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Title: HiTech
Post by: NUTTZ on December 21, 2002, 12:39:28 AM
Ban me for saying bad things about AH I've logged 1 hour in the last 5 tours Combined! your an Ingratefull POS!!  You posted things about me that we Untrue, It's your game, I was your BIGGEST cheerleader, You diddlyed me, so ban me and good riddence!!! You'll do well without me and I'll do well without you. You Just diddlyed you oldest and biggest fan. C'ya!


NUTTZZ
Title: HiTech
Post by: SOB on December 21, 2002, 01:06:11 AM
I know I must be missing something here...


SOB
Title: HiTech
Post by: Pongo on December 21, 2002, 01:17:36 AM
lol
Title: HiTech
Post by: eagl on December 21, 2002, 01:25:56 AM
Sounds like Nuttz came to the same realization I came to a while ago...  Even steadfast cheerleaders don't like being bullied.

I guess I still don't get it.

Still, AH H2H rocks.  I'm happy as heck that HTC keeps free 8 player H2H available, and 1.11 was IMO a great release.
Title: HiTech
Post by: SOB on December 21, 2002, 01:30:29 AM
I still don't get it, but with the spelling and grammar in his post, I'm beginning to think that NUTTZ is just HiTech's second personality.  :)


SOB
Title: HiTech
Post by: Beefcake on December 21, 2002, 01:32:34 AM
I hope this is some wierd joke or something. NUTTZ is one of our Best map makers and I'd hate to see him leave.
Title: HiTech
Post by: culero on December 21, 2002, 01:43:37 AM
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Originally posted by Beefcake
NUTTZ is one of our Best map makers and I'd hate to see him leave.


He sure looks sexy when he wears his "Monica" outfit, too :)

culero (LOL at that thought)
Title: HiTech
Post by: AKDejaVu on December 21, 2002, 02:36:11 AM
The really scary part is Nuttz probably drove home right before posting this.

AKDejaVu
Title: HiTech
Post by: Vulcan on December 21, 2002, 03:23:10 AM
I hope this is some sorta sick hoax.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Kweassa on December 21, 2002, 03:30:27 AM
Obviously, I'm not getting something here.

 Nuttz started random attacks against posts and posters in all forums, and the interesting part is I don't know why. It feels like as if somebody I worked with went nuttz and brought a shotgun to workplace one morning and started shooting at people.
Title: HiTech
Post by: funkedup on December 21, 2002, 04:39:24 AM
Maybe somebody hijacked his account.
It happened to me once when I made an ummmmmm poor password choice.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Swoop on December 21, 2002, 04:56:19 AM
yeah me 2.  

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: HiTech
Post by: SOB on December 21, 2002, 05:06:18 AM
So, how ARE those panties Swoop?  :D


SOB
Title: HiTech
Post by: funkedup on December 21, 2002, 05:08:46 AM
The guy that hijacked my account, he cursed out everybody on the Sicily forum then he said I quit the game.  Boy was I shocked when I got back from the tanning salon and logged in!  If I ever catch that sumbish...
Title: HiTech
Post by: SOB on December 21, 2002, 05:12:54 AM
That one is just to wonderful to touch...I wouldn't even know where to begin!


SOB
Title: AH Merchandise
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 21, 2002, 05:47:18 AM
I just went through the BBS to research this and it appears NUTTZ is pissed at Hitech because he did not source the AH mechandise through NUTTZ's business.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Dowding on December 21, 2002, 06:11:28 AM
Ooooh, now this is a little on the ugly side.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Pollock on December 21, 2002, 06:24:16 AM
I do not know the details nor do I care to.  But perhaps HTC wants to keep church and state seperate, and Nuttz is taking a business decision by HTC personally.  I am sure the soap saga will unfold within the next few days.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Toad on December 21, 2002, 06:35:33 AM
It's the unions, Grun!
Title: HiTech
Post by: Kweassa on December 21, 2002, 06:40:28 AM
Ouch, Grun.

 Thx for the info. This is now looking really ugly.... and it might also hurt this community in a way it never had before.. :(
Title: HiTech
Post by: -tronski- on December 21, 2002, 08:11:47 AM
Interesting tirade.....

 Tronsky
Title: HiTech
Post by: skernsk on December 21, 2002, 08:18:05 AM
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Originally posted by Kweassa
Ouch, Grun.

 Thx for the info. This is now looking really ugly.... and it might also hurt this community in a way it never had before.. :(


How would it hurt the community?  If Nuttz is pissed that HTC exercised their "right" to choose whoever they wanted to for their promotional product all I say is boo diddlying hoo.  It's none of my business who or why they chose the supplier.

