2 Sturmovik

Freedom Force

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon

Medal of Honor Allied Assault

Sims Vacation
Title: Hmmm
Post by: TIGS on December 20, 2002, 01:00:51 PM
I've got the DX 9 earlier today (downloaded it, of course :-D) and all went well.

First of all, my video card is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200 64 MB version

Did several tests on it using dxdiag, no problems.

And as someone just mentioned - playing online games with dx9 against dx8 players will cause dx8 players to lose performance.... maybe that's what happened earlier when I played UT2003 with the new dx9 - noticed that the gameplay didn't perform as well after a while because most of the players have dx8 or 8.1. Ah well.

TIGS
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: San on December 20, 2002, 09:37:23 PM
I downloaded it last night and ran it for 4 hours in Aces High and again this afternoon for a few hours. It seems to be stable but there is no improvement frame-rate wise for me at-least.  If all you play is Aces High its not worth the time to download as far as I can tell. I have not tried any other games yet.
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: AKIron on December 20, 2002, 10:01:48 PM
DX9 ok for me so far, Radeon 9000 Pro
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: FLS on December 21, 2002, 12:33:58 PM
When I first checked Horn's link it still said public beta, since then it's been updated to the release version.

--)-FLS----
Musketeers
Title: Wrong, dude
Post by: TIGS on December 21, 2002, 12:40:54 PM
This isn't the public beta version - this IS the final version.

Microsoft DirectX Site (http://www.microsoft.com/directx)

TIGS
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: funkedup on December 22, 2002, 01:19:08 AM
Well if that Directplay issue is for real then I guess it's pretty important to upgrade if you play multiplayer games.
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Skuzzy on December 22, 2002, 07:17:18 AM
DirectPlay is Microsoft's built-in MS proprietary network code for DirectX.

Very few titles use it, as it is a bloated pig, which requires specific code that will only run on Microsoft servers.

Is Microsoft lieing about the performance gains?  Well, there are many ways to guage performance gains.  All I can tell you is, there are no video performance gains to be had with DX9 over DX8.
In my opinion, the potential problems DX9 could introduce into a computer system do not justify its insallation yet.
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: capt. apathy on December 22, 2002, 08:49:54 AM
I can't afford to try it.

so far every dx upgrade (except 8.0 to 8.1) has cost me at least $125 in hardware and headaches before everything smoothes out.  and usually I cant notice a difference in performance.

I'll wait until a game I play requires it.
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: JimBear on December 22, 2002, 12:46:27 PM
Did it,  noticed no difference. A couple of reboots and some apps stopped working. A couple more reboots and things were taking forever to launch. Then my local profile became corrupted... Went to a previous restore point and it totaly crapped. Even the recovery console was hosed at this point.
Reformatted and all is fine now.    

What  sound does a lemming make going over the cliff?  duuuuu
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Reschke on December 22, 2002, 12:48:19 PM
All I can say after being the DX beta tests for the last several versions is don't use the automated download installer. Each time it has randomly rebooted my machine for no reason. I have even written it up as a bug report probably 10 times and nothing has been mentioned about it that I know of on the betaplace listing and my bug reports still show as unresolved.
Title: Will this blow up my machine? DX9 out.
Post by: Saintaw on December 22, 2002, 05:26:38 PM
You can un-install it,  under WinXP you have a way to save your current settings & go back to it if needed. (It's written plain on the Direcx download page).

I've now had it running for 48 hours, and played Aces High, Opflash & the Vietcong Demo, Ages of Mythology no problems so far. No improvement that I can see either. (I tried it since Ages of Mythology is supposed to have DX9 features). I took the chance because I will need to freshly reinstall everything on my puter soon, you gotta give that to winXp compared to other MS OSs that I had to reinstall every 6 months or so... I've had this XP running for over a year now, no BSD yet :)