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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Mandie on December 23, 2002, 03:40:01 PM
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I just wanted to let all the people who i am friends with know that I am leaving AH for a while , some of the people were rude to me and im impatient to take the time to learn to get better,So i just wanted to thank all the people who were nice to me and goodluck,byeness everyone
all
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What do you mean rude? As in you asked for help and folks told ya to p*** off or what.
I know a few folks who would be willing to help you out in terms flying and surviving in the main.
But onething about online games is you cant take anything from what folks say to heart. You need a some what thick skin and learn to view things with a grain of salt.
I dont know you but if you are quitting ah because you are having trouble getting the hang of things you may have asked the wrong people.
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Well Mandie. I can see from the threads posted that you have had to deal with more then your fair share of morons. I wish you the best. Not all if us are as simple as the fools that caused your dis-satisfaction with this game.
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And them so-called moderators ain't doing a damn thing other than shutting up the more prominent foul mouthed bellybutton bandits.
But there's still a hundred other bellybutton bandits that use l33t lingo to circumvent the auto-mute, or the moderators just don't shut 'em up.
There needs to be something forcefully imposed... something like if you mention anything regarding politics, use l33t lingo, or simply type more than 3 sentences onto channel 1 in less than 15 minutes- they ban yo ass.
-SW
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Mandie;
That DeathPig incident was absolutely foul and disturbing.:mad: Unfortunately I was there to witness that whole thing and I was dumbfounded that he was able to transmit such filth for like 10 minutes on radio. At the same time Shane was complain on CH1 that he was just warned/muted for saying “dweeb” (but that’s a different thread)
But you should do some or all of the following if you still want to fly without all the hassle.
A) Change your ID and come back as something new and don't use vox. That way all these testosterone dweebs will not bother you.
B) Sign up with a squad that protects their own.
C) Don't give these dweebs the satisfaction of having run you off.
Good luck!
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SW, "something" will only be done when the community decides to do it.
We should police ourselves, and make sure that those who act inappropriately know how the community feels.
Looks like we all owe Mandie an apology for not treating her as a part of our on-line "brother / sister hood"
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I'll police myself, gimme rights to the kick/ban command... misspell a word, and I'll ban yo ass.
Until then, my hands are tied.
-SW
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Too bad Mandie.... I'll miss your "byeness"
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This is soo dissapointing to read. I sincerely hope you decide to stay Mandie, please don't let this foul mouthed person drive you from Aces High. On the whole the community is very friendly and I've made some very good friends here. I hope the person that caused you to want to leave has been banned by HTC as we certainly do not need that kind of stupid behaviour online.
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Mandie,
I don't know you and I think I remember seeing you online once, havn't been playing much lately. I hate the fact you are letting rude people drive you away. We need more ladies here to help put a cushion of civility on the overall air of things.
Hope you have fun in whatever you decide to do but no matter where you go there will be morons galore. I have two daughters and two grand daughters and I would hate it if the same happened to them.
Good luck! :)
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Mandie,.send me an email about the problems. Thanks. I look forward to hearing form you.
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I sure hope you stay Mandie. There are some mean spirited children who play the game. However, the vast majority is good people.
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Oh Mandie, you came and you gave without taking... nevermind. That kid was a moron. Don't leave just on his account. If you need help on the flying end look me up or ask for any of Brewster Buffalos (Knights) and we're always willing to help.
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Originally posted by MWHUN
Mandie;
That DeathPig incident was absolutely foul and disturbing.:mad: Unfortunately I was there to witness that whole thing and I was dumbfounded that he was able to transmit such filth for like 10 minutes on radio. At the same time Shane was complain on CH1 that he was just warned/muted for saying “dweeb” (but that’s a different thread)
But you should do some or all of the following if you still want to fly without all the hassle.
A) Change your ID and come back as something new and don't use vox. That way all these testosterone dweebs will not bother you.
B) Sign up with a squad that protects their own.
C) Don't give these dweebs the satisfaction of having run you off.
Good luck!
Plain and simple, she should not have to do that. For the most part, we're all adults. I'm begining to wonder about most though.
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My god, you really got the worst of it, looking at those posts.