It's obvious Nuttz is upset and he also has a "right" to feel any way he wants.  He can and should stop posting here like he has because it is serving no purpose whatsoever and it's making him look like a fool.

Take it to e-mail or phone HTC Nuttz.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Kweassa on December 21, 2002, 09:13:05 AM
Because it created a precedent of the troubles over the community concerning business related issues, skernsk. From what I know according to Grun, this fiasco begins when somebody thought his personal ties with the game can influence real life business relationships with the owners of the game.

 It's an ugly event, and I doubt I'd seen anything like this before. Sure, there were some aviation art sites and companies carefully knocking door and advertising to the AH commuity, but...this..?
Title: HiTech
Post by: CptTrips on December 21, 2002, 09:26:06 AM
Nuttz,

Kiddo, you need to stop posting and count to 10..er make that 10,000.

As a business person, you should realize that business decisions are made for a variety of reasons, based on all kinds of data, some of which you might not be privy to.  

In any case, HTC has a right to contract with whatever suppliers they wish for whatever reason they want.  

As a professional, you should have called Dale up and discussed the matter with him calmly.  You should have asked if there was any part of your operation that you could improve so that they would consider you in the future.  Just because you didn’t get this order doesn’t mean you might not have gotten others.  You might have found out that they simply wanted to diversify their supply sources.  As a business owner yourself, that’s a decision you should respect.  

What you shouldn’t have done, is go to a customer’s public place of business and throw an emotional tirade because you didn’t get a contract you thought you should have.  Not only does that burn any possible bridge you might have for future orders, it plain makes you look unprofessional, and unstable. The result won’t be positive for you or HTC or the AH community.

 This behavior is, quite frankly, beneath you, or at it least should be.

Regards,
AKWabbit
Title: HiTech
Post by: Toad on December 21, 2002, 09:26:28 AM
Other than Nuttz no longer making maps, it won't affect the game.

Let's have a reality check here.

If this is truly over who makes hats and coffee cups with the AH logo how will that affect gameplay in the MA?

I'm thinking pretty much not at all.

Sorry to see Nuttz go. He made nice maps. But if this truly is an "outside" business argument, it's not going to change the true core of the game.
Title: HiTech
Post by: AKIron on December 21, 2002, 09:50:16 AM
I'm with AKWabbit on this, hate to say it but bad form Nuttz.
Title: *YAWNNNNNNN*
Post by: weazel on December 21, 2002, 10:43:25 AM
Get over yourself.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Mathman on December 21, 2002, 10:45:32 AM
And a very merry Christmas to you too!
Title: HiTech
Post by: Mathman on December 21, 2002, 10:46:54 AM
Oh, and does Nuttz sound like that Eminem song "Stan" to anyone else?
Title: HiTech
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 21, 2002, 10:47:13 AM
I bet you think that weazel... :D
Title: HiTech
Post by: Eagler on December 21, 2002, 10:50:38 AM
doesn't seem like something to post for all to see ....

life goes on
Title: HiTech
Post by: Yeager on December 21, 2002, 11:16:57 AM
To some people its more than just a game. I myself work very hard to keep it just that.  A game.  Otherwise it would not be fun.

Adios NUTTZ, your a good guy.

Title: HiTech
Post by: Barney Fife on December 21, 2002, 11:27:04 AM
You know, Nuttz, I'm willing to bet your attitude and emotionally unstable nature are one of the core reasons you were not picked to do the merchandise.
Title: HiTech
Post by: SunKing on December 21, 2002, 12:00:39 PM
This is not only my favorite game but my favorite soap opera as well. I love Aces High.  :p
Title: HiTech
Post by: beet1e on December 21, 2002, 12:07:33 PM
Closest thing to the infamous WB thread by -okko- - in which he protested about warps by addressing -pyro- and hitech thus: "Mother blank you up the blank you blank-damned mother blankers".  Well, you get the picture. I think he'd had a little drink! They banned him for life.
Title: HiTech
Post by: NUTTZ on December 21, 2002, 12:43:55 PM
AKWabbit,AKIron, you guys are right, It was bad form for me to post My personal attack against HiTech on the BBS. It was a bad knee jerk reaction.

Whether I got the contract or not Really is not the basis for me being mad. I am not so much mad at HTC as much as I am mad at myself.

