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Title: Hitech........
Post by: G10Whore on May 03, 2001, 01:53:00 PM
I know from expierience  that if you slowly bump a Cessna 172 in a stationary objext, such as a pole, that the plane will hook around the pole and the plane will be very flyable.  I would surely hope a BF109 G-10 could do the same.
Title: Hitech........
Post by: hblair on May 03, 2001, 01:56:00 PM
Note to Self: Don't go taxiing around the airport with G10potato...
Title: Hitech........
Post by: AKDejaVu on May 03, 2001, 02:00:00 PM
So.. how did you get the plane away from the pole?  Did you have to get out... push it backwards... then fly on?  Guess what.. all you have to do is get out of the plane in AH too.

AKDejaVu
Title: Hitech........
Post by: hitech on May 03, 2001, 02:01:00 PM
And im sure you just bumped that poll on purpose and went flying with out checking anything out.

Get real G10potato, you are complaining about a none existing issue, don't bump into things with your airplane, because it tends to break it. The fact is you screwed up, got your self stuck in a corner, and now wish to blame the game for YOU screwing up. Well it's NOT AH's fault, it's yours.

HiTech
Title: Hitech........
Post by: G10Whore on May 03, 2001, 02:02:00 PM
whatever
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Post by: Mr. T on May 03, 2001, 02:02:00 PM
HiTech, I keep getting shot down.

Can you make the bullets not do any damage?
-SW
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Post by: G10Whore on May 03, 2001, 02:03:00 PM
Im not blaming anything.  I just think its silly that the whole plane went to hell.  I could have at elast gotton out without ditching

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Post by: Mickey1992 on May 03, 2001, 02:06:00 PM
Why do we need a second thread about this?
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Post by: AKDejaVu on May 03, 2001, 02:08:00 PM
because he didn't think enough people agreed with him in the first one?
Title: Hitech........
Post by: Checksix on May 03, 2001, 02:11:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Mickey1992:
Why do we need a second thread about this?

because everyone's not through humiliating him yet.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

of course he's right but it could have been explained that it's just a game with a little more civility.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Post by: john9001 on May 03, 2001, 02:12:00 PM
I hate to think what my flight instructor (also owner of the plane) would have done if i had hit a pole with his wing, he gave me hell for using the brakes after landing.
"Roll to the next exit" he said "you'll wear out the brakes"
44MAG
Title: Hitech........
Post by: R4M on May 03, 2001, 02:14:00 PM
First time I crashed into that little building (some time ago it used to be "phantom") I almost fell out of chair laughing  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Now I simply take the preocupation of not to crashing into it. its healtier.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

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Post by: mrfish on May 03, 2001, 02:17:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Checksix:
because everyone's not through humiliating him yet.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

lol - exactly....and they say there's no stupid questions.

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Post by: G10Whore on May 03, 2001, 02:21:00 PM
thats funny.

I could have sworn this was the Aces High forums and not the counter-strike forums.

Maybe someone slipped some acid into my drink or something.....?
Title: Hitech........
Post by: Tronspir on May 03, 2001, 02:23:00 PM
Hmmm, don't know about telephone poles, but telephone wires! YES!
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Title: Hitech........
Post by: kidcol on May 03, 2001, 02:23:00 PM
of course he's right, but who wants HT to concentrate on this. For example, how many of you have ever taken way too little fuel for a flight? Would you do that in real life? Heck no.

On a more serious note, I do have a pressing issue for HT to take a look at.

After 2 or 3 hrs of flying, I keep finding that I'm out of beer. This happens IN EVERY AC! I've mailed HT films of this happenning, but he keeps sending back links to various things called "counseling". If you're not gonna look at this seriously HT, at least you could send me some replacements (lost almost a full beer when I smacked wing on refueling hut).

 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

kidcol2
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Post by: AKDejaVu on May 03, 2001, 02:25:00 PM
 
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Hmmm, don't know about telephone poles, but telephone wires! YES!

But the real question is.. did this sortie end with a "landed" or a "ditched"?