For myself i wasn't prepared to give up 'flying' because of a minority of idiots. I changed my id, don't use vox and even now always fly with CH1 squelched. It's a pain, cos I think vox is a great feature on AH, maybe some day i'll seek out a squad that I can trust. I think an all female squad would be a huge step backwards (be tragic if an online community in 2002 was as mature as the US public in the 40s: we wouldn't be allowed to fly combat flights).
I hope you find a way to play and enjoy it.
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Mandie,
Please please just take a break and think it over. You leaving will be ours and HTC's loss for sure !! Of that I am 200% positive.
As mentioned, you need somewhat of a think skin in here and be able to shrug things off or as a last resort squelch the 500% total lamers who do or did make you feel this way.
A great attitude like yours is hard to come by and brightened every second of our flying time that you were online.
I know you recently joined our squad, The SPECIALISTS, and I hope your time with us was good. I think it was from my correspndence with you via e-mail.
Forget those fools!!!
From the responses, I'm sure you can tell for every 'character' who didn't give you respect, there were at least a dozen or more who did. Maybe some of them silently, but they were willing to stand with you when the times got tough.
As for the learning curve, we didn't have to much time to get into that but you have to remember that AH isn't as easy as checkers and probably tougher than chess. You have to take little steps and gradually things will get better, that I can guarentee.
Stay happy and posistive and don't let the 'badies' get you down.
They show how foolish they are and you can show how strong you are.
Your CO and friend,
fuzeman
[ I'll even promise not to put you on KP duty for a whole year!!
And I mean next year, not just this one :) ]
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Dearest Mandie...
I am truely disheartened to hear that you are leaving us here in AH. I have had the privledge of having you as a member of my squad, and the honor of having you as a friend. You are a gentile heart and spirit and you will go far. This community will be the less with your absence. I speak for us all in the community when I offer you my most sincere apology for the treatment that you have endured at the hands of these indifferent, immature, and base quality individuals. No one deserves the indignity of being on the receiving end of such nonsence and degradation. I am ashamed of those who perpatrated these attacks against you, but aswell, I am ashamed that we, who are the decent and rule abiding, will sit idly by while one of our own is treated brutaly by the pedantic ravings of some testosterone driven pervert who has no sence of propriety and even less of a sence of basic morality. Shame on them, Shame on us.
I hope that you feel that you may someday return to AH. I understand your reluctance to continue, but do know this; good or bad, you made an impression. This is not such an easy task in a community filled the best of the best and the worst of the worst. You will always have a home with the fellas in the 106th Airgroup, where you can go and feel protected.
Good luck to you in all of your present and future endevours. Hope to see you back in the sky soon. until then,
Chris (CHENAULT) Chernault
C.O. 106th Airgroup, friend
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I can't agree with you more MWhun. Don't let little boys have the satisfaction.
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Sounds like some kid needs serious spanking.
Oh well, I'm sure Skuzzynator will take care of this problem :)
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Don't leave Mandie, don't let idiots get their will. I've talked to you and flown some with you and it would be a shame to loose you, specially for something like this.
Please stay, and in the future, report every little idiot that says something stupid even if he says it is just a joke, no room for such behaviors in AH.
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havnt seen you on or in messanger lately, when you see me get my attention so i can talk to you.
byeness
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Originally posted by Staga
Sounds like some kid needs serious spanking.
Oh well, I'm sure Skuzzynator will take care of this problem :)
HeHeHe good point Staga.
Mandie please dont let the jerks win.
Learn and kick there arses instead :D
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i feel bad when someone decides to leave for a reason that has basis...
not some whine about gangbanging or FM or some other chit.
<> mandie and best of whishes to you.
this part is NOT directed @ anyone specific but....
when life gives you a hard time sometimes you have to face it down ... God knows i haven't done this well myself but I just hope that by saying this people might stand up and not let the world kick them down.
on another note more light...
it would be interesting to see the testosterone struggle in the MA through a woman's eyes. i bet it's downright laughable in a sad pathetic way.
oh well my 2¢
<<>> again Mandie and all other Women of AH... keep up the good fight!