When HTC opened Beta I was there first day. When HTC went pay (24.95) I plunked down my CC.
When HTC released the Editor I started building maps. When HTC had it's first CON I was there as a sponsor to help It be A great CON. Rinse and repeat for the next 2 CONS. Dale owns the Business, he makes the decisions. I was very surprised to see the merchendise page when i logged on. I just wish I would of recieved a call at least telling me my product was Infearior,overpriced, or just that they wanted to source it to a different vendor. After helping with the cons the last three years, I would just assume a curtisy call was in order, Not the surprise I got opening up the BBS. It's HiTech's decision, It's his game, he just forgot about people that contributed along the way.


NUTTZ
Title: HiTech
Post by: NUTTZ on December 21, 2002, 12:51:37 PM
Nah, My post to Voss in another forum was spot on. Voss posted awhile back that I didn't have the mental capacity to understand art programs. I've submitted many maps and helped many others with thier maps. In the 3 years of AH, Voss has yet to contribute ANYTHING to AH. Yet he critizises others.

NUTTZ

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Originally posted by Kweassa
Obviously, I'm not getting something here.

 Nuttz started random attacks against posts and posters in all forums, and the interesting part is I don't know why. It feels like as if somebody I worked with went nuttz and brought a shotgun to workplace one morning and started shooting at people.
Title: HiTech
Post by: AKcurly on December 21, 2002, 03:21:24 PM
Nuttz's remarks in a public forum are inappropriate, but he is Nuttz. :)

As I understand, it isn't about $ and cents.  Those cool little hats & tee-shirts we got at the CON -- who provided them?  Nuttz. Some of the door  prizes were contributed by Nuttz.  Furthermore, Nuttz has done this at every CON since there have been AH CONs.

I'm not gonna get into the "he shoulda" and "why didn't hes" -- it's not my business.  But Nuttz is a good guy who just happens to readily boost into a hyperbolic orbit.

curly
Title: HiTech
Post by: koala on December 21, 2002, 03:27:17 PM
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Nah, My post to Voss in another forum was spot on. Voss posted awhile back that I didn't have the mental capacity to understand art programs.

Based on your thread here, you don't have the emotional capacity or maturity to run a business that I would trust my stuff with.

Who knows the details or who's right or wrong in this dealie, but based on what I can see here, HTC probably had very good reasons for what they did.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Voss on December 21, 2002, 03:54:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by NUTTZ
Nah, My post to Voss in another forum was spot on. Voss posted awhile back that I didn't have the mental capacity to understand art programs. I've submitted many maps and helped many others with thier maps. In the 3 years of AH, Voss has yet to contribute ANYTHING to AH. Yet he critizises others.

NUTTZ


Yet your recent tirade indicates I was right and that your handle suits you well. How many others in AH criticize, yet have a zero contribution level? Damn near every one of them.
Title: HiTech
Post by: brady on December 21, 2002, 05:29:42 PM
I thought I was NUTTZ. or was it HiTech, holds license up to miour....hmmmm
Title: HiTech
Post by: NUTTZ on December 21, 2002, 06:00:47 PM
AKCurly, your right. I did post that it was a knee jerk reaction and shouldn't of been posted. But I won't go back and edit the post, I said it, and will stand by any retrobution Hitech will impose.

I also know that my post (posted in anger) would definately make me look bad in many, if not everyones eyes, no good could come out of it.

I also hope people know I posted this freely and it doesn't reflect on the AK's, your good people, and have taken it on the chin with your "pizza" map.

And Yes my handle reflects my personality. All artist have passion and walk to a different drummer.

I have passion for this game AND my business. I guess I am as proud of my business as HiTech is about his. I've always posted positively about AH, and have been vocal and helpful in the terrain forum. I've helped others when their questions went unanswered by HTC. A few things have transpired in the last few weeks, and this was just the straw that broke the camels back. I think Dale was under the impression I refused to help someone with a map, which was untrue. I posted a message trying nicely to help another and got a less than friendly remark. And then after helping for so long, getting tossed aside and forgotten.

Dale, you have my oppology for what I said In your own house.
 But you need to brush up on your people skills.

I'm sure I'll get banned, But I'll take it like a man.

NUTTZ
Title: Dont you just love life?
Post by: Doyle on December 21, 2002, 06:05:42 PM
Everyone,




       Just like to say............ life never goes the way you want it to. Make the best of it.  




                 Merry Christmas!


                Doyle <165th Fighter Group>
Title: HiTech
Post by: Dago on December 21, 2002, 07:07:53 PM
I like Banana Cake with vanilla frosting.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Puck on December 21, 2002, 07:25:52 PM
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Originally posted by NUTTZ
And Yes my handle reflects my personality. All artist have passion and walk to a different drummer.


All?  Heh.  I gave up art and went into engineering.  At least then when the customer was smoking crack I could do the math to prove it.

