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Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: fd ski on December 25, 2002, 11:28:35 AM
I'm sure all of those look familar :

Well, see if you can do this:
For A6M2 write out:
full name Mitsubushi A6M2 "Zero"
short name ( your discresion here ), try to use the "pilot talk" ie: Zeke 22

Here is the list !!!

A-20G Boston III
A6M2
A6M5b
Ar 234B
B-17G
B-26B
B5N2
Bf 109E-4
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-10
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 110C-4b
Bf 110G-2
C.202
C.205
C-47A
D3A1
Elco 80' PT Boat
F4F-4
F4U-1
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4
F6F-5
FM2
Fw 190A-5
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
Hurricane IIC
Hurricane IID
Hurricane Mk I
Il-2 Type 3
Ju 87D-3
Ju 88A-4
Ki-61-I-KAIc
Ki-67
La-5FN
La-7
Lancaster III
LVT(A)2
LVT(A)4
M-16
M-3
M-8
Me 163
Me 262
Mosquito Mk VI
N1K2-J
Ostwind
P-38L
P-40B
P-40E
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-30
P-51B
P-51D Mustang
Panzer IV Type H
SBD-5
Seafire IIC
Spitfire Mk IA
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV
Spitfire V
Ta 152H
TBM-3
Tempest V
Tiger I
Typhoon
Yak-9T
Yak-9U
Title: Re: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: iceydee on December 25, 2002, 11:41:12 AM
Ar 234B - Arado
B-17G - Flying Fortress
B5N2 - Kate
Bf 109E-4 - Messerschmit 109E-4 Emil
Bf 109G-10 - 109G-10 Gustav
D3A1 - Val
F4F-4 - Grumman? F4F-4 Wildcat
F4U-1 - Corsair (Hog)
F4U-1C - Corsair (Hog)
F4U-1D - Corsair (Hog)
F4U-4 - Corsair (Hog)
F6F-5 - Hellcat
Fw 190D-9 - Dora
Ju 87D-3 - Stuka
Me 163 - Messerschmit 163 Komet
N1K2-J - Shidenkai?
P-51D Mustang
SBD-5 - Dauntless




did I do it all wrong?
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: ra on December 25, 2002, 01:19:30 PM
Quote
Ar 234B - Arado

Blitz
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: Dr Zhivago on December 25, 2002, 03:24:31 PM
http://www.hazegray.org/faq/designat.htm#t4
http://www.hut.fi/~andres/lw_nn_n.html
http://www.driko.org/usdes.html
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: davidpt40 on December 25, 2002, 05:25:50 PM
N1K2-J - George I believe.
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: udet on December 25, 2002, 06:28:01 PM
Ki 61-Tony?
P-47 Thunderbolt
Me 110 Zerstroyer?
C-47 Gooney Bird/Dakota
Me 262 Sturmbird?
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: Ike 2K# on December 26, 2002, 03:20:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by udet
Me 262 Sturmbird?


WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its Schwalbe
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: SELECTOR on December 26, 2002, 04:40:42 AM
AR234b= BLITZ
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: HanaG on December 26, 2002, 06:31:36 AM
Mitubish a6m2/a6m5... Rei-sen or Zero-sen(Type 0 fighter) 22 / 52

Kawanishi N1k2j...''Shiden-kai ''(modefied Shiden) or Shiden 21
###''Shiden'' is ''purple thunder''

Kawasaki Ki-61... ''Hien'' or 3shiki-sen (Type 3 fighter)
###''Hien'' is ''Flying swallow''

Ki-67... ''Hiryu'' or 4shiki-jyuu-baku(Type 4 heavy bomber)
###''Hiryuu'' is ''Flying dragon''

Nakajima B5N2... 97kan-kou (Type97 carrier attacker)
###No nickname

aichi D3a1... 99kan-baku (Type 99 carrier bomber)
###No nickname

 I dont like codename'George','Val','heren'....etc etc

OK, I wll call p-51 ''Katuobushi''
p-38 ''Mezashi''
B-17 ''Kuzzira'' etc etc...  ;)
These are IJN/IJ codenames.

and
M-16... ''Sky cleaner'' or ''meat chopper''