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Shoot Sorry Mandie
I didnt realize you caught the hell that you did.
Thick Skin is one thing being Harassed incessantly to the point of making AH so unpleasent is ridiculous.
Sorry to hear that this is the case.
S!
Mandie
I hope this doesnt taint your feelings toward online flight games.
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Ouch. What was said to you was abhorant and dreadful. This is supposed to be a fun pastime.
There are a few things that I have seen come from the AH community that have been truely disappointing. This is one of them. I'm sorry that you were put through that.
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Mandie,
If you would like to take a break from the MA come to H2H look for sites like JBA...or Zapkin...Shuffler...Bwidow... We run good rooms with none of the garbage going on.
I know its not the 300+ ppl rooms but with fewer people there is no were to hide. If someone was that rude on the H2H side he would never get into a room again, we are a tight group.
JBA
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Originally posted by Goth
Plain and simple, she should not have to do that. For the most part, we're all adults. I'm begining to wonder about most though.
The reason I suggested ID change and low profile on VOX is because I have seen this problem with regards to female players in the past on other online games. Matter of fact I have already met a "female" player here in AH that does this exactly so that she is not bothered by the little "jerks" that can occupy a playing environment.
Just a suggestion for her to keep flying without having all the hassle. You are right it's crappy, she SHOULD NOT have to do this, yet you see the consequences Mandie had to go through...:(
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Sorry to hear you've decided to throw in the towel, Mandie :(
When you're ready to get airborne again, come Knights and look for any of The Damned. We'd be honored to take you under our "wing" and show you the ropes. I'll wing with you anytime.
It's a shame a few neanderthals hurt you in such a crude & callous manner.
Happy holidays...
DmdMax
The Damned
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oh yeah the damned tell silat i said hi and i hope hes not angry
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Originally posted by aGirl
I think an all female squad would be a huge step backwards (be tragic if an online community in 2002 was as mature as the US public in the 40s: we wouldn't be allowed to fly combat flights).
One of the coolest squads in AW was one called Ladies of Doom. Some of the best toejam talkers were in that squad and some good pilots too.
Ack-Ack
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Ladies of Doom? Hmm .. I remeber them now, they were those young dudettes that made me eat dirt everytime i went up against them....
Ahh the good times :D
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Mandie,
I don't recall ever seeing your name flying around the game before, so I am not sure if you are in a squadron or not. But my suggestion would be to join a squadron. You can make a good group of friends that way and then you can just slowly start to ignore Channel 1 comments. However, I'd suggest you be choosy about any squadron you apply to and do a little research first. Some squadrons stress quality of individual above all other criterea and thus can be a very good group to fly with, if not always successful in score.
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Originally posted by Mandie
I just wanted to let all the people who i am friends with know that I am leaving AH for a while , some of the people were rude to me and im impatient to take the time to learn to get better,So i just wanted to thank all the people who were nice to me and goodluck,byeness everyone all
Good riddance you emotional train-wreck hag.
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I agree with my squaddie there.
If you really need some help, find a good established squad that doesn't mind new members and join up with them. Some squads are more patient with new fliers to the game but in general most will take the time to help new folks get into the game. I have been flying WB and now AH for quite a few years and they still have to be patient with me.
Don't give up on the game because of some rude folks. You will find that you will lose out on a lot of enjoyment and some good friends. Find a squad that corresponds to the time you can fly and hook up with them. Squaddies are the best friends you can get in the arena.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Good riddance you emotional train-wreck hag.
You look most of those words up yourself or has Hooked on Phonics finally started working for you.
love muffin.
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Ah, look, the "FeaTuArd Editor" from SimHQ.com is showing up defending bravely the whining of a flightsim bbs member because it might be female. So gallant. Dashing!
Have some respect for yourself, or at least your website you represent.
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>> Good riddance you emotional train-wreck hag.
Creamo, that's a completely and utterly disgusting reply. YOU are exactly the kind of person that this community does not need. After having browsed many topics on this BB, it really should be you who leaves. It's probably much too late, but follow your own advice (from the quote below), then try to grow up. You are supposed to be part of a civilized society, so at least quit acting like a boorish love muffin, please.
