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Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: MRPLUTO on December 26, 2002, 09:35:16 AM
Doing volunteer work for the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) here in Washington, DC I've met quite a few people over the years who have used marijuana medicinally.  Until the other day, I had used it only recreationally, but on December 23rd...

...I had double hernia surgery.  As I left the hospital, a nurse gave me some crackers and two percocets.  The crackers weren't really enough for my empty stomach, and by the time I got home I threw up...not a fun thing to do with 4 inches of stitches across one's belly!

I smoked a bit of my formerly "recreational" weed, and immediately felt better and went to sleep.  Four hours later, I got up to use the bathroom and immediately felt very ill again.  Right away I smoked two small bong hits and within one minute felt fine.  So fine, in fact, that I was able to eat something, take another percocet, and sleep well.

The goverment marijuana pill, "marinol", would have been worthless in this case:  I couldn't get anything to stay down, and even if I could, the pill would have taken much too long to have had any effect.  Smoking just a bit of marijuana provided effective and immediate relief.


The truth about marijuana:  The government is lying.


MRPLUTO
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Eagler on December 26, 2002, 09:49:08 AM
maybe you can be their poster child :)

hope you feel better soon
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Raubvogel on December 26, 2002, 09:51:16 AM
You mean it didn't make you want to shoot heroin? Come on now, we all know marijuana leads to harder drugs! I bet you went right out and smoked some crack and carjacked someone. :p
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Wlfgng on December 26, 2002, 09:58:11 AM
you didn't  get a hernia from holding in bong hits did ya ?
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: MRPLUTO on December 26, 2002, 11:02:00 AM
I can't LOL, without causing pain, but you're all very funny.

The marijuana did make me want to drink...some water.  If I ever feel like smoking crack, I think I'll just fly the Me-163 Komet instead.  On a nap-of-the-Earth (NOE) mission.:eek:

My dad had a hernia operation, so I think these hernias are genetic in origin.

MRPLUTO
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: poopster on December 26, 2002, 11:02:04 AM
My lady did 4 months of chemo 5 years ago. I does work, it takes the "edge" off. The anti nausia pills made her sick. Her chemo doctor recommended it if we could find it privately. Oh that's difficult :D

We're both children of the sixties so we were'nt exactly strangers to the "killer weed" ;)
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Wlfgng on December 26, 2002, 11:31:49 AM
(looking for the link to the 50's era movies on the dangers of weed).. damned if I can remember the title....
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: capt. apathy on December 26, 2002, 11:34:35 AM
reefer madness
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: hardcase on December 26, 2002, 11:42:26 AM
I am doing chemo for  6 cycles of 6 week each with 3 weeks between cycles. I will be doing this chemo for a total of 54 weeks. MJ makes this tolerable. It combats my continuous nausea and stimulates my appetite to the point that I have not lost a pound during this treatment. Percocets and MJ are getting me thru this. I would be lost without MJ.

HC
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Wlfgng on December 26, 2002, 11:44:34 AM
that's the one Capt.. lol
what a classic
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Tuomio on December 26, 2002, 12:35:52 PM
We need more research on medical marijuana. Untill then its only excuse for you to get high and it really doesent help you at all.  Its infact so harmful for you, that we have to put you in jail for 10 years..;)

MJ stimulating apetite, *pfft* yeah right! :rolleyes:
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Eagler on December 26, 2002, 01:23:06 PM
I hear it greatly improves your short term memory also :)
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 26, 2002, 02:31:58 PM
I was going to post a reply, but I forgot what this thread was about...
-SW
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: bigUC on December 26, 2002, 02:35:14 PM
U should try some morphine - even better ;)
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: paintmaw on December 26, 2002, 03:18:28 PM
think of all the dealers that would be out of work if the made it legal , and the police would have more time to eat dounuts and chase real criminals
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Wlfgng on December 26, 2002, 03:31:44 PM
except all the pot smokers would eat up all the donuts, causing the police to begin chasing them (illegally) and thus the cycle perpetrates itself...
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Saintaw on December 26, 2002, 03:36:18 PM
Tuo, always has helped my apetite. I haven't found a good Medical reason to advertise with tho ;)
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: lazs2 on December 27, 2002, 10:40:21 AM
Pot was the easiest drug for me to quit of all of em... I really didn't like the stuff... It makes ya wimpy.    I also got the oppossite effect you guys got and it seemed to make me more aware of the pain that I could ignore without it.   It did increase appetite but that has never been a problem with me.   I found that I couldn't function well on it.    