M-8... ''Greyhound''
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: whgates3 on December 26, 2002, 07:10:35 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by udet
Me 262 Sturmbird?
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Quote
Originally posted by Ike 2K#
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its Schwalbe


ja, sturmbird is JaBo version, no? maybe you can call it sturmbird if you use it for strafing...
also i would like to note that 'dora' is the term for any 'D' model A/C, not just the 190...our 'stuka' is also a 'dora' & likewise 190A & Ju88A are both 'anton', etc
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: Tracer-15 on December 26, 2002, 09:25:50 AM
P-38 Lightning = Fork Tailed Devil...i think
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: vorticon on December 26, 2002, 10:26:23 AM
do you want there "official" code names or the ones we use in game?
Title: Re: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: Midnight on December 26, 2002, 02:54:24 PM
A-20G Boston III
A6M2 = Mitsubishi A6M2 Riezen (US = zero or Zeke)
A6M5b
Ar 234B = Arado 234B "Blitz Bomber"
B-17G = Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress
B-26B
B5N2
Bf 109E-4 = Messerschmitt Bf 109E-4 "Emil"
Bf 109F-4 = Messerschmitt Bf 109F-4 "Franz"
Bf 109G-10 = Messerschmitt Bf 109G-10 "Gustav"
Bf 109G-2 = Messerschmitt Bf 109G-10 "Gustav"
Bf 109G-6 = Messerschmitt Bf 109G-10 "Gustav"
Bf 110C-4b
Bf 110G-2
C.202
C.205
C-47A = Douglas C-47A "Skytrain" (a.k.a. Goony Bird)
D3A1
Elco 80' PT Boat
F4F-4 = Grumman F4F-4 "Wildcat"
F4U-1 = Chance Vought F4U-1 "Corsair"
F4U-1C = Chance Vought F4U-1 "Corsair" (in AH, a.k.a Chog or C-hog)
F4U-1D = Chance Vought F4U-1 "Corsair"
F4U-4 = Chance Vought F4U-1 "Corsair"
F6F-5 = Grumman F6F-5 "Hellcat"
FM2 = General Motors FM-2 "Wildcat"
Fw 190A-5 = Focke Wulf Fw-190A-5
Fw 190A-8 = Focke Wulf Fw-190A-8 (a.k.a. "Butcher Bird")
Fw 190D-9 = Focke Wulf Fw-190D-9 "Dora" (a.k.a. 190 Long Nose)
Fw 190F-8 = Focke Wulf Fw-190F-8
Hurricane IIC
Hurricane IID
Hurricane Mk I
Il-2 Type 3 =  IL-2 "Sturmovik"
Ju 87D-3 Junkers Ju 87D-3 "Stuka"
Ju 88A-4 Junkers Ju 88A-4
Ki-61-I-KAIc
Ki-67
La-5FN
La-7
Lancaster III = Avro Lancaster III
LVT(A)2
LVT(A)4
M-16
M-3
M-8
Me 163 = Messerschmitt Me-163 "Komet"
Me 262 = Messerschmitt Me-262 "Schwable"
Mosquito Mk VI
N1K2-J = Kawanishi N1K2-J "Shinden-Kai" (US = George)
Ostwind
P-38L = Lockheed P-38L "Lightning"
P-40B = Curtiss P-40B "Warhawk"
P-40E = Curtiss P-40E "Warhawk"
P-47D-11 = Republic P-47D-11 "Thunderbolt" (a.k.a Jug)
P-47D-25 = Republic P-47D-25 "Thunderbolt" (a.k.a Jug)
P-47D-30 = Republic P-47D-30 "Thunderbolt" (a.k.a Jug)
P-51B = North American Aviation P-51B "Mustang"
P-51D Mustang = North American Aviation P-51D "Mustang"
Panzer IV Type H
SBD-5 = Douglas SBD-5 "Dauntless"
Seafire IIC = Supermarine Seafire IIC
Spitfire Mk IA = Supermarine Spitfire Mk IA
Spitfire Mk IX = Supermarine Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV = Supermarine Spitfire Mk XIV
Spitfire V = Supermarine Spitfire Mk V
Ta 152H
TBM-3 = General Motors TBM-3 "Avenger"
Tempest V = Hawker Tempest V
Tiger I
Typhoon = Hawker Typhoon
Yak-9T = Yakovlev Yak-9T
Yak-9U = Yakovlev Yak-9U
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: WldThing on December 26, 2002, 03:41:57 PM
B-26B = Marauder(Flak Bait)

A6M2 = Rufe?
 
La5,7... Lavochkin... La5= Mylo.

