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Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: osage on December 23, 2002, 11:39:29 AM
Alleged infrared combat footage from Afghanistan (http://www%2emilitary%2ecom/NewsContent?file=FL_video_121802)

Unmercifully devastating.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: Innominate on December 23, 2002, 12:05:32 PM
You must have missed it being posted a few weeks ago before the news media caught on. :D
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: Toad on December 23, 2002, 12:59:16 PM
Yeah, it was disturbing.


First they get the green light to shoot and almost right away they get a hold fire order quickly followed by a clear to shoot order again.

I thought we had that all sorted out by now.

And the failure to flatten the mosque was a bit disturbing too. But, hey, you can't expect everything.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: LePaul on December 23, 2002, 01:48:02 PM
Geeesh, how many times are people going to post this and think its breaking news  :confused:

Watched it, love it, wish they'd used a Daisy Cutter on the Mosque  :o

to the AC-130 Crew   Job well done, give em hell!

(http://www%2emilitary%2ecom/Data/EQG/ac130-4.jpg)
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: osage on December 23, 2002, 02:34:01 PM
I'm unable to hang out much on the boards so I don' t know what's been posted.  I don't apologize for reposting though.

It gave me *extreme* satisfaction to see some of those diddlying roaches blasted to diddly-all (I lost friends at WTC).

Those toejambirds didn't know if they was diddlyed, snakebit, or time to wind their wristwatches.

Payback is truly a squeak.

Bummer about the dust and body parts in the mosque though.  

Not.

No mercy.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: AKIron on December 23, 2002, 05:14:57 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
What was the target? Who were those people?


Evidently not the mosque, just the people coming out of it. Maybe Taliban/Al-Queda? Afghanistan most likely, don't you think?
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: AKIron on December 23, 2002, 07:42:37 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Most certainly legitimate targets, but the blatant disregard for human life and talk about demolishing holy places by some of you guys disgust me. Guess you haven't seen war ... except in front of a TV eating popcorn. I SO disrespect you.


Holy people make a place holy. People that kill indiscriminately and abuse women and children are not holy and neither are their places of worship, just my opinion.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 23, 2002, 08:13:26 PM
Why do you play a computer game that does just that? By playing a combat, combat as in war and killing and burning and stuff, simulator you loose any morally superior position. And yes I know exactly what you are going to say, and I do think it's close enough. Also it's much different than the other thing.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 23, 2002, 08:15:59 PM
Osage is the only one who made the comments anything remotely close to "Yeah! Look at them burn!" and by his own account he had people he knew in the WTC towers.

I think he's entitled to disregard the "human life" that took (or helped take) the lives of the people he knew.
-SW
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: rc51 on December 23, 2002, 08:26:38 PM
Well GScholz forgive us if we are looking for a little payback!
After all It was OUR country that was attacked by a bunch of fanatics!! not your's.......
And no america is not a country of war mongers! .
So slam us all you want but jusrt remember when the next Hitler comes along and takes over europe again who will come save your soory little tulips once again!
Thats right good old uncle sam and his country of war mongers!
So to all those in europe that have an opinion on america!
Keep it to your selves cause with out us you would all be goose stepping to the work camps right about now!
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: rc51 on December 23, 2002, 08:32:56 PM
Sitting in front of the tv indeed LOL.
love muffin america has seen more wars than your country ever will!
Why you might ask?
Cause when asked buy allies we send our young to protest the fredoms of those who cannot protect them selves!
I swear to God I was next to you right now !!!!!!!!!!!
Man I seldom get this pissed but this clown struck a big nerve in me .
Sry for my ramblin but the one thing i hold dear is my love of our great country and for all those men and women who have died so i CAn sit on my sofa and eat pop corn and watch tv!
GOD Bless the USA
PS
Happy birthday Jesus.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 23, 2002, 08:39:17 PM
If you lost someone in the towers, you'd be singing a different tune.

No, not all human life is precious... especially not the kind that wants nothing more than for you to die.
-SW
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: rc51 on December 23, 2002, 08:44:41 PM
I would hope they didnot.
Our fighting people are pros!!!
They have a job to do and they did it.
I but i cant help but feel that they felt good knowing that they may have killed some of the people responsable for 9-11
The taking of a human life is never an easy thing to do.
Thank God I have never been in a position to have to do just that.\
On that point i do agree with you.
In this day and time the fact that we have to resort to acts of war to keep the peace has always confused me.
But it is a fact that in power comes security.
Never forget we lost almost 3k inocent civillian people on 9-11.
Not people who by choice put temseves in harms way but working people mothers father sons and daughters.
If as an american i am really touchy please forgive me i am sure as in time we as a country will heal from this gapping wound left on our society.
I spent my time in the US ARMY i trained for war I was ready fro war but thank God allmighty i never saw war.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: SOB on December 23, 2002, 09:04:24 PM
I watched the video, and I enjoyed both the awe of it and the thought that the people being killed on it were willing members of a terrorist organization bent on ending my way of life.  I wouldn't equate it with a flight sim, because there were actually lives being lost, not virtual.  I'm glad they're dead.  In short, diddly them.

