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Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: Curval on December 21, 2002, 09:54:42 AM
Viper engaged my B17 formation as I was on the way home from bombing the Bish HQ, in a 262 last night.

He took out both my drones and I wasn't able to get my guns on him in his first few passes...devastating slashing attacks.

On his final pass on my sole remaining 17 I managed to ping him and smoke erupted from his 262.  He had me laughing because after that pass he typed "That's not good" over the text channel 1.:D

He broke off and headed back to land his damaged bird leaving me to cross my fingers and hope that he wouldn't make it home.  During the wait I checked on my plane.  Incredibly my horizontal stabilizer was gone and I was still airborne..at least one engine was out and I was trailing smoke badly (see pic).  I couldn't turn my aircraft, so I kept it straight and level on a course towards enemy territory.  

I was attacked by another con before I bailed...you can see his chute in the lower left of the pic.  ;)  He was my third kill of a fighter on this mission.

Viper then typed "Whew" on the text buffer and my heart sank...he had made it back..no 262 kill for me.:(

But, definately one of the most fun times I've had in a bomber.

Viper.
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: Curval on December 21, 2002, 09:59:05 AM
Pic of the damage.
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: bj229r on December 21, 2002, 10:13:21 AM
hmm..i guess ya could try fiddlin with #1 and #4 prop speed to turn
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: Otto on December 21, 2002, 10:18:46 AM
As information, no conventional 'real world' aircraft could contiune to fly without a Vertical Stabilizer.
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: Curval on December 21, 2002, 11:05:25 AM
I thought it was the horizontal stabilizer....the tail section that is missing is vertical itself, but isn't it there to stabilize horizontal movement?  

:confused:
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: Vipermann on December 21, 2002, 11:15:56 AM
-=S=- Curval

I was really sweatin it out on the way back. Oil in both engines was spewing out the back and I had over a sector to get back to base. There was a N1k at the base when I was landing but he must not have seen me since he went after another guy and died to the ack.

I saw one flash on your tail as I went by, then heard on ping on me. I Look back and see all this smoke pouring out the back.

Good shootin on that last pass :)

-=S=-
Viper
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: hazed- on December 21, 2002, 12:26:12 PM
no plane can fly without a vertical stabiliser but if you have ever seen that picture of the B17 that lost 2 thirds of its vertical stabiliser to a 109 which rammed him you would agree if any plane 'should' fly well with damaged vert stab then its the B17 :D

if i can find the pic ill post it. It really is an unbelievable mess but it made it home.
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: Midnight on December 21, 2002, 01:36:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Otto
As information, no conventional 'real world' aircraft could contiune to fly without a Vertical Stabilizer.


B2 bomber
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: Keez on December 21, 2002, 02:10:22 PM
See, flying a bomber just by yourself is a tricky business... Take some friends along and these red guys, as seen in this pic....
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: Keez on December 21, 2002, 02:11:37 PM
become amusing rather than scary because they run like dogs with their tails between their legs after the first pass, because of all the tracers that fly around :)
Title: Vert Stabalizer
Post by: TWOLF on December 21, 2002, 08:18:27 PM
Well Hazed if it's any consolation I have seen the picture that you are talking about, but I can't say that I remember where.  I seem to remember hearing about another that was missing the entire tail section that made it back by stearing with engines, and using banking turns.  There are a number of buff sites out there.  Sinse I am burning time at work I will do a little surfing.  If I find anything I will post it here.
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: Curval on December 21, 2002, 08:37:17 PM
In actual fact I have seen that picture too Hazed...but at least they had 2/3 of the vertical stabilizer left.  Check out the side view of this B17...:D

I had to edit just to add that I didn't retouch this at all.  I have the film of it too.
Title: B17 Mission..post Viper's 262 attack
Post by: moose on December 21, 2002, 08:46:21 PM
A multiengine plane can fly w/o a vert stab IIRC

Nifty did it once with a b26 in a snapshot or something I think

You can manage your engines to prevent it from spinning