>> Have some respect for yourself
I hope Santa leaves a steaming load of fresh reindeer crap in your stocking this year...Merry Christmas!
ODM!!
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Amoungst other things, i got a software bundle with Janes Naval Package and WWIIOL.
Is the Rats crap that what you wish and rant about there Thuntard9?
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Originally posted by Thunder9
>> Good riddance you emotional train-wreck hag.
Creamo, that's a completely and utterly disgusting reply. YOU are exactly the kind of person that this community does not need. After having browsed many topics on this BB, it really should be you who leaves. It's probably much too late, but follow your own advice (from the quote below), then try to grow up. You are supposed to be part of a civilized society, so at least quit acting like a boorish love muffin.
ODM!!
Your mean and junk. Jeepers.
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What the ?!?!:mad:
Kind of mad I wasn't around to help when it happened. Hey want to switch account? "Mandie landed 9 kills in a P47-D30"
Anyway, moi aussi je t'aime Mandie.;)
(http://www.boardmanweb.com/party/images/0heart.gif)
Be safe, see you in a few.
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Mandie is Animal Frenchy.
(http://www.boardmanweb.com/party/images/0heart.gif)
BLOW him kisses next, he likes that.
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OMG if this is true are the FDBs finally making a form comeback?
Originally posted by Creamo
Mandie is Animal Frenchy.
(http://www.boardmanweb.com/party/images/0heart.gif)
BLOW him kisses next, he likes that.
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whos Animal?? well anywho Je t'aime frenchy
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Still don't forgive you for making me crash into that mountain Mandie :)
Log on to your brothers account someday and come wing with the Silver Fox a while. It's not right that you have to give up playing because of some idiots online. I'm sure Skuzzy will clear things up tho. Be back soon
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Creamo,
You obviously have 0 knowledge on this topic, and it shows.
But then, that doesn't seem to stop you does it?
The cream sure didn't rise to the top in your case.
fuzeman
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Creamo one of those idiots we've been talking about during this thread.
Mandie, come to the CT, very few idiots in there :)
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When you come back, look up some of these folks, they are more than willing to help you learn...it'll take time...
As far as rude goes..I know how it goes and my advice to you is to tone down a bit, don't describe yourself to these people don't talk about your age or what you look like or the fact that you are female..
it's a shame that you can't just be yourself but you'll fine that you'll be able to at least play the game and have some amount of fun..
The more you can get away with being Joe player who's learning to fly, the more honest people will be with you sadly enough. Them knowing you are female never helps anything and in fact can severely get in your way with people following you around privating you and so forth..picking a gender neutral name helps as well btw....if they find out you are female later it's not as bad cause by then you know who your friends are.
G'luck and when you come back, like I said, look up some of these good folk and get some help with your flying.
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Originally posted by Mandie
I just wanted to let all the people who i am friends with know that I am leaving AH for a while , some of the people were rude to me and im impatient to take the time to learn to get better,So i just wanted to thank all the people who were nice to me and goodluck,byeness everyone all
I am extremely saddened to read this, Mandie.... I started out in Air Warrior in July 1998, and in all that time I can count on one hand the number of times anyone has caused me any offence. I know what you went through with Deathpig, and don't blame you for being upset by such rude behaviour.... but please believe me when I say he was an exception.... most players are extremely well-behaved and courteous. In spite of what others say, I don't agree that you should hide your identity or stay off vox. You are a female player.... be proud of the fact instead - we need more female players, not less and having a low profile will solve nothing. If you need any help or advice, please feel free to email me at helen@flossy.co.uk, but please reconsider leaving; by doing that you are only letting people like Deathpig win - show them you won't be beaten and keep on playing! :)
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This is a sad reflection on us and our little game. It's a shame, and it is a problem HTC must come to grips with.
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get over it guys ... u'd think this was an AOL chatroom or something
hehe Creamo
"mandie" change ur handle to Mack and try again
Merry Christmas
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Cripes, whatever happened to "don't let the door hit you on the way out"?