Yak...Yakolev... Yak9U=Ubiitsa

Ki67 = Peggy

Ki61 = Tony

C202..Folgore(Lighting)

Ta152H=Hohenjäger?
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: PSYKO on December 26, 2002, 06:36:19 PM
no them all but cant b stuffed typeing them all but



c-47 also called dc-3




(do u want the oficial codenames or the pilot codenames?)
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: Karnak on December 26, 2002, 06:44:10 PM
De Havilland Mosquito FB.Mk VI Series 2
Vickers Supermarine Seafire F.Mk IIc
Vickers Supermarine Spitfire Mk Ia
Vickers Supermarine Spitfire Mk Vb
Vickers Supermarine Spitfire F.Mk IX (variable gun options eliminate wing code)
Vickers Supermarine Spitfire F.Mk XIV(variable gun options eliminate wing code)
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: fd ski on December 31, 2002, 10:15:22 AM
Thanks for all replies, here is an updated list:

A-20G Boston III
A6M2 Mitsubishi A6M2 Riezen
A6M5b Mitsubishi A6M5b Riezen
Ar 234B Arado 234B "Blitz Bomber"
B-17G Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress
B-26B
B5N2
Bf 109E-4 Messerschmitt Bf 109E-4 "Emil"
Bf 109F-4 Messerschmitt Bf 109F-4 "Franz"
Bf 109G-10 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-10 "Gustav"
Bf 109G-2 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-2 "Gustav"
Bf 109G-6 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-6 "Gustav"
Bf 110C-4b Messerschmitt Bf 110C-4b "Zestroyer"
Bf 110G-2 Messerschmitt Bf 110G-2 "Zestroyer"
C.202
C.205
C-47A Douglas C-47A "Skytrain"
D3A1
Elco 80' PT Boat
F4F-4 Grumman F4F-4 "Wildcat"
F4U-1 Chance Vought F4U-1 "Corsair"
F4U-1C Chance Vought F4U-1 "Corsair"
F4U-1D Chance Vought F4U-1 "Corsair"
F4U-4 Chance Vought F4U-4 "Corsair"
F6F-5 Grumman F6F-5 "Hellcat"
FM2 General Motors FM-2 "Wildcat"
Fw 190A-5 Focke Wulf Fw-190A-5
Fw 190A-8 Focke Wulf Fw-190A-8
Fw 190D-9 Focke Wulf Fw-190D-9 "Dora"
Fw 190F-8 Focke Wulf Fw-190F-8
Hurricane IIC Hawker Hurricane Mk. IIc
Hurricane IID Hawker Hurricane Mk. IID
Hurricane Mk I Hawker Hurricane Mk. I
Il-2 Type 3 Illushin 2 "Sturmovik"
Ju 87D-3 Junkers Ju-87D-3 "Stuka"
Ju 88A-4 Junkers Ju-87D-3 "Stuka"
Ki-61-I-KAIc Kawasaki ?
Ki-67 Kawasaki ?
La-5FN Lavockin ?
La-7 Lavockin ?
Lancaster III Avro Lancaster III
LVT(A)2
LVT(A)4
M-16
M-3
M-8
Me 163 Messerschmitt Me-163 "Komet"
Me 262 Messerschmitt Me-262 "Schwable"
Mosquito Mk VI De Havilland Mosquito FB.Mk VI Series 2
N1K2-J Kawanishi N1K2-J "Shinden-Kai" (US
Ostwind
P-38L Lockheed P-38L "Lightning"
P-40B Curtiss P-40B "Warhawk"
P-40E Curtiss P-40E "Warhawk"
P-47D-11 Republic P-47D-11 "Thunderbolt" (a.k.a Jug)
P-47D-25 Republic P-47D-25 "Thunderbolt" (a.k.a Jug)
P-47D-30 Republic P-47D-30 "Thunderbolt" (a.k.a Jug)
P-51B North American Aviation P-51B "Mustang"
P-51D Mustang North American Aviation P-51D "Mustang"
Panzer IV Type H Panzerkampwagen IV Ausf H
SBD-5 Douglas SBD-5 "Dauntless"
Seafire IIC Vickers Supermarine Seafire F.Mk IIc
Spitfire Mk IA Vickers Supermarine Spitfire Mk Ia
Spitfire Mk IX Vickers Supermarine Spitfire F.Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV Vickers Supermarine Spitfire F.Mk XIV
Spitfire V Vickers Supermarine Spitfire Mk Vb
Ta 152H
TBM-3 General Motors TBM-3 "Avenger"
Tempest V Hawker Tempest Mk. V
Tiger I Panzerkampwagen VI Ausf E "Tiger I"
Typhoon Hawker Typhoon
Yak-9T Yakovlev Yak-9T
Yak-9U Yakovlev Yak-9U
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: hazed- on December 31, 2002, 11:29:12 AM
190 was called the butcher bird or Wurger (species of shrike)

spitfire IX i think got the nickname the Lady well at least Johnny johnson refered to it like that :)

wasnt the p40B the kittyhawk or something?