Quote
I'm sure I'll get banned, But I'll take it like a man.


Before or after your knees jerk?

Life is replete with opportunities to keep your mouth shut.  Once said all the apologies in the world won't change what was said or the opinions those words engender.

JMHO.  YMMV.  HTH.  HAND.
Title: HiTech
Post by: cobra427 on December 21, 2002, 07:38:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Oedipus
Nuttz art and work has always been top notch.  But it's always come with a "price." He's a temperamental little lass who tosses a knipshit when he thinks she isn't being "listened to," responded to fast enough or given her "her way."   A great guy to "play" online with but I wouldn't want to live with him though.
 
 Oed.



is NUTTZ a he or a she???im confused


but i agree with NUTTZ he should of atleast been notified before hand about the deal im sute NUTTZ and HT could of worked a fair deal if what NUTTZ says is true that he has contributed that much and it probably is
Title: HiTech
Post by: Tumor on December 21, 2002, 07:43:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
I like Banana Cake with vanilla frosting.


ewww GROSS!!
Title: HiTech
Post by: SirLoin on December 21, 2002, 08:17:27 PM
I'm just going to add that the hats and t-shirts given out at the AH con were of the best quality I have ever seen...And I have a closet full of em from running 10k's and marathons.Didn't know it was your doing,very nice touch it was.

Hope you don't get banned,and hope you HTC cuts you a little slack on your rant.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Sixpence on December 21, 2002, 10:59:11 PM
Awww, can we get a group hug?
Title: HiTech
Post by: Aub on December 21, 2002, 11:19:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by funkedup
The guy that hijacked my account, he cursed out everybody on the Sicily forum then he said I quit the game.  Boy was I shocked when I got back from the tanning salon and logged in!  If I ever catch that sumbish...


*snork*

That was fun tho, was it not? :)
Title: HiTech
Post by: Lazerus1 on December 21, 2002, 11:20:24 PM
"I'd rather say nothing and have people think me an idiot, than open my mouth and prove it"

Mark Twain



NUTZZ, great terrains
Title: HiTech
Post by: Aub on December 21, 2002, 11:28:26 PM
NUTTZ should get punished. But, not for life. I hope *EVERYONE* hear realizes and remembers what he has done to better this game.

We must also all remember we are human, and often make mistakes about when and how we should speak.

I support HiTech's right to do whatever he feels in regards to NUTTZ. But I also support NUTTZ seeing he is very apologetic and taking everything on the chin.
Title: HiTech
Post by: culero on December 22, 2002, 12:49:02 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SirLoin
I'm just going to add that the hats and t-shirts given out at the AH con were of the best quality I have ever seen


Speaking from personal experience, absolute top quality is typical of NUTTZ's business work product.

culero (no toejam)
Title: Re: HiTech
Post by: maxtor on December 22, 2002, 01:45:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by NUTTZ
Ban me for saying bad things about AH I've logged 1 hour in the last 5 tours Combined! your an Ingratefull POS!!  You posted things about me that we Untrue, It's your game, I was your BIGGEST cheerleader, You diddlyed me, so ban me and good riddence!!! You'll do well without me and I'll do well without you. You Just diddlyed you oldest and biggest fan. C'ya!


NUTTZZ


He is drunk.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Aub on December 22, 2002, 02:54:40 AM
Quote
Originally posted by maxtor
Come on guys, he was obviously drunk off his bellybutton and pissed (like none of you been there).  You people take yourselves WAY to seriously.

"NUTTZ should get punished. But, not for life. "

"I'd rather say nothing and have people think me an idiot, than open my mouth and prove it

Mark Twain"

I am a decendant of Mark Twain (no that doesn't pay well), but to start up a Salem witch trial over this drunken post is stupid.


'For every action, there is an opposite but equal reaction'
- Sir Isaac Newton

This isn't a witch hunt. Using your drunk analogy... if you get drunk, drive a car, hit a kid walking on the sidewalk... should you be punished because you was just drunk and everyone does it?

This isn't a witch hunt. It's a fact of civilized society
Title: HiTech
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 22, 2002, 03:44:04 AM
Although I certainly dont know why hitech chose not to even inform NUTTZ about the merchandise opportunity let alone source it through him.  It does, at least on the surface, seem like a pretty damn rotten thing to do ignoring a long time business partner - and yes thats certainly is somebody who sponsors you with product for three years running.  And actually I think this IS something hitech needs to explain to us, because NUTTZ is not just some annonymous business man he is member of our playing community and it seems he had excellent service and quality to all the people at the con who got his shirts and hats and whatever, and again he was a big HTC sponsor and contributor for many years.  If there was a business decision made, I think we should know why.