Ride forth, oh protectors of Italian virginity. :rolleyes:
She could have contacted HTC about these issues ages ago. Instead she does a typical "I quit" post and ya all are falling over each other trying to be knights in shining armour. Because maybe, just maybe there are breasts somewhere behind the callsign. :p
Mandie....MAN-die. *shrug* I frickin' hope it's Animal.
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Dang sorry to hear about that Mandie. Like Eagler said, change your account, get a new name and Spit tebacker like the rest of us rednecks :D
I'll fly with ya.
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here's how it shakes out.... even if mandie is a girl... she won't go out with you... Even if she did... you would problyu find that she is the female version of your pot bellied geekyness..
Any woman that get's into one of these online games that is dominated by males from the ages of prepuberecent on up to geriatric... and uses a handle that makes her an apparent female... deserves whatever happens...
Now... the vast majority of us don't even bother... we either are happy with our current partner or are to smart to fall all over anything that may or may not be female or.. Just don't f##k with people unless they f##k with us.
I read this sickening thread just to see what wussy had quit this time and found out that it was a bunch of pot bellied virtual heroes all falling all over themselves because they had never had any interaction with a (gasp!) female before.
creamo makes more sense than anyone else short of skuzzy in this who damn thread. sickening.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
We are not recruiting.. when someone dies we will send you an application...
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Originally posted by lazs2
Any woman that get's into one of these online games that is dominated by males from the ages of prepuberecent on up to geriatric... and uses a handle that makes her an apparent female... deserves whatever happens...
I call roadkill. There are several females enjoying this sim and they deserve the same respect as everyone else.
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Mandie-
I remember flying with you in one of your early sorties on the southern tip of Mindnao.
Take the advice. Change your Handle, And join a squad that protects their own.
I'm sure we'd be more than happy to give you an evaluation if you'd like.
And always keep channel 1 squelched. It's nothing but inane babble and backed up testosterone mixed with Clearasil.
If you decide to stay,and wish to train with our Squadron, please don't hesitate to contact me at jpizzo127@yahoo.com
If you decide to leave, I wish you well in all your future endeavors.
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Originally posted by AKIron
I call roadkill. There are several females enjoying this sim and they deserve the same respect as everyone else.
Which seems to be exactly what they got, good or bad as it was.
Cobra
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iron... you miss the point.. it doesn't matter that the vast majority treat everyone with respect... the fact remains that there are enough imature sicko's who are a little slow witted that a female identified as such... will bring out some pretty strange behavior... If she doens't expect that then she is naive. For the same reason... people who are well known in real life tend to be secretive about their identities. Now... call roadkill all you want but I would put it to you that it is not so much roadkill as it is you simply burying your head in the sand or.... in this case... up someones...
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Lazs, I never said that women/girls can expect to be treated with respect by everyone, I said they deserve it. As does every one us that acts civily.
You seem to be saying that by virtue of being female in a place dominated by males that they deserve less, or is my head still in the dark?
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Seems to me you two are agreeing.
Lazs is saying they should expect less, not that they deserve less.
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"The rest of the night was spent holding Kimberly and trying to calm her tears while Borg enjoyed himself at the banquet. Feeling very much locked in our cell we took a walk on the beach together, this was somewhat healing, the surf and sand managed to calm us down a bit."
This quote came to mind while reading this thread. Females beware of virtual nerds with cameras or keyboards. That should be painfully obvious. Of course, nerds beware of virtual females.
Other than that... what Creamo and Lazs said.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Seems to me you two are agreeing.
Lazs is saying they should expect less, not that they deserve less.
If that's the case then you're right.
I've been trying to get my wife interested in flight sims for years (eternal optimist) but I've no doubt she'd lose interest in a hurry with all the sexual inuendo, vulgarity and abusiveness that goes on in the game. Females in the military put up with a lot of the same crap, doesn't mean they deserve it and doesn't make it right. The attitude that they deserve it only perpetuates it.
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Originally posted by Cobra
Which seems to be exactly what they got, good or bad as it was.
Cobra
Kind of the way I see it. If the handle had been manfred and not mandie, this thread would be filled with the typical dont let the door hit your bellybutton on the way out comebacks. I find this thread funny only in the sence that everyone wants to be that "knight in shinning armor" because as Thrawn put it, there might be a pair of breasts invloved.