the ju88 ive never seen refered to as stuka. stuka was a derivative of sturzkamppfflugzeug(describes all dive bombers) and was used for the ju87.Schnellbomber was used however :)

me110 was the Zerstorer
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: salem on December 31, 2002, 11:57:40 AM
Quote
Originally posted by HanaG
OK, I wll call p-51 ''Katuobushi''
p-38 ''Mezashi''
B-17 ''Kuzzira'' etc etc...  ;)
These are IJN/IJ codenames.


Interesting...what are the english translations?

regards,
aircav
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: NOD2000 on December 31, 2002, 12:04:36 PM
B-26B Martin Maurader
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: whgates3 on December 31, 2002, 12:31:50 PM
U on the end  of the Yak-9U stands for "Uluchshennyi" - means improved
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: HanaG on December 31, 2002, 12:48:04 PM
Hiya,salem :)

Some IJA/IJN fighter pilots often give codename/nickname for US planes.
These codenames are ''kind of fish''.

forexample,
p-51 was called ''Katuobushi''.
Katuobushi is ''Smoked Bonito''
Its traditional Japanese@Preserved@food. It shape looks ''tear drop''style.

p-38 was called ''Mezashi'' or ''pero-hachi''.
Mezashi is traditional Japanese fish food also.
its mean ''a Skewer pierced through head of small Sardines.''
plz watch this pic.... http://www.rakuten.co.jp/btoc/img1015215805.jpeg
and, ''pero''is ''sound of easy eat'' in japanese.
''hachi''is ''eight''.
so,zero-fighter pilots called p-38''easy eat 8'' because they can shot them easyly.

heavy bomber with 4 engins called ''Kuzzira''.
Kuzzira is ''Whale''.

btw, u know Japanese movie monster''Gozzira''?
''Gozzira''mean King of animal of sea''Kuzzira'' and King of animal of gungle''Gorilla''. :D
 
sorry my poor English & transrations.
can u understand?;)

HanaG
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: Staga on December 31, 2002, 01:00:01 PM
FD Ski:
Reisen not Reizen, 110 Zerstörer, Stuka submodels were also known as Anton, Berta and Dora and russian nick was "Lapotnik".

In your list are also Hien/Tony, Schwalbe, ThunderJug, Val, Marauder/Baltimore potato/Flying Prostitute, Lavotschka, Dauntless/Barge/Clunk, Gorbatyi/Hunchback, Queen, Silber, SpamCan, Vomit Comet, Wooden Wonder.

mmkay, more hot coconut milk with Bacardi, Xánte and hot chokolate... :)
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: Karnak on December 31, 2002, 06:56:17 PM
Ki.67 = Mitsubishi Ki.67-I Hiryu "Peggy"
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: HanaG on January 01, 2003, 06:20:16 AM
Foreign peoples often call japanese warplane ''a6m2'', ''Ki-~~'',''n1k2'' etc etc.

but, these number are not faimous nameing in japan.
These are ''Factory/production codename''.

IJN factory/production codename rule.
1st word is ''kind of plane''.
2nd word is ''Production number''.
3rd word is ''factory name''.
4th~5th word is ''modefied number''.

for example, ''A6m5b''
A is ''carrier fighter''.
6 is ''6th plan''
m is ''Mitubish''
5 is ''5th modefied''
b is ''type of little modefied'' Kou is a, otsu is b, hei is c, tei is d, bo is e.

for example, ''N1k2-J''
N is Floated-fighter (sea fighter)
1 is ''1st plan''
k is ''kawanishi''
2 is ''2nd modefied''
J is ''fighter for ground landing''

But, These are Factory codenames.
We -and many pilots at ww2 era- call them ''Type zero model 52 'Otsu' '',
and ''Shisen model21'' or ''Shiden-kai''.
Its Army/Navy's formal names & nicknames.

I know many intersting thing about IJA/IJN planes.
but I can not talk English very well.  plz excuse me.
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: salem on January 02, 2003, 11:02:50 AM
LOL....fish :D

Thanks for the info HanaG. You english is better than my Japanese anyway. :)

cheers,
aircav
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: jonnyb on January 02, 2003, 12:50:50 PM
Hana's english is better than some who's native language is english.

