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Title: AH voice missing
Post by: roofer on December 24, 2002, 07:15:47 PM
i downloaded the current download,  when my computer crashed, and i don't have aces high voice,

i have re-installed the ah game three times it doesn't dseem to fix it

shouldn't there be a file called AH vioce?

no voice is frustrating

i didn'r realize i missed it that much

please help...merry christmas!
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: roofer on December 27, 2002, 12:59:06 PM
i've updated and tried everything

"not recieving updates switched to tcp"

is a message i get when i get online...

does this help?
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: Skuzzy on December 27, 2002, 01:13:34 PM
Voice is built-in to Aces High and no longer an external program.

The network switch could be related to firewalls, anti-virus programs, general problems with your connection to your ISP...Lot of things could be the culprit here.

What does a trace/PingPlot to 216.91.187.37 look like?
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: roofer on December 27, 2002, 05:22:56 PM
i'm not sure how to do that...i will call you [tech support]
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: roofer on December 27, 2002, 06:15:35 PM
ok found that...no response....none recieved
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: roofer on December 28, 2002, 12:25:05 PM
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

my isp provider says all thier settings are automatic, there is no way to check them

I have my virus turned off, all my web page settings on "low"

basically my pants are around my ankles and i'm bent over...still nothing...

i am basically inafective to my squad, and it makes flying how should i say...boring.

i never knew how much the new voice has changed aces high till i was rendered deaf and mute.

hellen keller patiently awaits some advice

"oh no, there goes tokyo go go GoZilla"
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: Dennis on December 28, 2002, 12:54:08 PM
Hey roofer.

There have been a lot of bug complaints about AH voice vanishing. I don't think anyone's found a common cause, yet.
It started happening to me some time ago; was never able to put my finger on what changed with my configuration to cause it, but I did find a workaround.

Do your squadies say you transmit a sort of squawling noise when you key the mic?  You can test and see what others hear when you transmit by tuning channel 5 directly to your own gameid (i.e. type in roofer, if that's your handle online, and close the radio interface by hitting 'enter').  
Key the yellow channel and speak into the mic.  After a short delay you'll hear what others hear.

Every time I have to boot my computer, I lose AH vox and start transmitting an electronic squawl.  Here's what I do to fix it:

Go to settings>constrol panel>sounds and multimedia, and click the 'voice' tab and run the sound hardware wizard.  
Once I do this, my AH vox works fine -- until the next time I have to boot the 'puter.
(Sorry, I have Windows Me, your path could be different...)

At the risk of hijacking the thread, if Skuzzy has an idea why I might be losing vox when I boot -- and only when I boot -- I'd be listening...
I have my computer's oem sound card, a Creative Soundblaster AudioPCI 64V (WDM).  Sound acceleration is set to 'standard.'

Splash1
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: roofer on December 28, 2002, 02:47:47 PM
at this point i will jump on one leg with a finger in my ear...

i will give that a look-see and see if it solves anything.

GoZilla is my handle,  rook from the 81st squad
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: spiffykraits on December 28, 2002, 05:54:28 PM
If you have a firewall or router make sure UDP connection for AH is enabled, as the switch to tcp error message is significant. Sometimes it will switch to tcp when net traffic is particularly bad, but my vox always made sqawking noises when tcp only was getting through and nothing was heard from my squad or anyone else, it seems to need good udp connection for vox.

If its not router or firewall, then it could be your ISP blocking udp, which they should be able to tell you.
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: spiffykraits on December 28, 2002, 06:03:26 PM
p.s. Run the dx diagnostics (dxdiag in run box) and turn down sound hardware acceleration a notch -see if that helps.
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: roofer on December 28, 2002, 07:04:53 PM
"your sound card does not support buffering"


"sounds will only play back from software buffers"


does this help???
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: roofer on December 29, 2002, 02:08:01 PM
can someone walk me thru un-installing direct x?

that is the only thing that is different on my system, that i think could be the problem...or maybe i'm wrong

helllllllllllllllllp!

i really don't want to buy a new computer just to play this game...but i will if i have to!

THAT is how fanatic i am over aces high

GoZilla
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: spiffykraits on December 30, 2002, 09:24:54 AM
Quote
Originally posted by roofer
"your sound card does not support buffering"


"sounds will only play back from software buffers"


does this help???


That is normal for on-board sound chips, as long as you DO hear sounds using the software buffer tests, the hardware ones are ignored by directX and you get the message above. I assume you have an on board sound chip. These work perfectly well in AH usually.

If sound disappears after it is present after a reboot its more likely you have a conflict in sharing with another PCI device, so what is the sound chip interupt sharing with  (use system information in accessories menu and the interupt listing there to find out. )
It will probably need moving to another interupt to cure your problem.