AKDejaVu
Title: Hitech........
Post by: AKDejaVu on May 03, 2001, 02:26:00 PM
 
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Q: Why do we need a second thread about this?

A: because everyone's not through humiliating him yet.

WOW! You'd almost think "everyone" started this thread just to humiliate him.

AKDejaVu
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Post by: Checksix on May 03, 2001, 02:38:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
WOW! You'd almost think "everyone" started this thread just to humiliate him.

no, you were beat to it.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

your screen bell must have not gone off since you normally never miss a great opportunity like that most of the time.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

perhaps you're gettin OLD.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Hitech........
Post by: moose on May 03, 2001, 02:43:00 PM
Not to play Devil's Advocate, but he has somewhat of a point.

At least if exiting on the field anywhere counted as a landing and not a ditch, this wouldn't be an issue at all.

I've bumped the damn shack myself a lot of times and it is incredibly frustrating. You're sitting on the rearm pad. Ready to go, but your plane can't turn tight enough to not nick the wing on the refuel shack and you end up disabled on the refuel pad.

A lot of people have asked for the size of the 'landed successfully' hotspots to be increased - is this on your drawing board hitech? (although if getting that feature in meant that it would delay something else that was more important, I'd gladly wait)

Just more thoughts..
Title: Hitech........
Post by: hitech on May 03, 2001, 02:52:00 PM

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A lot of people have asked for the size of the 'landed successfully' hotspots to be increased - is this on your drawing board hitech?
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Ahh a real request stated in a resonable fashion.Nothing to do with realism, no slaming, nothing judgementle, just an obsevation and simple request.

I have never seen this requested but would be glad to put this on the list to thing to change. Would about double the width work?

HiTech

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Post by: Eagler on May 03, 2001, 03:00:00 PM
double would be great but I do not have issue with the current size. I would like to see one pop up at the vh's though, since we are putting in our requests   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

..er.. that should read "Vehicle Base"

Eagler

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Title: Hitech........
Post by: moose on May 03, 2001, 03:08:00 PM
Hmm, well, anything more would help hitech IMO

Sometimes it's really aggrevating to nurse a damaged fighter home and then land about 10 feet from the runway.

It might not be a score issue (well, it is) but its more pride in being able to land successfully something screwed up. The other night I lost my engine and glided about 10 miles back to base, but I didn't know one of my gear was also shot away so I ended up right off the end of the runway    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)

Anyway, yep, I agree that if it was doubled, it would help. Although I saw somewhere (maybe in the gameplay forum) someone asking for the entire field to count.

Also, another suggestion I saw was that when you drive into a hanger, your aircraft could be fixed in a manner similar to how you refuel.

Dont know how realistic that is itself, but it'd be kind of cool anyway    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)..

edit - btw, thanks for responding. always glad to know god is watching   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)


also - eagler, i think you can currently land at the vbases. Just taxi to somewhere near the vh and it counts as a landing.

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Post by: Arlo on May 03, 2001, 03:18:00 PM
GEEZ! For 30 bucks you'd think .... (j/k)

nm ij

Hiya HT. Lookin forward to hookin my gear on a runway light. =0)

-Arlo

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Title: Hitech........
Post by: AG Sachsenberg on May 03, 2001, 03:32:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by moose:
 

Also, another suggestion I saw was that when you drive into a hanger, your aircraft could be fixed in a manner similar to how you refuel.


I second this one big time

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Title: Hitech........
Post by: Brat on May 03, 2001, 03:36:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by G10potato:
I know from expierience  that if you slowly bump a Cessna 172 in a stationary objext, such as a pole, that the plane will hook around the pole and the plane will be very flyable.  I would surely hope a BF109 G-10 could do the same.

Just curious...what airport you fly out of? I just want to make sure I NEVER buy a plane ticket and leave from that airport.

Pilot: Oh crap...I ran into the luggage cart again.
Tower: Eh...looks ok from here...you're free to take off.

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Post by: Toad on May 03, 2001, 03:49:00 PM
"Ahh a real request stated in a resonable fashion"

There you have it folks. Common civility wins the day.