Great job Hana, and thanks for the info.
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: hazed- on January 02, 2003, 01:57:23 PM
just read the allied code name for n1kj was "REX" :)
very unimaginative :D

also i just saw a reference to the IL2 being called 'The flying infrantryman' by the russian ground troops.not an official name but a cool one none the less :)
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: GScholz on January 03, 2003, 01:37:05 AM
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Originally posted by whgates3
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Originally posted by udet
Me 262 Sturmbird?
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ja, sturmbird is JaBo version, no? maybe you can call it sturmbird if you use it for strafing...
also i would like to note that 'dora' is the term for any 'D' model A/C, not just the 190...our 'stuka' is also a 'dora' & likewise 190A & Ju88A are both 'anton', etc


I think the name you guys are (repeatedly) stumbling over is “Sturmvogel”, seeing how “bird” isn’t a German word ;)
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: F4UDOA on January 03, 2003, 09:22:19 AM
HanaG,

That is great stuff. I understand perfectly. Do you have anymore of those code names?

F6F, F4U, P-47 etc.?

Sounds like the Japanese name for the P-51 was very similar to the american name which was the flying spam can, more preserved meat.
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: HanaG on January 04, 2003, 02:35:54 AM
Guys, thnx for reading my poor English.:)

F4UDOA,
WW2 era, many IJN/IJA pilots can understand/read English.
but, i think They called ''Gura-man (Grumman)'' for all ''blue carrier fighters''.  
F4F,F4U,F6F...
maybe, F6F is ''newtype Gra-man'', F4u is ''Gra-man with gal wings''

and japanese civirians (peoples) know these name ''Gura-man''.
My grandmother's sister said,
''american's 'Gra-man' tryed shoot me when I was student''.
so, U.S.''Gra-man'' plane factory is most popular name in WW2 era japan.  :)

###no probrem about her, the 'Gra-man' pilot was dweeb vulcher ;)
###she is living now.:D:D:D

btw, F6F nickname is ''Kuman-bachi''. means ''bear bee''(Bumble bee).
because these engines sound is very noisey like bee, I think.

B-24 nickname is ''Con-sori'' means these factory name.
sometimes B-24, B-25, B-26 are called all''con-sori''.
but, B17 is special.
its very dangaous bomber with many MGs. so, pilots know these name is ''model17 bomber''.  

p-39 nickname is ''Iwashi'' means 'a kind of fish'
''Iwashi'' is very poor & small & cheep fish.
Zero pilots could shot down them easyly like ''eat breckfast''  

I dont know p-47 nickname in japan WW2 era.
I will read more books about these intersting Info. :)  
thnx
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: davidpt40 on January 06, 2003, 08:55:28 PM
I believe the BF-109 "Emil" is incorrect.  The name 'emil' came around because people were calling the aircraft by its phonetic name.  E in German is 'emil', phonetically spoken.  

I do not know much about this, I am just going off an artical I read a year or so ago. It would take some research to find out the real name of the 109E.
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: F4UDOA on January 06, 2003, 09:53:59 PM
HanaG,

Thanks for the information. I like to get a different perspective on the Airwar. I think the Japanese perspective is lost sometimes.

I have read accounts of aircombat with Zero's (or unidentified A/C) at high speed with F4U's. I always thought the Zero was a little faster than it was given credit for based on these accounts.

Also I always read that the F4U was called the "Whistling Death" by Japanese pilots. Is this real or wartime fiction? It sounds a little contrived to me (Made up).

Thanks Again!!:)
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: Naso on January 07, 2003, 05:26:16 AM
C202 = Macchi (factory, phonetyc makki) MC (engeener= Mario Castaldi*) 202 "Folgore" ("lightning")

C205 = Macchi MC 205V "Veltro" "Veltro" it's a term used by Dante in "Divina Comedia" to name the man that had to save Italy from foes, who he really intended it's still in discussion :)

* = I am at work now, dont remember if it's Castaldi or Castoldi :o
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: MRPLUTO on January 07, 2003, 09:42:45 AM
Thank you HanaG--  very interesting!

La-5 was known by the diminutive form of the word Lavochkin, Lavochka

MRPLUTO  VMF-323  ~Death Rattlers~  MAG-33
Title: Name this, extrordinare !!!
Post by: MRPLUTO on January 07, 2003, 09:50:36 AM
BTW, HanaG     I would spell katuobushi   katsuobushi (pron:  ka-tsu-o-bu-shi) & spell whale kujira (ku-ji-ra) and Godzilla Gojira (go-ji-ra).

Thanks again for your posts...everything is very easy to understand.

MRPLUTO