Anyway, I think this is all another FDB stunt. Apparently there are a lot of newer people here that arent familiar with the FDB's :)
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Geeks hard up for a chick.
I tell you what. If an overtly homosexual male had been treated as mandy had, not one of you swinging dicks would be nice on his way out.
You dorks are falling over yourselves when we all know you wouldn't give two toejams if you didn't think she was a girl.
F.
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Sorry to have u leave, you should really try playin in CT though, there are less idiots in there, weather it be if the people are really more mature or there are just less people so less non mature people I still find it a lot nicer place than MA, which is 1 of the reasons I play CT 99% of the time I fly AH.
I havent flown in a while been busy with programming and stuff, but I try to pop in occasionally :)
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What ever happend to "respect"???
I was brought up as to respect women, not treat them as inferior or an object. I guess they would call it "old-school". I'm only 25 but hell, stuff like what Mandie has gone through is uncalled for, especially the Deathpig thing...
Yeah, you sometime joke w/ the fellas about girls, but not in front of their face.
I am hapily married and have a child on the way, so I am not in a position to try to "score" with the chicks nor do I want to.
I believe Mandie was in AW and I don't think she was treated this way.
Maybe some with harsh feelings should swallow your "manpride" and pull the ripcord on your chute and say "Good Kill, Mandie" and accept the fact that A PILOT shot you down. :)
btw Merry Christmas!!!!
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<-- now offically unsubscribed from thread.... some of you make me sick that you would let rampant disrespect go on and lessen the community.
to you and you know who you are.
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Originally posted by Furious
Geeks hard up for a chick.
I tell you what. If an overtly homosexual male had been treated as mandy had, not one of you swinging dicks would be nice on his way out.
You dorks are falling over yourselves when we all know you wouldn't give two toejams if you didn't think she was a girl.
F.
I think you'd be surprised. The point is not that we are hard up for a chick. I certainly am not. The point is that because she is female she was treated *differently* than she would've been if she had been male. If she were male, nobody would've said the things they did to her (unless they were that overtly homosexual male).
So why are you falling all over yourself telling us how hard up we are? What does that say about you?
I think Mandie should stay, keep her handle and use vox whenever she wants. If she gets any abuse other than the standard taunts as a result of one person shooting the other down, she should take a screenshot and report it.
This community doesn't need people who abuse others. A tuant here or there is one thing. Repeated harassment is another. I don't care if the person being abused is female, a gay male, a lame pig, or a sheep. The fewer idiots we have online, the more good people we will have online (because they won't get turned off at the crap that spews forth on Ch1).
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Once, at Band Camp........
Cobra
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The long and the short of it is that we pay our money to HTC to play a MMOL WW2 combat flight sim. There are plenty of places that insults can be hurled at each other, many of them don't even charge for the privelege. If y'want to behave like a mindless boor, go right ahead and use 'em. If you decide to upset folks with impoliteness in AH, go whine somewhere else if you get booted.
Personally I agree that there SHOULD be the facility to permanently squelch any individual or channel until such time as you wish to unsquelch them, if ever. Such a feature wouldnt be hurting the community because anyone upset enough by someone to squelch them isn't going to "commune" with them any way. The current system simply allows the small number of childish idiots to make things unpleasant for the better-behaved majority for longer than would otherwise be the case. Put the onus on individuals to be well-behaved, HTC; not on everyone else to have to squelch them. There's far too much bigotry and otherwise unpleasant chat seen in the arenas, IMO.
As for possible problems with moderators; if it isn't already so (I don't know; I wasn't even aware that there were such aside from the HTC folks themselves!) perhaps it could be made such that a record is automatically made of all censorial acts made by moderators in the arenas? That way if there is any argument over what has happened, it can be inspected and if need be amends made later.
It isn't just the bizarre gameplay of the MA that tends to keep me from messing around in there very often; it's also the huge amount of unpleasantly childish beahviour (I don't mean silly and inoffensive stuff, for all the nit-pickers out there...). The point about what are newcomers likely to think - and do - if they come up against some of the bigoted bad-mothing minority is a damned good one. Offensive language equates to potential lost revenue for HTC. Less revenue means less development, or taken to an extreme, no game at all.