NUTTZ's insulting and ranting post no doubt did a disservice to his cause, but the dismissive and attacking posts the other way are worse because they show Hitech he can act in any way and make any business decission however seemingly unethical and get away with it unscathed in customer perception. And yes as a business major in college I see skipping over a quality three year businees partner and sponsor for a new contrcat without even informing him him of the opportunity to be unethical. And we as paying custimers deserve a report when something that unusal happends.  HTC can do whatever they want, I'm guessing Hitech and Pyro are the sole owners and they can do whatever they want, but it is a great disservice to their customers if they create this feeling of distrust towards business partners and community members, and this they do by not explaining their actions.

Anyway thats how I feel...

Hitech?
Title: HiTech
Post by: SOB on December 22, 2002, 04:03:44 AM
LOL.  That was hilarious Grun...keep up with the comedy!


SOB
Title: HiTech
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 22, 2002, 04:25:37 AM
Why do you think thats funny?  Maybe you dont care about how somebody treats their business partners but since I'm a business major and as one studying in that field I must admit I was bit surprised this happend considering NUTTZ was good quality sponsor for three years and they just ignore him when they need a line of merchandise in his field.  

Personally I think that sucks and is very unproffesional and unethical conduct, and for those reasons I would like an explanation.

I dont think its funny at all, and your kind of post poking fun at my concern just assures hitech that its ok and that nobody gives a rats ass.
Title: HiTech
Post by: moose on December 22, 2002, 04:30:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
And actually I think this IS something hitech needs to explain to us, because NUTTZ is not just some annonymous business man he is member of our playing community and it seems he had excellent service and quality to all the people at the con who got his shirts and hats and whatever, and again he was a big HTC sponsor and contributor for many years.  If there was a business decision made, I think we should know why.


Sorry Grun, I don't agree with you there.

That's personal business stuff and trying to guilt trip Hitech into divulging his business descisons isn't going to make the situation any better.

That being said, I must agree with the multitudes of people who have praised Nuttz's work - having been to the con twice, I've brought home a jacket, 2 t shirts, and 2 hats of the finest quality and have great respect for Grafix One.

At the same time, I don't know what Nuttz has done to deserve 'punishment.' What exactly is that all about? Is the community now judge and jury? From what I can see in the moderator threads, HTC controls everything... so calling for some kind of banishment or whatever for Nuttz is plain ridiculous and is just stoking the fire.
Title: HiTech
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 22, 2002, 04:38:30 AM
It's up to Hitech to decide to tell us or not, I'm just stating my opinion - and basically with the info that I have my opinion is that hitech made an unethical decision in at least not giving NUTTZ, a long time business partner, an opportunity to bid on the AH merchandise contract.
Title: HiTech
Post by: SOB on December 22, 2002, 04:40:48 AM
Grun,

A. You have no idea what HiTech's decision was based on, nor do you know anything about his business relationship with NUTTZ, beyond the fact that NUTTZ supplied stuff to the cons.

B. It's none of your business.

Don't mean to be too blunt, but that's about it, and that's why I found your post humorous.


SOB
Title: HiTech
Post by: akak on December 22, 2002, 04:41:13 AM
Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
And actually I think this IS something hitech needs to explain to us...



HiTech doesn't have to explain anything to us.  We're not shareholders in HiTech Creations and therefore aren't owed an explaination on this matter by HiTech.  This is a private matter between NUTTZ and HiTech and it should remain that way.  NUTTZ showed very poor form in posting his rant and should have taken care of it in private between himself and HiTech.  Those are the only two people this matter involves and it should stay that way.

Ack-Ack
Title: HiTech
Post by: X2Lee on December 22, 2002, 08:11:04 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Aub
'For every action, there is an opposite but equal reaction'
- Sir Isaac Newton

This isn't a witch hunt. Using your drunk analogy... if you get drunk, drive a car, hit a kid walking on the sidewalk... should you be punished because you was just drunk and everyone does it?

This isn't a witch hunt. It's a fact of civilized society


Shutup Aub.
Nuttz should have had the contract IMO. You should
always keep it in the family or community. I dont blame him for being a little upset.
I personaly will buy my shirts and mugs from Nuttz, not HTC
Its a free country and all.

Even when it seems like EA it could still be a mistake.
So I wont equate HTC management with EA at the moment.
I will however place a Tshirt order with Nuttz.