Guidelines? That's about the only one this board really needs.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

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Post by: Staga on May 03, 2001, 04:09:00 PM
Golly-gee Lancaster can refuel/reload next to that hut but one frigging 109 crashes on it ?
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Post by: SwampRat on May 03, 2001, 04:22:00 PM
Ahhh...I'd like to bring up a little point.  (sorry for the lateness).  Have any of you ever witnessed a real live USAF Wing Commander, or Squadron Commander for that matter..anyway, any of these Commander types reaction after a pilot, say...accidentally skid's an F-16 slightly off a runway, or perhaps...bump the wing of another aircraft in passing?  I have lol.  Never mind the damage to the plane...the pilot will most likely never find his bellybutton again and be real lucky to fly again, at least under said commander hehe.
Swamp
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Post by: flakbait on May 03, 2001, 04:26:00 PM
HiTech, another possible thing to add to your list. I sent Superfly a map of a small field I wanted to create. This map to be precise:

 (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6/pics/small.gif)

The terrain editor will not let you create a new field type from scratch. I'd like to re-design fields to a few new configurations just for a change of pace. Would it be possible to create a field editor? Or simply integrate one into the existing terrain editor? Also, rearm pads do not work in the TE; at least not manually created ones. This probably belongs in the TE forum, but since this thread is here I'd thought I'd ask you.

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Title: Hitech........
Post by: hblair on May 03, 2001, 05:24:00 PM
Nice ideas moose. The repair in the hangar would be cool. Maybe have them sit there for 1.5 minutes for that?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Hitech........
Post by: G10Whore on May 03, 2001, 05:39:00 PM
"I have never seen this requested but would be glad to put this on the list to thing to change"

I guess people figured it was so much of a no-brainer but you guys didnt want it that way

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Post by: Vulcan on May 03, 2001, 05:41:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Staga:
Golly-gee Lancaster can refuel/reload next to that hut but one frigging 109 crashes on it ?

I believe the Lanc wing passes OVER the hut.

Title: Hitech........
Post by: Mr. T on May 03, 2001, 05:47:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by moose:

Also, another suggestion I saw was that when you drive into a hanger, your aircraft could be fixed in a manner similar to how you refuel.


Oh dear geezus.... why not just throw in some "health", "invincibility", "quad damage" and "armor power ups" that float around the sky and if you're lucky enough to fly through one you get it.......

No thanks, you're pushing the insta-action quake type envelope a little bit too much right there.
-SW

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Post by: Jigster on May 03, 2001, 06:53:00 PM
Well, I have a suggestion... that the damage model for collisions with stationary objects (er ground in this case, but it might include structures) ought to go back to the old one we use to have...

the problem with ditchs has already been solved, it would be so nice to skid and flop about a bit before you exploded after smacking the ground  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Post by: Arlo on May 03, 2001, 07:24:00 PM
Alex .... I'll take "no brainers" for 100.

"This AHBB poster claimed that Cessna aircraft are the perfect bumper car and going 'four wheelin' in them doesn't do all that much damage."

(Arlo presses buzzer first)

"Arlo?"

Who is G10potato?

""Correct for a hundred. Still your category."

Alex, I'll take "Juvenile Deliquents" for 200. Errr .... I mean, same category for 200.

;o)

 
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Originally posted by G10potato:


I guess people figured it was so much of a no-brainer but you guys didnt want it that way




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-Arlo
Title: Hitech........
Post by: moose on May 03, 2001, 08:44:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by moose:

Oh dear geezus.... why not just throw in some "health", "invincibility", "quad damage" and "armor power ups" that float around the sky and if you're lucky enough to fly through one you get it.......

No thanks, you're pushing the insta-action quake type envelope a little bit too much right there.
-SW


I fail to see how your plane being repaired in a hanger by a 'ground crew' is Quakish. I think it'd be a feature some people use, and there doesn't seem to be any way to *abuse* it. However, I am open minded so I'm all ears.