Think about it before whining about HTC taking a firm line on the matter.
Esme
PS: as for changing ID's/handles... why? Why should one be expected to have to change from a perfectly innocuous handle that happens to be a female name to something else, simply because a few morons will tend to pick on women? Think very carefully before responding if you think you can justify a reason...
No-one should HAVE to hide their gender, race or creed because of malcontents. Its the malcontents who should be hiding, or better yet, be kicked out at high speed.
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Originally posted by Yippee38
I think you'd be surprised. The point is not that we are hard up for a chick. I certainly am not. The point is that because she is female she was treated *differently* than she would've been if she had been male. If she were male, nobody would've said the things they did to her (unless they were that overtly homosexual male).
So why are you falling all over yourself telling us how hard up we are? What does that say about you?....
Treated differently?? roadkill. Every night I see fellatio offers on ch.1. The perception of different treatment is all in relation to the sex of the offended. I have had peeps private me with things that would make a depraved sailor blush. Now if I had taken a screeny of that and posted it here with a "I am leaving" post, what would the response be? How many squads would offer me sanctuary with them?
She was treated just as poorly, and by the same jackoffs, as the rest of the MA, and that is a shame.
Oh, and I am not falling all over myself. I enjoy witnessing hypocrisy. I just wasn't sure if those perpetrating it where aware of it.
F.
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Then... why on earth HAVENT you reported the idiots to HTC? Don't you think doing so might just be a good idea. Furious?!
Esme
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Esme,
He didn't report the incidents to HTC because all of the foul messages came from his squaddies.
SOB
PS...No silly woman could ever shoot me out of the sky!
Shyaddup Yankee! :D
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Ah, fair-do's; I draw a distinction between friendly insults between friends and insulting others. What was under discussion was the latter not the former, though.
Doubtless no silly males would shoot you down either! ;-}
Esme (daft as a brush, but not so daft as to prefer planes that don't have a spare in case one engine fails! ;-) )
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You think we're friendly with our insults?! :D
SOB
PS...I have personally tricked a squaddie into ALT-F4'ing in a scenario (what a dipshit!) and also shot one down in a scenario because I had nothing else to shoot at.
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Ask Mandie. I'm fairly certain she can tell you why.
Originally posted by Esme
PS: as for changing ID's/handles... why? Why should one be expected to have to change from a perfectly innocuous handle that happens to be a female name to something else, simply because a few morons will tend to pick on women?
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I remember all my life
Raining down as cold as ice
A shadow of a man
A face through a window
Crying in the night
The night goes into
Morning, just another day
Happy people pass my way
Looking in their eyes
I see a memory
I never realized
how happy you made me oh Mandie
Well you came and you gave without taking
but I sent you away, oh Mandie
well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
I need you today, oh Mandie
I'm standing on the edge of time
I Walked away when love was mine
Caught up in a world of uphill climbing
The tears are in my mind
And nothing is rhyming, oh Mandie
Well you came and you gave without taking
but I sent you away, oh Mandie
well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today, oh Mandie
Yesterday's a dream I face the morning
Crying on the breeze
the pain is calling, oh Mandie
Well you came and you gave without taking
but I sent you away, oh Mandie
well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today, oh Mandie
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Originally posted by Creamo
Good riddance you emotional train-wreck hag.
lol yeah!:D
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Originally posted by lazs2
If she doens't expect that then she is naive.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
She's just a kid you friggin' moron and started playing when he older brother did.
ack-ack
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LOL at this thread.
Merry Christmas!
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I still think HTC should give me kick/ban powers... who's with me?????
If you aren't.. I'll ban yo ass!!!
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Kanth, you miss my point. Why should anyone feel that the solution to some moron having a go at a lass is for women to not use female names for their IDs, rather than to kick the morons out? Pay attention, m'dear! :-}
SOB, you would appear to be the kind of person that should be kicked out, on your own admission. (shrugs). Certainly anyone with your stated kind of attitude wouldnt survive long with any of the squads I've been in.
