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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Zigrat on March 24, 2001, 11:32:00 AM
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why? each flight sim company excels in 1 area but is lacking in another. If they somehow all got along and worked together, we would have the perfect sim.
case in point, Aces high flight model, ballistics, and view system are #1. But other stuff, like cockpits, terrain, and special effects arent up to snuff.
warbirds has crappy ballistics, and flight model, but their new 3d terrain is real nice and they can make awesome skins for their airplanes. I wish we had this stuff in aces high.
Il-2 has *breathtaking* cockpits, and really cool looking trees and armor. But who knows how the flight model or view system will be? And the maximum supported for multiplay is 32.
Obviously aces high has the things that are most important in a sim, but i want them all. Its just too bad that no one company has acquired all the talent needed to make that happen.all.
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<insert Golf Clap here>
Animal
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Well if you leave the WW2 area, operation flashpoint is...well amazing..the demo is better than most full version games, it will be the first boxed sim I will ever pay for.
For those who dont know..Operation flashpoint is just like what WW2 OL CLAIMS to be doing, accept its set in a cold war era.. but it definatly will be a force to deal with in the upcoming future
Graphics: As good as you see anywhere today.
SYSTEM LOAD: not to bad, it runs smooth as silk on a Athlon 800 with a V5 and 128mb ram
at 1280x1024x32
Terrain: Truely revolutionary in its use of trees and bishes and forests in true 3d, for cover..ive never seen anything like it..EVER..it looks better than IL2's terrain...and it is actually here and isnt a resource hog.
Gameplay: Amazing, in soldiers aircraft, and ground vehicles, all are modeled in depth right down to the treds waving and conforming to terrain to the way the soldier's finger moves when he pulls the trigger...oh and get this WHEELS ACTUALLY ROLL (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Sound: Great, a BMP fires a shell over yer head and ya hear it wiz by and if something explods far away the sound takes longer to reach you...very well done
Stability: ROCK SOLID, havent had it crash yet, of give me ANY problems
AI: so real..its kinda freaky...cant explain it further than that..ya got to be there.
MULTIPLAYER:
about to be tested in the next few weeks AFAIK
PRICE: GOOD, You buy the sim and Multiplayer is FREE any user can host and it will be supported by gamespy and M-Player and such.
To go a bit out on a limb..it is the best game I have played... EVER.
what amazis me the most is that even if the Multiplayer is a flop it would IMO still be one of the best games ever because the AI is so well done.
However based on the level of precision and examples of sheer talent i have seen in the rest of the sim, I doubt the multiplayer will be anything less than stellar.
[This message has been edited by TheWobble (edited 03-24-2001).]
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Originally posted by Zigrat:
why? each flight sim company excels in 1 area but is lacking in another. If they somehow all got along and worked together, we would have the perfect sim.
There is no and never will be a perfect sim. Simply because number of oppinions = number of players.
And competition is good, believe me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). What your "Perfect" game will be after one year? Bad support, no updates etc.? Who need it if it is only ONE game in the market and people has no choice to switch to other game? Why to update, be polite etc.?
Fariz
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The cockpits and terrain would be *really* easy to improve upon. The special effects are just fine by me, but yeah they could be better.
The problem is, who wants HTC to go back and improve these things, rather then move forward with bigger and better? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Voss
13th TAS
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Madox games will be doing a 200+ person version apperently.
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Competition is GOOD Zigrat.
Let me put it this way: If HTC never left iEN to create AH, it would still be 2$/hr to play WB and AH wouldn't exist.
-SW
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Originally posted by Animal -FT:
<insert Golf Clap here>
Animal
Who is this imposter Animal? The -REAL- Animal would have thought of something much more witty and rude. This substitute just doesn't cut it. What next? A softspoken and timid NathBDP? I hope not.
Servo
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Don't get me wrong, I love AH but I agree that a more in depth terrain/cockpits would be beneficial to AH, even if it's just aesthetic. I like the new historic airfields and terrain in WB3, and even in WB2 the ports/cities/terrain looked better IMO.
I still think competition is good, if there was no competition I don't think we'd be getting as many new planes as we have been doing and besides, they could charge even more than the already fairly high $30 (not complaining, but stating a fact that AH is most expensive (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) .
Regards
Nexx
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whoopeeIT
Who the hell is this guy? Go get your own BBS to harrass pal.
As for zig,
Sorry, but this utopic idea of yours is just dreaming. Its not like HTC will call IEN on the phone and say "Hello friends! I am having trouble with my terrain (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) I was wondering how you did those smooth shorelines??"