Hitech, any opinions on this idea?


ps - i think that this would mean that drex would probably rack up 30 kill sorties  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Post by: Fatty on May 03, 2001, 09:03:00 PM
Let it hit the shed and survive, then inexplicably snap in a later dogfight pulling a high-g turn.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Post by: hblair on May 03, 2001, 09:14:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Mr. T:

Oh dear geezus.... why not just throw in some "health", "invincibility", "quad damage" and "armor power ups" that float around the sky and if you're lucky enough to fly through one you get it.......

No thanks, you're pushing the insta-action quake type envelope a little bit too much right there.
-SW


Yes, second thought, having the aircraft repaired in the hangar is very far-fetched. Everybody who is somebody knows aircraft are repaired in automotive repair shops

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Post by: juzz on May 03, 2001, 09:58:00 PM
That's where Mr. T gets his van fixed, and it FLIES!!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Hitech........
Post by: Mr. T on May 03, 2001, 10:05:00 PM
Alright, if we are going to have planes repaired in hangars too, lets take it a step further.

Blatantly Obvious Information Alert:
A sortie is taking off and landing. Several sorties are taking off, landing, repeat.

So, lets start chalking up sorties each time you come to a complete stop on the ground.

Then I'm all for a repair hangar.... lets see how many use it then.

I thought the repair/rearm idea was the end of that... but guess not.

If we are going to keep with the "I want to keep the same plane so I can continue my streak" idea, then we best start chalking up sorties each time you land and take off again.
-SW
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Post by: Jigster on May 03, 2001, 11:50:00 PM
Oh btw...

to add a little relavent information to this thread, a friend and I were rolling his 172 back into the hanger a year or so ago...and in order to get the nose wheel over the hanger door rails, we had to push it rather hard. In the process we were trying to manuver the tail back towards a pair of Beechcraft Barons.

Unfortunately the right elevator hit one of the Baron's props (AND THIS WAS BARELY MOVING!) and cracked the plastic corner/joint and bent the end of the right  elevator before we could stop it (just a slight bounce really).

The panel had to be replaced. Granted a WWII fighter is *slightly* tougher, even small defencientcies in the aerodynamic surfaces can cause major problems.

But honesty, how do you hit a pole?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Our incendent was clearly that of lazy Baron pilots who didn't move their planes fully back into the hanger before latching the parking brake  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/redface.gif)
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Post by: hblair on May 03, 2001, 11:58:00 PM
lol seawulfe, you act like this personally offends you.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Take a pill. Why go on the attack when people are just offering up ideas?
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Post by: Nash on May 04, 2001, 03:47:00 AM
Jesus G10potato try not to be such a goof.

A whole thread devoted to "duh I bumped into something and my plane broke".

And yer like, totally serious about it.

Pffftt.
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Post by: AG Sachsenberg on May 04, 2001, 08:13:00 AM
This land and rearm and it it still a single sortie cracks me up.  If I'm not mistaken as soon as you land/taxi and and rearm, then take off isn't that sortie 2?  

I know after reading many books where pilots killed 5-10 AC in 1 day they flew multiple sorties, many times just to rearm and refuel.  But it was counted as a sortie after each landing.  What we have here is a way to pad stats and thats it.

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Title: Hitech........
Post by: Cobra on May 04, 2001, 08:22:00 AM
No, its a way to simulate streaks.

That's all, and I like it.

I do not agree with the repair thing though.  I think refueling/re-arming is enough.

Cobra
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Post by: hblair on May 04, 2001, 08:29:00 AM
Cobra! You're supposed to agree with us man!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Glad you could join us on that jabo run last night. Had a blast.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Hitech........
Post by: hitech on May 04, 2001, 10:47:00 AM
On the repair, we could do that, but I would wan't it to be scored just as if you exited and replained so in the end it would just add more imersion, and the ablity to replane from a closed field.

HiTech
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Post by: anRky on May 04, 2001, 11:01:00 AM
hitech:
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...so in the end it would just add more imersion, and the ablity to replane from a closed field.
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I *LIKE* this idea!

anRky