Esme
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I guess my dreams of being your squaddie are now crushed. :(
SOBbing
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Alas..there are a lotta real or mental 13 year-olds in here..just as real life--and there is a reason why most single women only use first initial in phone book..and dont list their address.
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Esme I think you are missing mine.
What happened to Mandie should not have happened.
But it 'did' and it will continue to happen.
Should it? no! But it does, and unless you are willing to deal with that on principal every_single_day, changing your name will actually fix the problem if you are discreet.
I'm a realist.
You see what I'm saying? It's not about what's right because,as players we cannot directly control other players, it's about what 'is' and how to deal with it effectively and enjoy the game as it is.
Now I can back up what I'm saying with plenty of examples of the way it is in AH, can you back up what 'should be' with any examples in AH? (by that I mean players who were banned for their behavior towards a female player, just name one for example)
p.s. I hope you are kidding about SOB.
Originally posted by Esme
Kanth, you miss my point. Why should anyone feel that the solution to some moron having a go at a lass is for women to not use female names for their IDs, rather than to kick the morons out? Pay attention, m'dear! :-}
SOB, you would appear to be the kind of person that should be kicked out, on your own admission. (shrugs). Certainly anyone with your stated kind of attitude wouldnt survive long with any of the squads I've been in.
Esme
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Originally posted by Yippee38
If she were male, nobody would've said the things they did to her (unless they were that overtly homosexual male).
You're not online much are ya?
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Originally posted by lazs2
If she doens't expect that then she is naive.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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She's just a kid you friggin' moron and started playing when he older brother did.
ack-ack"
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Well.... "moron"?? How do you figure tough guy? How would I know she was a kid? And if she is... What the hell is wrong with her "older brother" who didn't wise her up? Either way... she is learning what everyone learns eventually anyway. Well... maybe not... Maybe a tough talker hero like you can protect her from reality.
lazs
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WOW....quite the thread.
The point here is that an individual (regardless wether male or female) was treated so harshly, that they feel the only way they have to remove themselves from the situation, is to give up something that they did for enjoyment. That we, as a community, allow this to happen is a tragedy. Each and every one of us expects to recieve a certain amount of respect. Good natured needling is one thing....what has happened to Mandie is an entirely different animal, and quite frankly an outrage.
Hopefully Skuzzy will be able to make some sense out of all of this, although I think there is really limited options on his part, as to what can be done.
Mandie, you will do what you think is right for you. I can only say that the majority of the community wishes you would reconsider.
Whatever you decide, know that you are always welcome. Any squad would be better for having you as a member. You are more than welcome to wing with 421 any time you wish if you decide to stay.
And finally, for the Individuals who are uncaring, and fail to see the real issue here......welcome to the "stone-age". Grow up People.
RTR
CO 421 tfs
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wow.. first time I read this post.... cant believe you all have something to say....... she is leaving.. yes its true.. may be sad for some of you.. some of you may be glad.. ME is dont really matter if she leaves or not... maybe she should reconsider.... but if she wants to quit.. let her...
to all those uncaring people who posted in this thread as well as the people who did whatever to mandie that is making her quit...... you all ...... SUCK!!
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Yah RTS! Finally someone sees treating people so harshly and uncaring is a tragedy.
Wilbus called me an idiot, fuze made fun of my callsign, Thundtard9 wants me banned and says the community doesn’t need me and I should leave, and a boorish love muffin too boot. He even wished a weird animal poop fetish onto my joyous Christmas holiday celebration stocking!
Even a "editor" from a popular flightsim website, called me a love muffin and inferred I was illiterate and needed reading and comprehension classes by being so clever to relate my post to a infomercial class for slow learners.
Next thing you know, someone will post a link that crashes everyone’s computer.
I don’t think Skuzzy has time to weed all you bad apples out, but I think he will make sense of all this and the intent of it all.
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One of the saddest aspects of this thread is; most all of the situations brought up here had already been dealt with and so, from my perspective, this is just a rehash.
One truism I leave you with; Posting a problem on a bulletin board in a non-constructive manner usually results in nothing positive.
If people want to solve problems, then they normally approach the people that can actually help to solve the problems.