Until a company comes out with a perfect online sim, this is just wishful dreaming; and its very hard that it would happen since Sim developers work on a tight budget, while the 'FRESH', 'HIP' and 'IN YOUR FACE' action game developers get a limitless budget to work on "XTREME SK8BOARDING","DEER HUNTER 7", and "EVERQUEST 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO"
Competition is GOOD. If there was no competition, we'd still be playing AIRWARRIOR: 2 at a very pricy rate; and you'd be posting a thread on why there should be more competition
[This message has been edited by Animal (edited 03-25-2001).]
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XTREME SK8BOARDING","DEER HUNTER 7", and "EVERQUEST 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO"
LOL, especially at the last one, because I remember the movie. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Heya Zig....
I have come to the conclusion that you are truly a socialist (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Cyas
Ice
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funked... you BOUGHT the movie.
ice, u can't say "socialist" on this board can you?
lazs
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what i am saying is i simply want to have a company where hitech and pyro make the flight models, etcera, those guys from IL2 make the airplanes and cockpits, and the wbs guys make the terrain wiht that cool 3d water. why cant 1 company get the best employees. If they did the other 2 would go out of business cuz their product would suck.
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I was IN the movie! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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http://www.joebob-briggs.com/bmovieguide/breakin2.html (http://www.joebob-briggs.com/bmovieguide/breakin2.html)
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what i am saying is i simply want to have a company where hitech and pyro make the flight models, etcera, those guys from IL2 make the airplanes and cockpits, and the wbs guys make the terrain wiht that cool 3d water. why cant 1 company get the best employees. If they did the other 2 would go out of business cuz their product would suck
Zig,
On behalf of Yankee, Ronni, Superfly and Natedog: You're an amazinhunk for saying that remark, and (to quote Eddie Murphy) "It's my house, and if you don't like it, get the diddly out!"
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May the Force be with you.
[This message has been edited by Yoda (edited 03-25-2001).]
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Somtimes you amaze me funked, your knowledge is funkadelic (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by TheWobble:
You said: <<Terrain: Truely revolutionary in its use of trees and bishes and forests in true 3d>>
Wobble, glad to see they're using Bishes for something :-)
I know I have no use for them. Musta been a Freudian slip :-O
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ROFL!!
i am the typo KING!
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Originally posted by Pongo:
Madox games will be doing a 200+ person version apperently.
Huh ? really ? droool......
IL-2 in large multiplayer format would be IT as far as I can see. Waiting til release to form a 'real' opinion, but it is looking good so far.
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Well its not IL-2 but made with same engine. No more info about that one :]
Snapped from Il-2 bulletinBoard:
We plan to go with massive multiplay with other title, based on IL-2 engine. In this case with massive multiplayer we'll need to charge small paiment for online play that to support servers, news/update site, develope new battles scenarios, etc.
[This message has been edited by Staga (edited 03-25-2001).]
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Will build cockpits for discounted rate! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Voss
13th TAS
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Voss ppl are already building 3D-Models to add to Il-2.
If you're having a 3D-Max compatible model of any planes (P-51?) they might add it to Add-On disk. Would be nice to see more U.S planes than just P-39 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I would like to have Hangtimes original P-51D Cockpit modeled by HiTech. This baby is great for long flights and guys that get on your 6 and scare the crap out of you! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://www.13thtas.com/images/spoof/hangs51.jpg)
(http://www.13thtas.com/images/sig/thsig.jpg)
[This message has been edited by Thunder (edited 03-25-2001).]
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Originally posted by Staga:
Voss ppl are already building 3D-Models to add to Il-2.
If you're having a 3D-Max compatible model of any planes (P-51?) they might add it to Add-On disk. Would be nice to see more U.S planes than just P-39 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I don't wanna do Il-2, and what HTC has is functional, so I'll just make pictures and call it art! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Man, this game is a kick!
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Voss
13th TAS
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Remember B-17II ?
How it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and nothing on the market would even compare?
Oh yah, and it was gonna have the coolest Multiplayer option.. the next best thing to standard online only flight sims?
Ummmm... Yah right. We saw how that turned out.
(Nothing against IL-2, I just hate it when people hype a product to death, and they have never even done more than looked at the screenshots. WWIIOnline comes to mind as well)
Wait till its out, and we can judged it by its merits once its released. Until then, its just a concept, some promises, and a few screenshots. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Yeah I agree with Verm.
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Exactly Verm. The whole B-17 II thing is what got me involved here in AH. We were using AH as a tool to learn so that we could transfer over to B17 II and have an idea of what we were doing. Well Hasblo screwed that all up for us and I ended up keeping my subscription here and I am having a blast. I might try out the other ones when and IF they ever come out, but its gonna have to be one hell of a sim to get me outta here.
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Sling322
Not a Monitor!
Fat Drunk Bastards