If you have re-installed directX 8.1 it won't be a problem with directX.
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: DAVENRINO on December 30, 2002, 12:53:05 PM
roofer,
I haven't tried it myself.   DJ229

Defiance
Senior Member

Registered: Apr 2001
Location: UK (up for adoption to broadband home)
Posts: 231
 DX Buster/Remover (works great with DX9)
Hiya's,
Found a DX remover that works fine with DX9

Goto link and d/load it http://pcmedicdirect.com/downloads/...ter/dxb133e.exe

It will install into prog files
Run it and you will see 3 tabs with step options 1/2/3
Goto 3rd tab and click start
It will ask ok to proceed etc
After that it will ask for a reboot
When back in windose install DX version you want
DX will ask to reboot

Job Done

Works with 9x and 2000 i believe
My OS is now 98SE and i removed DX9 back to DX8.1 easy as pie

Hope this helps anyone who is getting slight freezing after upgrading to DX9


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Title: AH voice missing
Post by: Dingbat on December 30, 2002, 02:10:24 PM
In my experience, it's the on board cards that are the problem.  I had a CMEDIA onboard sound, because at the time I skimped out on the SBLive for a couple weeks.  Once I put the SBLIVE in, I have had 0, none, zip VOX drop outs.  spend a few bucks 30 i think and get a SBLIVE OEM card.
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: Skuzzy on December 30, 2002, 02:52:47 PM
Yep, onboard sound chips are horrible for gaming.  Before you post about how you have no problems with yours, know this.

The reason they are a bad idea is due to the lack of hardware buffers, which all PCI based cards have.  With no hardware bufffers, the CPU must spend time babysitting the data in a software buffer, instead of just offloading it to the sound card.

In other words, it is a cheap solution.  As with most cheap solutions, it will usually haunt you.
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: Dingbat on December 30, 2002, 04:32:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Yep, onboard sound chips are horrible for gaming.  Before you post about how you have no problems with yours, know this.

The reason they are a bad idea is due to the lack of hardware buffers, which all PCI based cards have.  With no hardware bufffers, the CPU must spend time babysitting the data in a software buffer, instead of just offloading it to the sound card.

In other words, it is a cheap solution.  As with most cheap solutions, it will usually haunt you.



Scuzzy, MAKE THIS POST STICKY :)
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: Skuzzy on December 30, 2002, 04:51:05 PM
Hehe, Dingbat,..experience has taught me most people have to beat thier ahead against the wall at least once before figuring things out. :D

One story serves to remind me of this.

A friend of mine, who does a nice job of maintaining his computer always ranted and raved about how good some companies drivers are compared to the thing I used.
One night at a LAN party, we happen to be on the same team playing UT.
His computer locked up on two occasions, once blue-screening on him.

I looked over at him and asked, "Does it do that a lot?"  He says, "Yea, the game is pretty buggy".

Now I didn't have a crash all night.


It suddenly occurred to me.  He had driver problems, but was instead blaming the application for the problem, instead of what the real problem was.
So in his mind, the his was better and the app was the problem.

Same thing applies.  People are generally reluctant to beleive the product they just bought has a problem and it is easier to blame the application.
So, very rarely, will I even try to disuade people from making a potentially bad choice.

It also works in the reverse.   I won't recommend at ATI user buy a NVidia card, and will not recommend a NVidia user buy an ATI card.
They will both find problems with the video card, even if it is an application problem.
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: DAVENRINO on December 30, 2002, 06:15:56 PM
Skuzzy,



Quote
The reason they are a bad idea is due to the lack of hardware buffers, which all PCI based cards have. With no hardware bufffers, the CPU must spend time babysitting the data in a software buffer, instead of just offloading it to the sound card.


I am curious about the lack of Hardware buffers; although it really doesn't matter much to me since I DO NOT have any sound related issues with my puter.  I run full sound acceleration and everything ,including AH voice works great.  I just ran DXDiag and 8 of the directsound tests were from a hardware buffer and the other 8 were software.  Is that typical of onboard sound or does Nforce MCP use something extra?
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: spiffykraits on December 30, 2002, 06:47:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Yep, onboard sound chips are horrible for gaming.  Before you post about how you have no problems with yours, know this.

The reason they are a bad idea is due to the lack of hardware buffers, which all PCI based cards have.  With no hardware bufffers, the CPU must spend time babysitting the data in a software buffer, instead of just offloading it to the sound card.

In other words, it is a cheap solution.  As with most cheap solutions, it will usually haunt you.


You may be right, but I don't usually have a problem in AH with  onboard sound, no crashes or lockups generally.  I may get a CTD once in a blue moon, always after an auger, but very rarely. I don't think Ive had one at all this month, and seems not much problem after the auger bug was fixed.

I have an SB live I bought at the same time with the PC bits (home build) which I could use and which I did intend to fit, but have been too lazy to swap it, as on test the onboard worked well < shrug >
 
Mine is a SIS based audio Controller SiS 7012 with the AC97 Codec used with a SiS645 Ultra MB and Intel 1.7GHz CPU.

 Doesn't seem to slow the CPU down much, getting about 60-70 fps generally, and vox works perfectly. Perhaps I've been lucky, but I did make sure video, sound and network card are all on different interupts.

I've not been enamoured of the latest SB cards, what would our readers recommend? :)
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: Dingbat on December 30, 2002, 07:26:43 PM
Quote


I've not been enamoured of the latest SB cards, what would our readers recommend? :)



I've never used one but I hear the TurtleBeach Santa Cruz is a good card.
Title: AH voice missing
Post by: Dingbat on December 30, 2002, 07:31:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
A friend of mine, .......


Sounds like a guy I work with too,  but his kick is AMD rocks, and Intel blows chunks.  Well I've built over 10,000 machines (no Joke) and I've seen more issues with AMD than INTEL, but they both have their issues.  AMD is still fairly young in the Processor market, they have a lot of promise but I personally feel they need to work on chipsets, the Proc's are fine.  Basically it's a sum of all the parts that make a good box.  Software included.