Bigwigs be damned
Merry Christmas All
Title: HiTech
Post by: WhiteHawk on December 22, 2002, 08:11:34 AM
crap, this is the wrong thread.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Swager on December 22, 2002, 08:40:55 AM
So we know that NUTTZ did some great work for the Aces High Community through some great maps.  He has been a good promoter of the HTC product.  NUTTZ and HTC had some kind of deal going with Aces High merchandice.  HTC sourced it with a different vendor with no call to NUTTZ explaining why.  Dumped him like a sack of rotten potatoes.

If this is true, sounds like HT and Pyro could easily qualify for management jobs where I work.

Where I work, I get a weekly screwing whether I need it or not.  Hell, they even stopped using lube due to they wanted to cut cost!  :)

Sounds like this little disagreement is between HTC and NUTTZ and it should of stayed between them.  Bad form posting it on the BBS.  This is HTC's house.  

NUTTZ if this did happen it really stinks for you always supported Aces High.  Hope to still see you in the virtual skies!  

Title: HiTech
Post by: culero on December 22, 2002, 09:43:45 AM
Quote
Originally posted by akak
snip

This is a private matter between NUTTZ and HiTech and it should remain that way



No toejam. NUTTZ already stood up and said he shouldn't have posted it. We all have every reason to respect both him and HT, thus we should all trust they will now work whatever out between themselves in proper fashion.

culero (no toejam)
Title: HiTech
Post by: blitz on December 22, 2002, 10:01:39 AM
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Originally posted by Puck

"Life is replete with opportunities to keep your mouth shut.  Once said all the apologies in the world won't change what was said or the opinions those words engender."

Ahoi:)

That is definately wrong. As we all do or say wrong things from time to time an honest apolpgy is a nice thing to make things better.
Some folks think apologies are only for women  but i have  great respect for gents who can jump over their shadow even more.

Big for ya Nuttz


Blitz

Sorry fr my horrible english
Title: HiTech
Post by: AKIron on December 22, 2002, 10:26:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by blitz
Quote
Originally posted by Puck
Some folks think apologies are only for women [/B]


Obviously you're not a married male. ;)
Title: HiTech
Post by: CptTrips on December 22, 2002, 10:53:50 AM
Quote
I'm just going to add that the hats and t-shirts given out at the AH con were of the best quality I have ever seen...And I have a closet full of em from running 10k's and marathons.Didn't know it was your doing,very nice touch it was.



I can second that.  The 3 con hats I've collected are my favorite hats.  And I'm quite a connoisseur of hats needing to cover my bald head.  

They were much better than the crappy kind of decal ironed on foam (which starts flaking off within a week) hat I was expecting.  Any squads thinking of doing shirts or hats or mouse pads with their squad logo’s could certainly do worse than going with Nuttz.

There’s no doubting his craftsmanship.  

Regards,
 AKWabbit
Title: HiTech
Post by: SlapShot on December 22, 2002, 10:57:46 AM
GRUNHERZ ... waiting for HiTech's answer


(http://pages.cthome.net/crzn22/Misc/Holding-Breath.JPG)
Title: HiTech
Post by: Kieran on December 22, 2002, 11:24:29 AM
Quote
I'm just going to add that the hats and t-shirts given out at the AH con were of the best quality I have ever seen...And I have a closet full of em from running 10k's and marathons.Didn't know it was your doing,very nice touch it was.


*Hijack Alert!*

Interesting... what kind of times have you run? Avid runner here...
Title: HiTech
Post by: Lazer1 on December 22, 2002, 11:37:21 AM
haha dago :rolleyes:
Title: HiTech
Post by: Ratbo on December 22, 2002, 11:48:29 AM
I agree that HT does not owe anyone (but NUTTZ)  any explainations or answers for exactly the reasons outlined.  

That said, though NUTTZ should not have posted the rant here - he did. Which brings us to the old saying that you can't unring a bell.

I kina hope that the whole story comes (leaks) out now that the bell has been rung - only because it leaves a lot of questions up in the air.

-W


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Originally posted by akak
HiTech doesn't have to explain anything to us.  We're not shareholders in HiTech Creations and therefore aren't owed an explaination on this matter by HiTech.  This is a private matter between NUTTZ and HiTech and it should remain that way.  NUTTZ showed very poor form in posting his rant and should have taken care of it in private between himself and HiTech.  Those are the only two people this matter involves and it should stay that way.

Ack-Ack
Title: HiTech
Post by: AKDejaVu on December 22, 2002, 11:49:31 AM
I'm sorry, but I've said this before (actually.. I said it the last time Nuttz went on a tirade)..

Contributions to this community are given, not sold.  Nobody owes you anything for them, you can only hope that they are apreciated.