If you don't like me now or think I'm a bad person, fine.  It's your right to think that.  But it doesn't make you any more right than it does me.

Merry Christmas!  :)


SOB
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 23, 2002, 09:15:34 PM
What war you fight in? Maybe you being one who has seen combat gives you some right to moralize but there are way too many here who have not and then they go telling everyone how evil it is to be facinated by that video.

Basically to me it's quite simple, those guys on the tape made 911 happend, they planned it, trained it or suported it joyfully. So as SOB said diddly them.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: Ridge on December 23, 2002, 11:04:52 PM
I've seen that posted at my main forum, http://www.netwings.org

I really do wonder if that was the wedding that was shot up earlier this year...
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: AKIron on December 24, 2002, 08:58:39 AM
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Originally posted by Ridge
I've seen that posted at my main forum, http://www.netwings.org

I really do wonder if that was the wedding that was shot up earlier this year...


What makes you wonder that? Because there were people near a mosque? It's not like the US where the only time many folks ever see the inside of a church is a wedding. There weren't many there if it was a wedding.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: mrfish on December 24, 2002, 12:14:41 PM
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Originally posted by osage

Those toejambirds didn't know if they was diddlyed, snakebit, or time to wind their wristwatches.
 


hehe, i love osage. :)
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: SOB on December 24, 2002, 01:24:08 PM
Is Osage still in the squad?  Hard to tell now that we've lowered our standards down to the AssAssIns level - ie, we'll let any idiot join.  If he is, why the hell haven't I seen him post any porn lately?!


SOB
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: -duma- on December 24, 2002, 06:02:45 PM
Doubt anyone loses sleep over this lot, only the consequences of persuing them. Waiting for the UK civilian population to take a hit over Iraq. Personally I think western countries should scale back involvement in foreign affairs and let other people be the bogeymen for once. Long term it'll save more lives, screw short term morality.
Seems we're buggered either way on Iraq to me but if I was calling the shots both the US and UK'd lie low in the region for a few more years.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: OIO on December 24, 2002, 07:03:03 PM
Actually, whether it was a mosque or a church or a Wicca circle, it doesn't matter.

Send some 40mm their way (or whatever that thing was shooting).

Disturbing? Perhaps. Wrong? Perhaps. Civilized? Its war, civilization is defined by the winner. Next!

What do you do if your enemy, knowing you wont bomb a mosque, starts hiding.. umm.. in mosques?

Duma: Its unavoidable. Economic ties make "ignoring" other nation's be suicidal. Imagine for a moment the UN had not "mobilized" for the Gulf War. Iraq wouldve had a huge influx of oil money, which very probably wouldve ended up in their biochem/nuke program. Then what do you do? When they begin to export said stuff or use it on their neighbors... what can you do? In the long run you end up facing Iraq armed with WMD's AND no fear or regrets to use them screwing up the whole region because .. umm.. I dunno, they need lebensbraum or some other lame excuse to pull the trigger and conquer.
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: Soviet on December 24, 2002, 11:59:03 PM
POK POK DOT
Title: AC-130 is kinda spooky
Post by: LePaul on December 25, 2002, 03:37:08 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
I cannot claim to have lost friends in any terrorist act, but I have lost friends in war. I know the anger and hatred for my enemy that those losses bestowed in me, but I didn't enjoy firing my rifle at them and seeing them fall. Call me a clown, but that's how I feel.

I know 9/11 had a tremendous psychological effect on your nation. It was an unprecedented attack on civilians on US soil. I understand your anger and sympathize with your craving for revenge.


Umm, if you are referring to my response...you won't yank a retraction from me.  I served in the United States Air Force during the Gulf War and didn't just do the couch potato role you seem to stereotype our nation as being.

Get over yourself.  War is hell, and they brought it on themselves.  Offened by our gloating as we send those "holy warriors" back to Alla in pieces?  Too bad.  Funny how we are expected to respect their "religon of peace" while they procliam Jihads and other "holy wars" against us in the name of their faith.

to you for serving as a Peacekeeper...but don't lecture our citizens for feeling ashamed for seeing those bastards getting their deserved ends.

I know its not politically correct nowadays, but simply stated, you can't please everyone.  And clearly, I'm not pleasing you.  Sorry!