I see no problem with legalizing it but.... I want the same penalties as for drinking..  I don't want to share the roads with the potheads or work alongside em on a job that there is any possibility of accidents.
lazs
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: miko2d on December 27, 2002, 11:22:38 AM
I wish you guys to get better soon.

 miko
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: Innominate on December 27, 2002, 11:53:42 AM
mrpluto, You're with the terrorists!!!!! :rolleyes:
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: MRPLUTO on December 28, 2002, 10:13:33 AM
Yup...my true name is Pluto bin Laden. :p

Actually, I belong to a much more dangerous group:  free-thinkers, neither conservative nor liberal, spiritual but not religious, for whom hypocrisy & greed are among the worst personal traits one can have.  

Growing up & living just outside Washington, DC most of my life, I've had more than enough contact with our leaders.  I've found almost all of them (Democrats & Republicans) to be the kind of people Jesus spoke out against so powerfully:  self-righteous hypocrites in high places (i.e. the Pharisees).  The same people who condemn marijuana smokers as supporting terrorism encourage (and profit from) the sale of American tobacco products all over the world, killing millions.  Yet they see themselves as righteous, freedom-loving, and fair-minded.  They could not be more wrong.

*******

An excellent book:  "Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do" (The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in Our Free Country), by Peter McWilliams; Prelude Press.  Fun to read and very informative.  Should be required reading for every college freshman.

*******

Laz is right when he says we should have the same laws for pot & alcohol should be the same.  These penalties should be tougher, in my opinion.  Impaired driving, by any drug, or just being irresponsible and driving when exhausted, should be a much more serious crime than it is now.

Laz's comments are also interesting because they demonstrate that we are all different when it comes to how we will react to any particular drug.  For many, many people, marijuana is a safer, more enjoyable drug than alcohol.  Let's have some freedom of choice in the USA!  

By the way, when it comes to driving and using drugs I've heard of three studies:  two in the Netherlands and one in the US during the first Bush presidency.  All three concluded that drinking alcohol and driving was far more dangerous than smoking marijuana and driving.  Nevertheless, impaired drivers should not be tolerated.  Rights & responsibility are two sides of the same coin.

Enough of this rant for now.  I'll wait for some response to it.




MRPLUTO
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: X2Lee on December 28, 2002, 10:25:46 AM
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Originally posted by MRPLUTO
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By the way, when it comes to driving and using drugs I've heard of three studies:  two in the Netherlands and one in the US during the first Bush presidency.  All three concluded that drinking alcohol and driving was far more dangerous than smoking marijuana and driving

MRPLUTO


Im an excellent driver
Excellent.
Title: Successful Use of Medicinal Marijuana
Post by: lazs2 on December 28, 2002, 10:29:37 AM
pluto... I am a libertarian by nature... I have no problem with legalized drugs even tho I know it will have the same effect that putting out pidgeon feeders in the park would have...  I say legalize it and let the first wave of lemmings die and hope they don't kill me.

As to the studies... I would bet that if you took a person unused to pot and had him smoke half a joint of good weed that he wouldn't even be able to start the car..   conversely.... I drove dead drunk for years every day and never had a wreck... I still believe that I drove better drunk than some did sober but... If I were to get drunk now... after a 16 year absence... I would probly crash before I traveled a block... There simply needs to be stiff penalties for operating dangerous equipment while intoxicated with no exceptions.   I would say that a second offence of intoxicated driving (in say a 5 year period) should be considered attempted murder.  
lazs