Nuttz's map making and con sponsorship do not in any way oblidge HTC to either use his buisness or notify them when they chose not to use his buisness.  That is what makes this post uncalled for.

Damn... if HTC "owed" everyone that contributed something to this game or this community...  The list would be too long to track.

Do it for the love of the game, for the love of the community.  Expect nothing in return.

AKDejaVu
Title: HiTech
Post by: NUTTZ on December 22, 2002, 12:14:03 PM
Your correct AKDeja, In all Reality HiTech doesn't owe me anything, Not even an explaination. I posted this while I was really mad, I posted an oppology that My personal diagreement was out of line on the BBS. I also don't believe in retracting what I said, either in anger or Not, I said it and will take the punishment. I said It and cannot take the words back. I STILL do feel slighted. I made the maps and asked nothing in return, I did it for the love of the game, I helped sponsor the Con for the love of the game and community, and your right I shouldn't expect anything in return, Not even an explaination.

Let this post drop, I was so out of line with this post. I'm sure once HiTech reads this, It won't matter who post what and why, It is between HiTech and myself. Once again I'm sorry for airing my dirty laundry out in public.

NUTTZ


Quote
Originally posted by AKDejaVu
I'm sorry, but I've said this before (actually.. I said it the last time Nuttz went on a tirade)..

Contributions to this community are given, not sold.  Nobody owes you anything for them, you can only hope that they are apreciated.

Nuttz's map making and con sponsorship do not in any way oblidge HTC to either use his buisness or notify them when they chose not to use his buisness.  That is what makes this post uncalled for.

Damn... if HTC "owed" everyone that contributed something to this game or this community...  The list would be too long to track.

Do it for the love of the game, for the love of the community.  Expect nothing in return.

AKDejaVu
Title: HiTech
Post by: AKDejaVu on December 22, 2002, 12:16:12 PM
Sorry Nuttz, I didn't really post that for you.  I know you understand it.  The loose refference to you being drunk when you posted it was meant for you. ;)

Its more for the people that are coming in even after you admitted it wasn't the right thing to do and saying "but after all Nuttz has done..."



AKDejaVu
Title: HiTech
Post by: Hortlund on December 22, 2002, 12:20:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKDejaVu
I'm sorry, but I've said this before (actually.. I said it the last time Nuttz went on a tirade)..

Contributions to this community are given, not sold.  Nobody owes you anything for them, you can only hope that they are apreciated.

Nuttz's map making and con sponsorship do not in any way oblidge HTC to either use his buisness or notify them when they chose not to use his buisness.  That is what makes this post uncalled for.

Damn... if HTC "owed" everyone that contributed something to this game or this community...  The list would be too long to track.

Do it for the love of the game, for the love of the community.  Expect nothing in return.

AKDejaVu


Weird weird attitude Deja. Looks like you have reached the nirvana of fanboi-mentality.
Title: HiTech
Post by: AKDejaVu on December 22, 2002, 12:24:27 PM
And looks like you'll never be able to understand that it has nothing to do with being a fanboi hortlund.

Some people just give without expectation.  Others just expect despite not doing anything.

Its odd that you should work so hard to insult the former.  Well... maybe not that odd.

AKDejaVu
Title: HiTech
Post by: Hortlund on December 22, 2002, 12:29:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Its odd that you should work so hard to insult the former.  Well... maybe not that odd.
 


Uh... now you lost me, who did I insult? And how?
Title: HiTech
Post by: NUTTZ on December 22, 2002, 12:44:47 PM
LOL, I was... Me and captain Morgan had a night:) But I didn't want to use that as a crutch.


NUTTZ
Quote
Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Sorry Nuttz, I didn't really post that for you.  I know you understand it.  The loose refference to you being drunk when you posted it was meant for you. ;)

Its more for the people that are coming in even after you admitted it wasn't the right thing to do and saying "but after all Nuttz has done..."



AKDejaVu
Title: HiTech
Post by: koala on December 22, 2002, 01:22:14 PM
Quote
Grunherz:
It's up to Hitech to decide to tell us or not, I'm just stating my opinion - and basically with the info that I have my opinion is that hitech made an unethical decision in at least not giving NUTTZ, a long time business partner, an opportunity to bid on the AH merchandise contract.

If the only info you have is based on this thread, then your opinion is crap.  If you have additional info that we're not privvy to, then you should either post it or not post such ill-informed conclusions.

You people who think that somehow HTC "owes" a volunteer something, need to get some perspective.  It's like saying I donated some money to the Salvation Army and they "owe" me damn it!  You donate your time and money to a variety of causes freely, not based of some reciprocal arrangement or contract.

I wasn't aware NUTTZ had a business deal that was being violated by HTC, but a lot of you act like that's the case.

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Hortlund spouted:
Weird weird attitude Deja. Looks like you have reached the nirvana of fanboi-mentality.

:rolleyes:
Title: HiTech
Post by: NUTTZ on December 22, 2002, 02:26:00 PM
Guys I posted it in anger, PLEASE let it die I'm allready in enought trouble. HiTech has been good to me, I posted a knee jerk reaction I trully am sorry for. let it die.

NUTTZ
Title: HiTech
Post by: ICKID on December 22, 2002, 02:34:44 PM
Point of information please, does anyone know if HTC compensated Nuttz for any of his art work in makeing maps?
Title: HiTech
Post by: Lizard3 on December 22, 2002, 03:13:14 PM
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Originally posted by NUTTZ
LOL, I was... Me and captain Morgan had a night:)

NUTTZ


Oh NO! Not the Captain! Dude, that will def. leave a mark. I could tell you some stories from back in my Navy days...I think the "spice" in spiced rum is some form of sillysybin or PCP.  Oh Cod the horror:eek:
Title: HiTech
Post by: Coach on December 22, 2002, 04:16:05 PM
Agreed Nuttz,

I have said many things in my life based upon a kneejerk reaction.  Wished I coulda taken em all back.  If any of ya here have never done that.......  start throwin the stone ;)

Coach
Title: HiTech
Post by: Max on December 22, 2002, 04:19:56 PM
Hey Nuttz it being Christmas and all, maybe that and a bottle of nice Scotch will get ya a free pass.

Max
Title: HiTech
Post by: Aub on December 22, 2002, 04:37:26 PM
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Originally posted by X2Lee
Shutup Aub.


Make me, X-Boy!

*throws a beer bottle at X2 and scampers off*
Title: HiTech
Post by: Bluedog on December 22, 2002, 10:43:50 PM
Just gotta say , Nuttz, I like your attitude. (at least the bits after the apology, the original post was a bit unpollished )
For standing by your words, right or wrong, and being prepared to accept any consequences that may arise.........'copping it on the chin' as it were.
It shows you possess a level of integrety that is sorely lacking in many things in todays world.

Blue
Title: HiTech
Post by: Sixpence on December 22, 2002, 11:07:53 PM
blah blah blah
Title: If I had a penny
Post by: TWOLF on December 22, 2002, 11:31:10 PM
If I had just one penny for everytime I stuck my foot in my mouth I would have more money the Bill Gates.  But somethings in Business can not be over looked.  It's bad for all involved.  I hope that things work out for both parties.  I love this game.
Title: HiTech
Post by: MadBirdCZ on December 23, 2002, 03:26:21 AM
Not going to comment on NUTTZ's reaction here.

All I would like to say is that the whole new online "shop" HTC introduced looks extremely ugly - graphicaly-wise... and it does not represent the quality of the product nor company it should promote.
Title: HiTech
Post by: Eagler on December 23, 2002, 06:31:12 AM
.....away they all flew like the down of a thistle.
But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,
"HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!"

(http://www.night.net/christmas/images/santslgh.gif)
Title: HiTech
Post by: Max on December 23, 2002, 08:07:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Aub
Make me, X-Boy!

*throws a beer bottle at X2 and scampers off*


took ya 8 hrs to come up with THAT?

DmdMax
Title: HiTech
Post by: culero on December 23, 2002, 10:07:51 AM
Quote
Originally posted by DMax
took ya 8 hrs to come up with THAT?

DmdMax


Aub's an Okie, dood...he's doing well to manage to type ;)

culero
Title: HiTech
Post by: SirLoin on December 23, 2002, 11:20:10 AM
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Originally posted by Kieran
*Hijack Alert!*

Interesting... what kind of times have you run? Avid runner here...

Now that it's safe to post...:)

POB's

10k:   38'32"
21.1k:1'28"
42.2k:3'26"
Title: HiTech
Post by: Pyro on December 23, 2002, 11:30:22 AM
2 quick comments before I lock this thread.

First, this is not simply a matter of us purchasing some hats and t-shirts for resale.  We need a complete E-commerce solution that outsources everything from website construction to billing and shipping.  This is not where we want to put our efforts as a company.  Furthermore, although shirts and hats are the logical starting point to gauge interest, we would like to offer manufactured goods and we have the capability to have pretty much anything made if we feel the demand is there.

Second, we do have a phone.  If we missed an opportunity, that would be the way to rectify it.